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Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:57 AM

Michael Gove announces surprise bid for Tory leadership - Brexit live

Michael Gove announces surprise bid for Tory leadership - Brexit live

Last I heard he was offering Boris his support in exchange for the right job.

Rats in a sack.

This is Gove's statement:

The British people voted for change last Thursday. They sent us a clear instruction that they want Britain to leave the European Union and end the supremacy of EU law. They told us to restore democratic control of immigration policy and to spend their money on national priorities such as health, education and science instead of giving it to Brussels. They rejected politics as usual and government as usual. They want and need a new approach to running this country.

There are huge challenges ahead for this country but also huge opportunities. We can make this country stronger and fairer. We have a unique chance to heal divisions, give everyone a stake in the future and set an example as the most creative, innovative and progressive country in the world.

If we are to make the most of the opportunities ahead we need a bold break with the past.

I have repeatedly said that I do not want to be Prime Minister. That has always been my view. But events since last Thursday have weighed heavily with me.

I respect and admire all the candidates running for the leadership. In particular, I wanted to help build a team behind Boris Johnson so that a politician who argued for leaving the European Union could lead us to a better future.

But I have come, reluctantly, to the conclusion that Boris cannot provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead.

I have, therefore, decided to put my name forward for the leadership. I want there to be an open and positive debate about the path the country will now take. Whatever the verdict of that debate I will respect it. In the next few days I will lay out my plan for the United Kingdom which I hope can provide unity and change.


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/30/brexit-live-theresa-may-and-boris-johnson-set-to-announce-leadership-bids

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Reply Michael Gove announces surprise bid for Tory leadership - Brexit live (Original post)
TubbersUK Jun 2016 OP
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #1
TubbersUK Jun 2016 #2
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #4
TubbersUK Jun 2016 #5
RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #17
LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #3
Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #6
Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #7
TubbersUK Jun 2016 #8
LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #14
Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #15
Ironing Man Jun 2016 #9
Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #10
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #11
Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #12
LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #13
Dworkin Jun 2016 #16
T_i_B Jun 2016 #18
T_i_B Jul 2016 #19
LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #20

Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:19 AM

1. Which makes his wife's email even more interesting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1088&pid=10729

He screwed his courage to the sticking plate. Or he's taken the Francis Urquhart route, if you prefer (Frank Underwood if you prefer 21st century drama to 20th century).

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:28 AM

2. Could be, although this comment on the Guardian blog caught my eye:

"Gove is just trying to split May's vote: all the pro-Brexit but anti-Boris votes will go to him rather than May, leaving the way clear for Boris to take the leadership. Without him doing this May could win."

A sort of double-bluff theory.

Interesting times.

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Response to TubbersUK (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:46 AM

4. What was interesting in that email was that Vine said Murdoch and Paul Dacre don't support Boris

Both think he's unsuitable as PM (Dacre is the editor-in-chief of the Mail newspapers, and thus very influential with Tory readers, for any Americans). That will encourage others to stand (currently Crabb, Fox, Gove, Leadsom and May).

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:52 AM

5. Good point

Also, some evidence from the political pundits that Gove has genuinely betrayed Boris:

Tom Newton Dunn ✔ @tnewtondunn
A text arrives from a senior Team Boris figure: "Gove is a c*** who set this up form start". This is going to be bloody.
9:38 AM - 30 Jun 2016
564 564 Retweets 257 257 likes

ETA:

Tim Bouverie ✔ @TimPBouverie
There is "a stampede away from Boris to Gove" - Tory MP.
10:54 AM - 30 Jun 2016

Nadine Dorries ✔ @NadineDorriesMP
Gove didn't get the big job Mrs Vine wanted for him - Boris doesn't do bribes
10:56 AM - 30 Jun 2016
10 10 Retweets 8 8 likes

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:24 AM

17. I was wondering what the motivation behind this leak was

didn't expect to find out so quickly.

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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:39 AM

3. Ugh

Gove as Prime Minister??? Something out of a horror movie.

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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:01 AM

6. Well, that's one way to lose the next election.

 

Gove doesn't inspire voter enthousiasm. He'd be the Tory equivalent of Gordon Brown: well connected and respected in significant parts of the party, but when all is said and done: a place-holder - and the UK voters have never retained a place-holder, with the possible exception of John Major.

Roseberry - b-bey in 1892
Douglas Home - voted out in '64
Calahan - voted out in '79
Major - only retained in '92 as - by general consensus - Kinnock managed to squander his advantage by excessive chest-thumping only days before the election.
Brown - voted out in 2010

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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:07 AM

7. Maybe Sarah Vine's prodding him into backroom deal didn't work out!

Gove has more baggage than Heathrow.

He's obviously not alone in that, but although we may consider him a rightwing horror (which he undoubtedly is), he's also got tendencies to be what in the Thatcher days they used to call a "Wet". See his recent record in office:

After the 2015 general election, Prime Minister David Cameron promoted Gove as Lord Chancellor and Justice Secretary in his newly formed Cabinet.[89] He was praised in December 2015 for scrapping the courts fee introduced by his predecessor, Chris Grayling.[90] The fee had been heavily criticised for, among other things, causing innocent people to plead guilty out of financial concerns.[91] Gove also removed the 12-book limit on prison books introduced by Grayling, arguing that books increased literacy and numeracy, skills needed for making prisoners a "potential asset to society."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gove#Secretary_of_State_for_Justice


So they could end up with the worst of all worlds - a rival to Boris (also under suspicion for relative liberalism on some social issues, inasmuch as he's consistent on anything) who fronted the Leave campaign with no Plan A if they won, isn't sufficiently rabid on certain issues to satisfy the right (though that could obviously change for expediency), pretty incompetent in the roles he's held (not necessarily a bar), and utterly unappealing to disaffected voters who've defected to UKIP, let alone likely a high proportion of the electorate.

Last I saw, though it's very early days yet, May was streets ahead of the declared field.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:16 AM

8. Am i reading that Boris has just pulled out? n/t

Boris Johnson says he will not run for Tory party leadership after Gove challenge – live


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/30/brexit-live-theresa-may-and-boris-johnson-set-to-announce-leadership-bids

ETA: Sorry posted this in the wrong place in the excitement of the moment.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:09 AM

14. Admittedly after years turning schools into prisons, he's shown a surprising inclination to try

turning prisons into schools.

But he is a neocon, an authoritarian fanatic on education who would've made Chris Woodhead look moderate, an incompetent, and his 'people skills' mainly take the form of uniting almost everyone against him! Plus, he and his wife have far too many links with the RW media.

What a situation we're in, where Theresa May looks like she might be the lesser of the evils!!!

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:13 AM

15. No argument,

and snappy opening line, BTW!

But on the Tory scale, I do reckon they'd consider him a "Wet".

May does at least have some sort of air of seriousness and competence, but then (Godwin Klaxon) so did Hitler!*


* Cheap shot. I'll delete if that crosses somebody's line in the current indeterminate UK Group climate.

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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:19 AM

9. Boris Johnson pulls out...

Johnson has pulled out of the contest - Gove stuck the knife in, and Gove was the intellectual/policy force behind Boris's throne...

the money appears to be a complex mix - many of the Johnsons supporters were brought by Gove and will, theoretically, fall back to Gove, but others are now so agery with Gove that they will go for May instead.

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Response to Ironing Man (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:30 AM

10. I'll get ahead of Private Eye and say,

"For the first time in his life!"

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:41 AM

11. Excellent!

Wow, I didn't see this coming ... (set up for another joke ...)

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 06:47 AM

12. It writes itself! n/t

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:04 AM

13. Thanks for a much-needed giggle!

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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:26 AM

16. No surprises

Hi,

No surprise to me. Cameron didn't want it, Boris never wanted it and Gove wanted it all along. Gove played a Paul Ryan with the coy denials, but IMHO this mess was always going to go all the way down to his level. Theresa May? Well she didn't do much of a job on the borders and immigration, so incompetence would make her the best choice for me.

However, second guessing a Tory leadership battle is just about the least pleasant way I could be spending my day, except for watching Corbyn's agonies of course.

D.





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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:46 AM

18. Theresa May appears the least worst of an awful bunch

Michael Gove is IMHO worse than Boris. One of the very worst sort of politician, namely the sort who have no understanding of the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it". And what's even worse is that I can see him winning it as the Tory grassroots, judging by what I see locally are in no mood for sanity or moderation.

Andrea Leadsom comes across as being absolutely terrible, similar story with Liam Fox and as I said yesterday, Crabbe comes across as an over ambitious oportunist.

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Response to TubbersUK (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 03:13 AM

19. House of Commons cafeteria runs out of knives

http://newsthump.com/2016/07/01/house-of-commons-cafeteria-runs-out-of-knives/

The House of Commons cafeteria has asked MPs if they’d mind returning the knives they currently have sticking out of their backs, as they’ve run out.

Saying there’s been ‘a bit of a rush’, catering workers are currently scouring the Houses of Parliament looking for MPs bodies from which they can retrieve their cutlery.

The carnage started yesterday when Michael Gove used a roughly-sharpened prison shiv to do over Boris Johnson, leading to a cascade of defenestrations and stabbings as the floodgates of years of pent up frustrations spilled out into open warfare. Michael Gove himself is understood to be currently desperately fending off a steak-knife-wielding Theresa May with a sandwich platter in the Pugin bar.

Meanwhile, heating engineers at the House have asked if Jeremy Corbyn would mind returning the boiler plate he’s currently got stuffed down the back of his jacket as it’s playing gyp with the thermostat.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 03:27 AM

20. Says it all!

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