Chilcot is out, and ALL those who tried to prevent the war have been proven right.

[Ken Burch]

Robin Cook, Stop The War, Tony Benn, Charles Kennedy, Jeremy(then AND now), and the hundreds of thousands who stood with them in the face of derision and slander from the leadership of Labour AND the Tories.

Blair and the remnants of his cult left in disgrace and oblivion.

All remaining MPs who backed the war need to do the decent thing and resign.

The dead and their families are owed a massive apology.

[Denzil_DC]

1. Add Charles kennedy to that list.

I miss him.

[Ken Burch]

2. Thank you. I just did.

The saddest result of the 2015 election was Kennedy's defeat and his tragic death from despair soon after.

[Denzil_DC]

3. Sadly, I think it was the drink that really did it,

but he was treated shamefully in his later years. I won't forget his intelligent contributions at the time.

[Ken Burch]

4. I think it was the loss of his seat that drove him to that.

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A broken heart can do that to a person.

[Denzil_DC]

5. Who knows?

It's the least aspect of his life we should be focusing on now, IMO.

[Ken Burch]

6. Indeed, which is why I tried not to mention it when I referenced his passing.

Perhaps this will give his spirit some small comfort, wherever it is now.

[LeftishBrit]

9. I don't think so; he'd been drinking long before that

I think he was horribly treated for a long time, not least by his own party, and who knows to what extent it might have made the problem worse. But most politicians, who suffer from political reverses and lose elections, do not die as a result - look at your Jimmy Carter, still alive and active in his 90s.

This I know, even when drunk he was more perceptive than Clegg sober.

[T_i_B]

15. At least he could organise a piss up in a brewery

Which is more than can be said for Tories and Labour at present.

[T_i_B]

14. So do I

Probably the best British politician there's been during my adult life.

[Denzil_DC]

16. Leftishbrit above said something similar

to what I've said many a time in the privacy of my own home: "I'd take Charlie Kennedy pissed over any number of the bastards sober."

It was a disease for him. Very sad, but not something to be ashamed of in his memory.

[peace13]

7. That would be an awesome feeling...to be proven right.

But not better than the feeling of avoiding the war altogether. What a mess Blair, * and all who voted for war made. Death, disease, destruction and refugees. ....surprise.

[Ken Burch]

8. Thanks for the perspective.

It's not just about being proven right...it's about making sure the politicians take the lesson.

[Denzil_DC]

10. Dateline: 7 April 2002

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1915705.stm

[steve2470]

11. prophetic indeed nt

[LeftishBrit]

12. He was right on that

[LeftishBrit]

13. And let us not forget the children, wiser than their elders, who were among the first rebels

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/2867923.stm

Including many local to me in Oxford. My local heroes, at a time when there were few heroes, and all seemed to be falling apart.