Enough with Bernie Sanders (HRC GROUP)

[savalez]

...the truth is that Sanders does not deserve a movement, and his losing campaign does not deserve unusual deference and concessions. His tale about American oligarchy is simplistic, his policy proposals are shallow, his rejection of political reality is absurd, his self-righteousness and stubbornness are unbecoming. And, yes, he has lost. Here are some simple points worth repeating:

• Sanders’s path to the Democratic presidential nomination is essentially nonexistent. His only hope rests on convincing Democratic “superdelegates,” nearly all of whom back Hillary Clinton, to swing his way. They will not do that. It is incoherent for Sanders to ask them to do so, given that he has attacked superdelegates as non-democratic actors in the nominating process and that Clinton will almost certainly end the cycle with more votes and more pledged delegates. It is also staggeringly arrogant that Sanders would think that superdelegates, the Democratic “establishment” sorts that he has spent the whole campaign cartoonishly attacking as tools of Wall Street, would be open to his entreaties.

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So, enough with the reality-denial. Enough with the sanctimony. Enough with the attitude that only Sanders’s agenda counts. Enough with the dream that his movement is broader and more powerful than it has proved to be at the ballot box. Enough with the paranoid conspiracy theorizing, the lazy attacks on the “establishment,” the platitudes about the right to health care and the right to free college without realistic plans to realize them, the delegitimization of those who disagree, the scorning of practicality, the outrageous negativity about the state of the country and the simplistic narrative of evil 1 percenters who are to blame for everything that is wrong. Enough with the excuses for half-baked policy proposals (It is the direction, not the specifics, that matter!). Enough with the “political revolution.”

Berners can accept reality or sink deeper into delusion. Only one of these options would be good for them and good for the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/06/01/enough-with-bernie-sanders/?postshare=251464786690676&tid=ss_tw

[72DejaVu]

1. Barney Who?

[savalez]

2. You're right! Benny who?

[kjones]

6. Bobby?

Booby?

[Maru Kitteh]

16. Barney? Our oldest liked Barney

[realmirage]

3. Benny

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[Doctor Jack]

4. I am getting extremely tired of him

Saying that clinton is "unqualified", the "lesser of two evils", responding to her speech today as if he is a trump surrogate. The guy is pissing me off. If he wants to run as a democrat and basically run the democratic party, he can't tear a massive hole in it and then say its not his fault. If he continues on this path, he is going to go down as one of the villains in this election.

[Cha]

5. You beat me to it, savalez.. I was going to post this when I got home..

Commentary: Bernie Sanders, enough with your 'political revolution'

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But the truth is that Sanders does not deserve a movement, and his losing campaign does not deserve unusual deference and concessions. His tale about American oligarchy is simplistic, his policy proposals are shallow, his rejection of political reality is absurd, his self-righteousness and stubbornness are unbecoming. And, yes, he has lost. Here are some simple points worth repeating:

Sanders' path to the Democratic presidential nomination is essentially nonexistent. His only hope rests on convincing Democratic "superdelegates," nearly all of whom back Hillary Clinton, to swing his way. They will not do that. It is incoherent for Sanders to ask them to do so, given that he has attacked superdelegates as non-democratic actors in the nominating process and that Clinton will almost certainly end the cycle with more votes and more pledged delegates. It is also staggeringly arrogant that Sanders would think that superdelegates, the Democratic "establishment" sorts that he has spent the whole campaign cartoonishly attacking as tools of Wall Street, would be open to his entreaties.

snip//

A Clinton nomination would be wholly legitimate. Sanders zealot Seth Abramson writes, "While not rigged, there is no question that the Democratic Party's primary process — which uses superdelegates to create an appearance of pre-election electoral inevitability and closed primaries and onerous registration requirements to exclude many new, independent, and party-switching voters — has dramatically favored Mrs. Clinton." This is nonsense, considering that Sanders has benefited from weird, anti-democratic quirks of the nominating process. FiveThirtyEight ran the numbers and found that "Clinton has been hurt at least as much by caucuses as Sanders has been hurt by closed primaries."

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So, enough with the reality-denial. Enough with the sanctimony. Enough with the attitude that only Sanders' agenda counts. Enough with the dream that his movement is broader and more powerful than it has proved to be at the ballot box. Enough with the paranoid conspiracy theorizing, the lazy attacks on the "establishment," the platitudes about the right to health care and the right to free college without realistic plans to realize them, the delegitimization of those who disagree, the scorning of practicality, the outrageous negativity about the state of the country and the simplistic narrative of evil 1 percenters who are to blame for everything that is wrong. Enough with the excuses for half-baked policy proposals (It is the direction, not the specifics, that matter!). Enough with the "political revolution."

Much more @ http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-delusional-stubborn-20160601-story.html

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/01/chat-away-830/#comments

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[savalez]

11. :)

Cha!

[Cha]

12. It's good one... tells it like it is.. really hard

hitting!

savelez~

[fleabiscuit]

7. I wonder if we could go BS free in the HRC group until the nomination? Too hard? Possible?

Diminish BS bs and turn it HRC centric? Minimize BS? No more KICKs for BS bs? No more Recs for BS bs? No responses to BS bs?

To hard?

[Cha]

15. There's this.. that only Nance has commented on.. It's a Good one!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107153471

flea~

[Egalatarian]

8. The Right To Vote

It is amazing to me that you want to suppress the right of voters to vote and their freedom of choice in the primary election. You are supposed to be a citizen of a democracy and every US citizen has the right to vote in an election as granted by our constitution. Please stop being part of the movement to suppress this right and let the people of the remaining primary elections to be held vote for the person of their choice. Hilary Clinton and her supporters participated in the primary election all the way to the Democratic National Convention in 2008. Barack Obama's campaign treated her the way she, her supporters and surrogats are treating Bernie Sanders. Even when Obama and his campaign said they had double the super delegates support then she had on June 3, 2008 she did not concede for four more days. Why can you not let this candidate do the same. Especially when all of you know how she was treated. Is this do unto others as done unto you regardless if it is right and knowing how acrimonious she felt for several days afterwards?

[savalez]

9. The Benny group is that-a-way --->

[Egalatarian]

10. What.......???? Really???? eom

[Cha]

13. Eg is gone.

[savalez]

14. Thanks.

I'm sure he/she found their way to the echo chamber by now.

[UtahLib]

18. But, Cha, as per his profile,

he has almost always voted for Democrats.

[Iamaartist]

17. Barney who LOL

[UtahLib]

19. K&R. nt