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Charles to be King?! (Original Post) Jeneral2885 Jan 2014 OP
I would rather William as King of England yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #1
"A major of Americans" think this is an absurdity BlueStreak Jan 2014 #2
Perhaps, but its the United Kingdoms absurdity Historic NY Jan 2014 #3
That's my point BlueStreak Jan 2014 #5
So what? Not our bloody business. aquart Jan 2014 #4
Calls for him to be 'bypassed' were never realistic muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #6
Would you go for a French-style Republic? Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #9
I think the Irish seem to have done best muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #11
I agree. LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #12
Nice one. Thank you both. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #14
Scrap the monarchy Anarcho-Socialist Jan 2014 #7
He wouldn't be bypassed. Abdication would then Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #8
well, that's what monarchy's for, isn't it? MisterP Jan 2014 #10
how much money will be saved Jeneral2885 Jan 2014 #13
This appears to be a case of the media making mountains out of mole skins. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #15
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. I would rather William as King of England
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jan 2014

However, we are going to be stuck with Charles and that "lady" as Queen. England will not skip over anyone. Don't worry, William will be King someday. I know majority of Americans would rather England change their rules, but that won't happen. Hopefully the Queen will stay in place for awhile and perhaps Charles will become King around 72 years old.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
2. "A major of Americans" think this is an absurdity
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jan 2014

An anachronism that should have disappeared 300 years ago.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
3. Perhaps, but its the United Kingdoms absurdity
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jan 2014

and they seem to cherish it. With that our opinion doesn't count..."say what".

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. That's my point
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jan 2014

The OP said the majority of Americans wish the riles would change. I say the majority of Americans think the who think is rather pointless and silly.

We did fight a revolution to get away from that, after all.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
6. Calls for him to be 'bypassed' were never realistic
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014

There's no point in saying "we have a monarch because of tradition" and then throwing a thousand years of tradition in the bin, and doing something unprecedented like skipping over the heir to the throne because some people think his son is a nicer person. The nearest equivalent I can think of since 1066 is when Matilda was rejected in favour of her cousin Stephen and then son Henry II. And that was because she was a woman. "Let's go back 9 centuries" is hardly a call people can rally around. And even then, we had to have a civil war about it (like the Wars of the Roses, or the deposition of James II). If people are calling for a civil war to prevent Charles ascending the throne, I'd rather go the whole hog and form a Republic. I can think of many people I'd rather have as head of state than William or Charles.

The monarch isn't there to be liked. It's to tell us that the country has rules that we're not allowed to change.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
9. Would you go for a French-style Republic?
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jan 2014

ie. with an all-but plenipotentiary President?

Or for more of an Italian, say, model, where the President merely attempts to maintain some kind of order?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
11. I think the Irish seem to have done best
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jan 2014

a president elected by the people, but who is relatively above partisan politics.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
12. I agree.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

I think the separation of the ceremonial head-of-state role from the political leader role is a good thing; but it doesn't follow that either needs to be hereditary!

As it happens, Lizzie Windsor has been IMO a rather good (if decidedly overpaid) figurehead president; but that doesn't mean that her descendants should have an automatic right to it.

The Irish system does seem to work reasonably well.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
14. Nice one. Thank you both.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jan 2014

You're both basically happy with the current parliamentary system, then, with a figurehead institutional placeholder in the Monarch/Presidential position, but we'd prefer one elected by and representing the People in general rather than the ('old school') 'Establishment' as at present?

Anarcho-Socialist

(9,601 posts)
7. Scrap the monarchy
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jan 2014

Give the Windsors the same chance to stand for the presidency in the British Republic just like everyone else.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
8. He wouldn't be bypassed. Abdication would then
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jan 2014

be his way to hand over to his son, were they to so wish.

... And assuming the institution somehow survives the coming turmoil...

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. well, that's what monarchy's for, isn't it?
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jan 2014

on a seriouser note, Britpickers do note that it offers "separation of politics and patriotism"

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