Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:55 AM Nov 2019

Johnson Threatening To Review Channel 4's Licence After Replacing Him With Ice Sculpture in Debate

Boris Johnson Is Threatening To Review Channel 4's Broadcasting Licence After They Replaced Him With An Ice Sculpture At Thursday's Debate

A Conservative source told BuzzFeed News that if they win the coming election they will reassess the channel’s public service broadcasting licence.
...
In a dramatic escalation of the war of words between the Tories and Channel 4 that will likely provoke outcry, a Conservative source told BuzzFeed News that if they win the coming election they will reassess the channel’s public service broadcasting licence.

“If we are re-elected we will have to review Channel 4’s Public Services Broadcasting obligations,” the source said.

“Broadcasting organisations are rightly held to a higher standard — and particularly Channel 4 which has a special role enshrined in legislation. Any review would of course look at whether its remit should be better focused so it is serving the public in the best way possible.”

The inflammatory move came after Channel 4 said it would empty-chair the prime minister and Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage at its climate change leaders’ debate, after the two leaders declined to take part.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/boris-johnson-is-threatening-to-review-channel-4s


Johnson didn't turn up, claiming a "diary clash". Gove visited the debate venue asking to be included, but the other party leaders said that was unacceptable because he wasn't a party leader. There followed the worst sort of gaslighting as Gove claimed repeatedly that the Tories had been "excluded" from the debate.



Michael Gove
@michaelgove

Tonight I went to Channel 4 to talk about climate change but Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon refused to debate a Conservative #climatedebate

[Twitter video]

So if the courts displease this government in waiting, their role will be curtailed. If devolved administrations prove too awkward, their powers will be stripped, and if a broadcaster doesn't do their bidding, then it faces the chop.

I think there's a word for this style of government, but I can't quite place it.
15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Johnson Threatening To Review Channel 4's Licence After Replacing Him With Ice Sculpture in Debate (Original Post) Denzil_DC Nov 2019 OP
Yikes, it looks like the UK is dealing with some of this dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
Oh yeah. Boorish Boris is The Trump of Britain Grokenstein Nov 2019 #5
Better.😉 dewsgirl Nov 2019 #6
Sounds suspiciously like Scarsdale Nov 2019 #2
Well, there's only one remedy for that. calimary Nov 2019 #3
Also, we have to make sure the Scarsdale Nov 2019 #4
Fortunately UK doesn't have a machine problem. mwooldri Nov 2019 #7
Apparently there might be a postal vote problem. Ghost Dog Nov 2019 #8
" Postal votes handled end-to-end by a private corporation"? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2019 #9
What? I:m here in Spain, hearing what I hear, Ghost Dog Nov 2019 #10
I'm trying to work out "what you hear" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2019 #11
I'll research further. Here in Spain, Correos is still a nationalised Ghost Dog Nov 2019 #12
No, I'm not saying there's no way it can happen muriel_volestrangler Nov 2019 #13
Let's just try to make sure the vote's clean, OK? Ghost Dog Nov 2019 #14
Just proves their point, doesn't it? LeftishBrit Dec 2019 #15

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
5. Oh yeah. Boorish Boris is The Trump of Britain
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:42 AM
Nov 2019

The big difference is that when Boris runs up to people in the street yammering about how awesome he is, they tear him a new one--on camera, to his face.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
2. Sounds suspiciously like
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:38 AM
Nov 2019

Trumpism to me. Our orange mistake does the same thing. Not just with broadcasters but people, especially politicians on the "other side". A soon as he is installed (again) as president, he will declare himself "President for Life" and the USA as we know it will no longer exist. We will be led into the jaws of HELL by a raving lunatic.

calimary

(81,085 posts)
3. Well, there's only one remedy for that.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:58 AM
Nov 2019

We have to get EVERYBODY out to vote.

And I do mean EVERYBODY.

NO excuses.

NO “I was too busy.”

NO “I forgot.”

NO “I couldn’t get out.”

NO “I didn’t know where to my voting place was.”

NO “I didn’t have time.”

NO “It won’t make any difference.”

NO “what’s the point? We’re screwed anyway.”

NO “He/She just doesn’t excite me.”

NO “I didn’t get the candidate I wanted, so fuck it.”

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

You HAVE TO vote. There is NO choice, NO option. NO alternative. And NO excuse. NONE.

And there is NOTHING that is more important next November. I don’t care what else may be going on that day. It’s not as important as getting the fuck OFF one’s ass and finding some way to get to the polls and vote.

Unless, of course, you’re somehow okay with what’s gone on since January 2017, or can otherwise rationalize letting your country down - as in down the fucking drain!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
4. Also, we have to make sure the
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:23 AM
Nov 2019

machines are not tampered with, since Moscow Mitch REFUSES to pass a law making them secure. Someone in Kentucky needs to visit every town and holler in the state, spreading the word about this traitor.

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
7. Fortunately UK doesn't have a machine problem.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:47 AM
Nov 2019

Paper ballots counted by hand. But on both sides of the Atlantic the "conservatives" need to be voted out. In the UK severe tactical voting is required - yeah hold ones nose and vote for a party one does not normally support. In those constituencies where a dog with a blue rosette pinned to it would win in a landslide find that wedge issue (Brexit leave vs remain) to get normal Tory voters to switch to the other side or at worst not vote at all. In the US with a two party system it's easier - get out the Democratic vote, and do it in overwhelming numbers to offset gerrymandering and false machine vote tallys.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
8. Apparently there might be a postal vote problem.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
Nov 2019

Postal votes handled end-to-end by a private corporation, few checks?

Elsewhere in the EU we all have I. D. cards/numbers, locally-controlled (thanks, French Revolution!).

Sure, cheating (such as getting struck-off the local electoral roll) still happens, but less-so. And it's traceable.

In the end, ojo, who counts the votes?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
9. " Postal votes handled end-to-end by a private corporation"?
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:10 PM
Nov 2019

I'm not sure where that comes from. It appears to me that postal votes are sent to the local Returning Officer.

Or are you just saying "Royal Mail is now a private corporation"? Well, yes, but if you think Royal Mail has a large scale operation to divert the mail, then you're saying "never send anything by post". So vote in person.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
10. What? I:m here in Spain, hearing what I hear,
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:39 PM
Nov 2019

with no vote... ¡Please forgive me.

"Royal `Mail" counts the votes?

You joke. Who?

Ah. "'' 'returning officers". Who?

How do they know I'm not allowed to vote?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
11. I'm trying to work out "what you hear"
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:50 AM
Nov 2019

You said "Apparently there might be a postal vote problem.

Postal votes handled end-to-end by a private corporation, few checks?"

I'm trying to work out what that meant. "Returning Officers" are the public officials who organise elections. They are who postal votes are sent back to, and whose offices will count them - see eg https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/2019-11/UKPE%20Part%20D-Absent%20voting.pdf . So they can't be the "private corporation" you're talking about.

I guessed that perhaps the "private corporation" that is worrying you is Royal Mail. No, they don't count the votes, but they were the only private corporation I could think of that is involved in getting a postal vote from a voter to the count. But it now appears that's not what you meant.

So what "private corporation" handling votes are you talking about? Where did you hear about this? I looked, and couldn't find anything about postal votes being processed differently from before.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
12. I'll research further. Here in Spain, Correos is still a nationalised
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:31 AM
Nov 2019

State-run operation, unlike UK-mail. Are you saying there's no way postal ballot-stuffing could be going on in UK elections, where nobody has an I. D. number?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,262 posts)
13. No, I'm not saying there's no way it can happen
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:02 PM
Nov 2019

but I don't think a "private corporation" is the problem - and as far as I can tell, neither do you, actually. What an ID check would help prevent is registering made-up people at an address, which can be done by individuals who have access to that address.

Looking at the current process for registering the first time, they ask for your National Insurance number, but say it is still possible to register without one (maybe they do extra checks in that case?).

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
14. Let's just try to make sure the vote's clean, OK?
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:30 PM
Nov 2019

... To be honest, had I not declared myself, back in the day, to UK authorities as being an emigrant, I could still be pretending, as many do, to be UK domiciled..

LeftishBrit

(41,202 posts)
15. Just proves their point, doesn't it?
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:04 PM
Dec 2019

He is indeed a snowflake!

And government-controlled media is a dangerous thing.

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»United Kingdom»Johnson Threatening To Re...