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Mon May 2, 2016, 07:49 AM

If "news" headlines were honest. cbs "news:" "We came, we saw, we lied." (repost HRC Group)

This is a repost of my original thread back in September. I've just cross posted it to gd p as well. Please feel free to copy and paste or link to this OP. I've noticed it's also making the rounds on kos. Please feel free to post to that and other websites that a running this. I'd appreciate credit. Thank you.

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If "news" headlines were honest. cbs "news:" "We came, we saw, we lied."

If the news reported as honestly, frequently, and energetically about republicans as they report dishonestly, frequently, and energetically about Democrats, the republican party would be gone within 5 years.


During a series of interviews in Kabul, Afghanistan on October 20, 2011, Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton received a text about another, unconfirmed report of gaddafi's capture.

cbs "news" captured those few moments on video. I've included a rough transcript of each clip. Some news sources used the first clip of the video; others used the second.

Link to first clip from cbs' news channel on youtube (will only play on youtube):

Caption: Published on Oct 20, 2011
During a series of press interviews in Kabul, Afghanistan, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gets a message on her Blackberry of what she calls an unconfirmed report of Muammar Qaddafi's capture. Shortly after, reports of Qaddafi's death began to surface around the world.

Link to second clip from cbs' entertainment channel on youtube (will only play on youtube):

Caption: Published on Oct 20, 2011
Speaking between network interviews, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton jokes with reporter on early, unconfirmed reports that deposed Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi had been killed.

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Rough transcripts of the two clips.

First clip:

HRC: Wow.
(background talking)
HRC: Unconfirmed.
(background talking)
HRC: Unconfirmed reports about gaddafi being captured.
(background talking)
HRC: Unconfirmed. Yeah. We've had too many, we had a bunch of those before...we've had...have had him captured a couple of times.

Second clip. The video continues:

(back of talking head) I mean, so that is the land of unconfirmed reports....
(HRC) Yes, we came, we saw, he died
(back of talking head) Do you think it had anything to do with your book?
(HRC) No, no, I'm sure it didn't

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From The Guardian:

Hillary Clinton reacts to news of Muammar Gaddafi's capture in Libya - http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2011/oct/20/hillary-clinton-gaddafi-capture-video
The US secretary of state is filmed as she first hears unconfirmed reports of Muammar Gaddafi's capture in the Libyan city of Sirte

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From the telegraph

Hillary Clinton receives news of Gaddafi's capture on her BlackBerry - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/libya-video/8839595/Hillary-Clinton-receives-news-of-Gaddafis-capture-on-her-BlackBerry.html

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton receives news of Gaddafi's capture on her BlackBerry during an interview with CBS News.
Hillary Clinton greeted the report with an exclamation of surprise, but immediately cautioned those present that similar claims from Libya in the past had proved premature.

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From the BBC:

Clinton 'wowed' by news of Gaddafi capture - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-15397713
21 October 2011 Last updated at 01:12 BST

The US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, was taken by surprise as she read the news of Col Muammar Gaddafi's capture on her phone.

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From buzzfeed:

Hilary Clinton’s Reaction To Gaddafi’s Capture - http://www.buzzfeed.com/ashleybaccam/hilary-clintons-reaction-to-gaddafis-capture#.qvkKN7JND

Here is Hilary Clinton’s reaction to the unconfirmed capture of Gaddafi. She seems fairly unfazed, but this was before there were reports of his death.

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From the daily mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051486/Gaddafi-dead-Hillary-Clinton-reacts-news-capture-BlackBerry.html

Mrs Clinton was preparing for interviews in Kabul, Afghanistan, when top aide Huma Abedin handed her a BlackBerry with the first news of Muammar Gaddafi’s capture.

'Wow,' the secretary of state exclaims. ‘Unconfirmed reports about Gaddafi being captured.’

<snip>

As others hover around her, she reminds them the report is not yet confirmed, saying, 'We’ve had a bunch of those before. 'We've had him captured a couple of times.'

The headline reads: 'Wow!': Hillary Clinton reacts as she finds out about Gaddafi's death on BlackBerry

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From the journal.ie:

“Wow…huh…”: how the world reacted to Gaddafi’s death -
http://www.thejournal.ie/wow-huh-how-the-world-reacted-to-gaddafis-death-259125-Oct2011

Hillary Clinton, Ban Ki Moon and Eamon Gilmore have been among those reacting to the death of Muammar Gaddafi in Sirte today.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did not make any official comment on the death but the moments she learned of reports of Gaddafi’s capture were caught by US television where she is heard saying: “Wow…huh…unconfirmed”.

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business insider:

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died-2011-10

Hillary Clinton On Qaddafi: We Came, We Saw, He Died

More jovial reaction from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton following news of Qaddafi's death.

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From English pravda:

Hillary Clinton laughs about Gaddafi's death - http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/21-10-2011/119403-hillary_clinton_gaddafi-0/
21.10.2011 | Source: Pravda.Ru

Hillary Clinton laughs about Gaddafi's death.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton learned about the death of Muammar Gaddafi via an SMS message. Clinton was staying in Kabul when she learned the news. The moment, when she was given a cell phone, was filmed by CBS NEWS as Clinton was getting ready for an interview.

Clinton received her BlackBerry from an assistant. Having read the message about Gaddafi's capture, she exclaimed: "Wow!"

<snip>

The US Secretary of State looked happy. She and the CBS reporter laughed about the death of the Libyan dictator. She paraphrased a well-known phrase by Julius Caesar and said: "We came, we saw, he died!"

<snip>

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russia today (rt)

US media on Gaddafi: In praise of lynching - http://rt.com/news/us-media-gaddafi-death-747/

The mainstream US media has reacted to Muammar Gaddafi's brutal lynching with a tidal wave of cheers and approval, trumpeting the Colonel’s death as the start of a new era for Libya.

­US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton led the triumphant celebrations of Gaddafi’s death with her immortal line, “We came, we saw, he died!” - words which are sure to be remembered far beyond America’s shores.

Joy at the killing of the killing of the African leader spread like wildfire through the US media.

<snip>

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CBS "News" "Special Report"


At about 3:20 mark: "We have not heard any official confirmation from any US source today. The president has not spoken about this. The secretary of state, who is traveling today, has also reserved any comment, waiting for absolute confirmation..."

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Also from cbs "news"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/

Clinton on Qaddafi: "We came, we saw, he died"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton shared a laugh with a television news reporter moments after hearing deposed Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi had been killed.

"We came, we saw, he died," she joked when told of news reports of Qaddafi's death by an aide in between formal interviews.

Clinton was in Tripoli earlier this week for talks with leaders of Libya's National Transitional Council (NTC).

The reporter asked if Qaddafi's death had anything to do with her surprise visit to show support for the Libyan people.

"No," she replied, before rolling her eyes and saying "I'm sure it did" with a chuckle.

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Response to Cerridwen (Original post)

Mon May 2, 2016, 08:18 AM

1. Mahalo for this, Cerridwen

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Mon May 2, 2016, 12:46 PM

3. You're welcome.

The cynicism and dishonesty displayed by cbs bugs the hell out of me.

If you don't mind, please help keep kicked in gd p. I don't post much here (du) anymore and I'd really like to see this kind of garbage debunked.

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Response to Cerridwen (Original post)

Mon May 2, 2016, 08:47 AM

2. Another RW meme sent down the toilet

(from whence it came). Great job!

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #2)

Mon May 2, 2016, 12:56 PM

4. Thank you.

All the articles I listed in the OP are based on the same event. Each outlet put its own spin on it. cbs had two different narratives they used. How the hell can anyone stay informed if the press plays "fast and loose" with facts; reporting some facts but not others, removing context from events, misleading headlines, burying the lead, inserting carefully selected quotes and conflating them into dishonest article.

It's not just the radical right wing (rrw) doing this. It's the very industry that many people rely on to stay informed and up to date. And, it's not just the so called, mainstream media doing it. I've seen the dishonest article and video posted as fact in many forums.

I'd also like to ask, as I asked Cha, if you wouldn't mind, please help keep the OP in gd p kicked so that hopefully, some of the dishonestly from the press can be seen by as many as just accepted the other video as fact.

Thanks again.

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Response to Cerridwen (Original post)

Mon May 2, 2016, 01:03 PM

5. Wow. Laid out expertly. Thank you. K&R

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #5)

Mon May 2, 2016, 01:11 PM

7. Thanks and you're welcome.

I appreciate the kick and recommend.

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Response to Cerridwen (Original post)

Mon May 2, 2016, 01:06 PM

6. K&R!

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Mon May 2, 2016, 01:11 PM

8. Thank you.

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