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Thu May 26, 2016, 02:24 PM

Wow. Now Bernie Sanders, St. Bernie, is also FDR.

A Powerful Attack on the "Destructive" Populist "Platitudes" of Bernie Sanders.

We can hope, or worry, or something, that Germany will go fascist, invade France, bomb Britain, all so Bernie can show us how Roosevelty he is.

If anyone uses the word "platitude" - and frankly I'm very fond of the word where St. Bernie is concerned - they are obviously attacking FDR.

Sheesh.

This is the worst political season I've lived through, worse than Bush v. Gore, McGovern v. Nixon, but not worse, apparently than Hoover v FDR or for that matter Wendell Wilkie v. FDR.

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Response to NNadir (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 02:30 PM

1. Don't you love how the Bernie-ites try to claim that all of the FDR polices were socialist policies?

 

FDR was a Democrat, and a "red" he was not. Democratic policies by a Democratic President. Or maybe Bernie get to go retro now.

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Response to NNadir (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 02:31 PM

2. Saint or not, I'd still want to see them taxes!

 

eom.

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Response to Her Sister (Reply #2)

Thu May 26, 2016, 03:28 PM

4. Saints don't have to disclose their complete tax returns. That goes for "Saint Donald" too.

Some believe themselves above and beyond scrutiny and criticism.

We others think of ourselves as "Human, All Too Human."

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Response to NNadir (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 02:34 PM

3. How ridiculous to compare a speech made against FDR with anything being said about Sanders

Sanders is no FDR and the Democratic Party is not Herbert Hoover.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #3)

Thu May 26, 2016, 03:30 PM

5. FDR didn't poke his finger and flap his arms.

He just kind of got things done.

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Response to Koinos (Reply #5)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:17 PM

7. Like all great Presidents, he was creative, flexible, and willing to listen to all sides and...

weigh them seriously.

Unlike at least two Presidential candidates at either extreme in the current day, he was able to change his mind without being impulsive and, um, well, crazy, and he had a healthy amount of charm well coupled with a certain willingness to hold his cards close to his chest as long as was necessary.

These properties were also well known in the case of Abraham Lincoln.

Both Presidents, FDR and Lincoln, made mistakes, some of which were grievous, but both Presidents are generally acknowledged to have saved their country by growing through, leading through and living through their times.

FDR also had something that at least one candidate in the current election cycle has; a brilliant spouse with a deep knowledge of politics and the art of negotiation. (For me, Eleanor Roosevelt was the greatest Democrat of the 20th century, well, no, not just the 20th century, but of all time; but that's just my opinion. Not a day goes by that I do not think of her.)

(Actually Mary Lincoln, though much maligned by some historians, was also brilliant and had a lot to do with who her husband became.)

And then there's, um, Bernie...

I am not comparing my candidate, Ms. Clinton, with FDR or Lincoln, but merely stating that both of these "greatest" Presidents were well served by strong spouses and this will help the second President Clinton navigate our country through very perilous times.

Have a nice evening.

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Response to NNadir (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 03:37 PM

6. Sanders is not FDR

This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.

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Response to NNadir (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:35 PM

8. Sanders is definitely not an FDR by any stretch of the imagination - unless it was being somewhat

hostile to PoC - depending on what PoC at the time bothers them.

FDR = Japanese Internment Camps for Japanese-Americans.

Sanders = against comprehensive immigration reform and dumping nuclear waste into the backyards of impoverished Mexican-Americans.

But that's where the similarities pretty much stop between the two.

Also, the liberals of FDR's time hated him.

There was criticism of Roosevelt for being too close to Wall Street, criticism of the New Deal's pragmatism and non-ideological approach, criticism of the New Deal for not going nearly far enough, criticism of the New Deal and Roosevelt as preferring conservatism to liberalism, and so on.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/8/11/891631/-


Do these criticisms ring a bell? They come from the same quarters that have excoriated President Obama and what have lobbed the nastiest things about Hillary Clinton all throughout the Democratic Party primaries. Same movie, different actors.

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