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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:48 AM

Dean on a 2016 run: 'Probably not, but we'll see'

Former gov. says he isn't ruling anything out
Published 7:51 PM EST Jan 10, 2013

MONTPELIER, Vt. óWill Howard Dean make another run for the presidency in 2016? He says "probably not, but we'll see."
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Dean tells The Associated Press he isn't ruling out the possibility of seeking the Democratic nomination, which he tried for and didn't get in 2004.

When asked about a possible 2016 run, the former Vermont governor laughed and said he'd have to see a psychiatrist first.

He says a second run may be harder than a first, because the candidate knows what he or she is getting into.

Read more: http://www.wptz.com/news/vermont-new-york/burlington/Dean-on-a-2016-run-Probably-not-but-we-ll-see/-/8869880/18089568/-/jnnrr8/-/index.html#ixzz2HegKqaIv


Yeah I don't think he's running - not even to be a voice - but fuck it: HOWARD DEAN IN 2016 - YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:55 AM

1. He'd make a better vice-president than most.

He'd no more be allowed the presidency than would Dennis Kucinich.

I hope they both run!

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:55 AM

2. his run would be nothing more than symbolic, like George McGovern's last run

 

if he wants to be in it, why not run for lower office?

Why not emmulate the great Jerry Brown and just run.
Being a talking head is great for the pocketbook, but you gotta be in it to do anything but yap

so why not run for senate or some house seat somewhere? Or Gov. or Mayor or something.

He could win a red seat somewhere, why not?

Of course, he could be Hillary45's VP. There are many people who could.
He would be one of them.

again, solely because of the party's makeup and the demographic change, it will not be a white male who is nominated in 2016.
It would be political suicide for the dems to do that, and they know that.
Again, solely based on the party itself and demographics.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:06 PM

6. Vermont has a full bench.

Sanders, Leahy, Welch. And I don't think he's interested in being governor again (plus he might be termed out).

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:16 PM

7. Every single rep seat is open? He could move to Virginia and run there

 

why the need to be senator or governor

why not mayor or house

like Jerry Brown did in between terms as governor

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:21 PM

8. He's a Vermonter for the duration. It's in his heart.

Also, I'm not sure why he would want to be Mayor of Burlington or something like that. He wants national media access.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:20 PM

11. then why would he want to be President/ he has to move to DC to be president

 

so it's media he wants(ego?), or to serve the party or the people?

better to win a house seat and make it easier to win the house in general to get what one wants passed.

that's why I love Jerry Brown.
He became Mayor of Oakland, became ag, became a few other jobs in between and wasn't in it to do anything but serve the public, of which he has done about the best possible job of anyone.

it's getting things done that is important, not the ego trip.

imho
(and I hope Jerry runs for reelection, and secretly would love Jerry to be Hillary's VP, but I doubt that is on the table)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:28 PM

15. Burlington isn't exactly Oakland. n/t

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:27 AM

3. Dean is younger than I thought

He's be 67 in 2016. The thing is he has executive experience, but not much in the way of foreign policy. I tend to agree he'd be a good VP nominee.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:44 AM

4. No thanks

 

Fair or not, the last run pretty much ended in embarassment for him and the party. Biden, Clinton, and probably a few others are more electable.

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Response to michigandem58 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:33 PM

12. Dean revitalized the party with his 50 state strategy, he worked his ass off.

we have a strong nationwide ground effort in place to get dems in office because of his leadership in the DNC. One could be at least a WEE bit grateful.

Bush embarrassed his party daily, here and abroad. it mattered not.

But I do see Dean as a vice-pres possibility, not at the top of the ticket, not realistically.

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Response to Kurovski (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 04:20 PM

13. Sorry if my reply seemed ungrateful

 

I am, I just don't think he's an asset as a national candidate at this point.

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Response to michigandem58 (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:15 PM

14. We're in fair amount of agreement.

I would like to see him run with other candidates in 2016 primary, the debates would be excellent.

And possible VP position for DEan.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:06 AM

5. At this point he's one of a few that I would be happy with as our next President.

 

We have to try to do better than the center-right expected crowd.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:36 PM

9. I'd be just as happy if he were heading the DNC

untethered.....

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:13 PM

10. Well if Howard or someone else promising doesn't run...

...I'm tethering myself to the Biden Blimp.

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