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Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:12 AM

Boris Johnson threatens to SACK Tory Remainer MPs who vote to block No Deal as plot to scupper...

...Brexit intensifies

Boris Johnson is threatening to sack rebel Tory MPs who vote to block a No Deal exit from the European Union, it has been claimed.

The Prime Minister is set to prevent Remainer MPs within his party from standing at the next general election should they try to prevent a No Deal next week.


[link:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7413615/Boris-Johnson-threatens-SACK-Tory-Remainer-MPs-vote-block-No-Deal.html|]

Seriously? Democracy destroyer. When you think things can't go any further - they do...
How quickly will he start rounding them up and putting them in camps if they don't vote his way? So very 1933
I really hope there are enough Tories who are outraged by this that they fuck him over on a vote of no confidence... otherwise...



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Reply Boris Johnson threatens to SACK Tory Remainer MPs who vote to block No Deal as plot to scupper... (Original post)
Soph0571 Aug 2019 OP
Celerity Aug 2019 #1
Soph0571 Aug 2019 #12
Celerity Aug 2019 #14
Mike 03 Aug 2019 #2
OnDoutside Aug 2019 #3
Ghost Dog Aug 2019 #4
OnDoutside Aug 2019 #6
sharedvalues Aug 2019 #18
paleotn Aug 2019 #20
Denzil_DC Aug 2019 #21
sharedvalues Aug 2019 #24
OnDoutside Aug 2019 #22
hlthe2b Aug 2019 #5
True Blue American Aug 2019 #7
CottonBear Aug 2019 #8
True Blue American Aug 2019 #9
CottonBear Aug 2019 #10
True Blue American Aug 2019 #11
CottonBear Aug 2019 #15
Grokenstein Aug 2019 #13
Gumboot Aug 2019 #16
Mike 03 Aug 2019 #17
Soph0571 Aug 2019 #19
LeftishBrit Aug 2019 #23

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:27 AM

1. every time I see your Brexit GIF, it is how I feel



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Response to Celerity (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:51 AM

12. Soz...But...



I think at the point my Brexit Gif is not enough!!!

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Response to Soph0571 (Reply #12)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:57 AM

14. +10000

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:28 AM

2. What's going on the UK right now is one of the most important

stories. I hope the citizens and the MPs can avert this disaster of Boris Johnson. Never in world history have we more needed responsible leadership in our European friends, since we have such a horrid vacuum here. I'm hoping there's a live stream of the protests today.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:39 AM

3. Lol ! If he does that and they stand as independent conservatives,

the vote will be split, resulting in potential losses for Johnson. And he knows it. He's either bluffing or mindlessly stupid. Could be both.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:51 AM

4. Either way the Tory & Unionist party splits, by the looks of it.

Elitist-populist-rightists on the one hand, competing for outright xenophobic-nationalist-fascist votes; elitist-conservative-center-rightists on the other, competing for more liberal-centrist votes.

The center- and further-left also find themselves, but this is normal, somewhat in disarray...

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:02 AM

6. Yes there's going to be a realignment in UK politics, just like the GOP in the US.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:25 AM

18. "Brexit Party" beat the Tories in recent Euro elections

The Brexit/Tory split is already well along.
Johnson should know this.

What I don’t understand: what do Johnson and Rees-Mogg and Murdoch and the Barclays get out of Brexit??

In the US it’s clear to me what Trump and the Koches and Adelson and Murdoch get out of Republican plutocracy: tax cuts and deregulation. And the immigration stuff is just a way to get votes for that agenda.

But how does Brexit itself help UK Tory billionaires? Or is it just a way to get votes for reactionary oligarchs? (If so, then you’d think it doesn’t actually need to happen, just always be on the horizon.)

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:20 AM

20. Good question. It's not as obvious for the Brits.

Probably the same reasons as the Americans, since oligarchs love money more than anything else. The conspiratorial side of my brain thinks this is one more step in the rise of the Putin lead global oligarchy and the death of liberal democracy as we know it. The rational side says they're not that smart or organized. Rich people scrounging around to get richer just looks like a conspiracy. But the end result may be the same. An accidental global oligarchy with a thin democratic facade.

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:04 AM

21. It's more involved than a simple split.

There was large-scale UKIP/Brexit Party entryism into the Tory Party before Johnson's election. How loyal those entryists will be to the Tories in an upcoming general election remains to be seen.

As for how Brexit helps billionaires, any large-scale economic upheaval presents opportunities for those on the money markets to profit, e.g. by shorting sterling. And in the aftermath, the country will be ripe pickings for deregulation and other measures that will profit the wealthy. Rees-Mogg et al. have the bulk of their wealth salted away abroad, so they'll be safe.

It's not dissimilar to the situation in the USA, and indeed, many of the same US actors have been supporting Brexit (DU tends to overboard by pointing at Putin every time the UK has a setback, but the links to US capitalists and libertarians/freemarketers are well documented, and have been for years).

There's also the issue of EU laws governing money laundering, tax havens etc. Under May, these regulations were supposed to be retained in UK law, but all bets are off now.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #21)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:11 PM

24. Yes UK-US oligarch class a much bigger problem than Putin

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:39 PM

22. Money. Many are betting the collapse of the Pound if they go out on a no deal.

They can then get back in with the money they've already stored in safer currencies.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:52 AM

5. JHC! UK, it is time to stand up to this abolishment of any sense of democracy.

What is most painful in the US, is that an absolute idiotic clown is driving our downfall. With Boris, the same is true of the UK, IMO.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:37 AM

8. Former UK PM John Major joins legal action to block Boris Johnson suspending parliament




Brexit | Former UK PM John Major joins legal action to block Boris Johnson suspending parliament


https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/brexit-former-uk-pm-john-major-joins-legal-action-to-block-boris-johnson-suspending-parliament/article29300845.ece

Former British Prime Minister John Major has asked to join legal action to try to block current Prime Minister Boris Johnson from suspending parliament before Brexit.

Mr. Major, prime minister from 1990 to 1997, said he would join anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller in pursuing a judicial review of the order to close parliament from mid September to mid October.

“In view of the imminence of the prorogation and to avoid duplication of effort, and taking up the Courts time through repetition I intend to seek the Court's permission to intervene in the claim already initiated by Gina Miller, rather than to commence separate proceedings,” Major said.

“If granted permission to intervene, I intend to seek to assist the court from the perspective of having served in government as a minister and prime minister,” he said in a statement.


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Response to CottonBear (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:41 AM

9. Thanks, I see my Y!:)

They are also discussing locking themselves in the Parliament so Boris can not lock them out.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:46 AM

10. They'll have to pursue all strategies simultaneously in order to defeat Boris.

David Cameron is to blame for this whole Brexit disaster. He called for a leave/remain referendum vote and then resigned from office in order to avoid being caught up in the coming disaster that he helped to bring about.

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Response to CottonBear (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:50 AM

11. From those I post with

From Britain voters have been sorry ever since they voted, actually want another vote.

They despise Boris.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:59 AM

15. I'm a US citizen with British friends and relatives.

My British (born in England) friend, who lives here in the US and in Northern Ireland, is a Oxford educated college professor, who thinks that there is virtually no way out of a no-deal Brexit crash out. However, I’ve not spoken with him in the last three weeks. I value his opinion and am interested in his thoughts on this final, desperate parliamentary showdown.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:54 AM

13. "Go ahead, try and stop us."

"Go ahead, try and stop us."
(they try to stop him)
"Oh, I'll sack your asses for that! Oh! Oh!"

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:00 AM

16. Boris is gonna find himself locked in the Tower...

... for his treasonous coup, after all this is over.

Hoping those old Tory moderates John Major and Ken Clarke can help to right the ship and restore British democracy.

Dark times I never thought I'd see in my lifetime.


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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:08 AM

17. Sign at the Stop The Coup rally

Someone is holding up a sign that simply reads ARSE in blood-red letters.

EDIT: Another: "Stop fucking with out democracy you twat" (Hope it's okay to post that--that IS the sign)

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:43 AM

19. Heh. This one says it all..

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:54 PM

23. Sheer madness.

Makes me think of how the liberal and moderate Republicans were driven out of the party in America, and in the end they got Trump!

The one good thing about it is that it might cause them to lose seats! At present, the government has a majority of 1, and that's with the DUP.

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