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Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
1. Over 32 large financial services companies have already begun moving to EU countries
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:30 AM
Dec 2017

Brexit will continue to be an unfolding disaster for the Brits.

Vlad Putin has been astonishingly effective at tearing apart the US and England.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
5. Okay, I'll bite. Please name some of them.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:32 AM
Dec 2017

What exactly can the UK do after Brexit that they couldn't do while member of the EU?

They can protect their borders? They could before: The UK was not part of the Schengen open-borders-agreement.

They can make their own diplomatic decisions? They could before.



Please don't fall for that "Down with the EU"-crap russian internet-trolls are peddling.

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
6. I also would have voted remain if in the UK, but more than half did not
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:00 PM
Dec 2017

How do you explain that? It can't be simply that they were all trolled into doing it.

LeftishBrit

(41,202 posts)
9. Propagandized, not trolled
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:05 PM
Dec 2017

Few of us here had that much knowledge about the EU; and the media is relentlessly anti.

In the past, I fell for some of it myself. The Blair-Bush collaboration, and the far more reasonable views of most EU countries about Iraq, turned me into a Remainer long before the referendum; and I have learned a lot more since about all the benefits that the EU has had for the economy.

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
12. The UK always had a very effective balance of power strategy in Europe.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:53 PM
Dec 2017

Sometimes favoring the French, sometimes the German states, or others, depending on who was weaker.

LeftishBrit

(41,202 posts)
8. The burgundy passport never stopped us from having a national identity
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 08:02 PM
Dec 2017

Brexit could make us poorer and more dependent on Trump.

Personally I don't care what colour my passport is, so long as it's recognized wherever I need to go.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
7. The Little Englanders are overjoyed by this
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 02:02 PM
Dec 2017

On a British forum, they're delirious - "important victory", "battle" ,"war", "one in the eye for Juncker and his unelected cronies", "potent symbol" ... it takes so little to please their parochial outlook. They really seem to think they'll be able to wave around a passport and, thanks to the blue colour, they'll get some form of special treatment they've been denied since 1988.

T_i_B

(14,735 posts)
11. Oh we'll get special treatment alright
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:33 AM
Dec 2017

We'll get a much much worse time of things when we travel abroad, and very likely at greater cost to boot.

This is pure gesture politics from the government.

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
13. Blue passports could have been re-introduced without Brexit, Government admits
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 10:10 PM
Dec 2017
...

Theresa May described the decision to revert to the “iconic” colour as an “expression of our independence and sovereignty” away from the EU.

But the Home Office confirmed that the UK voluntarily adopted common passport criteria from the European Economic Community (EEC) and was not obliged to keep it.

The guidance states that the cover of member states’ passports should be “burgundy red” and stipulated features including the number of pages and information that must be included.

...

A Government source told The Independent the agreement was not legally binding and that redesigns have been considered around every five years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/blue-passports-brexit-colour-change-leave-eu-withdrawal-european-union-countries-travel-a8124526.html


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