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Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:37 PM Jun 2016

Did Clinton just finally figure out how to hit Trump?

Hillary Clinton may have cracked the code on how to land a real blow to Donald Trump. He has proven a maddeningly elusive target for Republicans and Democrats alike. But on Thursday in San Diego, Clinton delivered what was easily her toughest speech yet on the presumptive Republican nominee, deploying a potent combination of her well-known policy wonkishness with a surprising dose of ridicule.

“It’s clear he doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about,” she urged, and added, “If Donald gets his way, they’ll be celebrating in the Kremlin.”

It’s too early to know for sure whether it will work, and if she becomes the Democratic nominee as expected she’ll need to repeat the message a few thousand times before November for it to stick. But Clinton’s performance, the latest and most effective in a series of putative “opening salvos” of the general election, was immediately hailed by Democrats as a welcomed change for a candidate who often struggles to transcend policy minutiae.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/did-clinton-just-finally-figure-out-how-hit-trump
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Did Clinton just finally figure out how to hit Trump? (Original Post) Doctor Jack Jun 2016 OP
Hoping for the Daisy ad question everything Jun 2016 #1
i remember it. LBJ was my first vote. back then DesertFlower Jun 2016 #22
Sure seems like it MFM008 Jun 2016 #2
She ripped Donald Trump a new asshole Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #5
No, she has been waiting. And this is only the beginning, there is much more out there for her to Jitter65 Jun 2016 #3
Her campaign said they have enough opposition research to "burn trump towers to the ground" Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #6
Isn't it just that's she's only powering up her attacks against him? greyl Jun 2016 #4
I'm sure she hasn't even started yet Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #7
i watched about 10 hours of it. she did great. DesertFlower Jun 2016 #23
Trump has provided SO much material RussBLib Jun 2016 #8
Him losing the election isn't enough Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #9
I agree. sarae Jun 2016 #11
As he has said, he could and his supporters would still follow him Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #12
"Oh Donald, the things you say are so....silly" that will get his goat nt msongs Jun 2016 #10
Trump is just a dumber meaner Sarah Palin C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #13
Fatigue will set in Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #14
Palin has word salad C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #15
During the primaries, i watched a few of his "speeches" on primary nights Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #16
I found that his "speeches" put me to sleep. athena Jun 2016 #17
Rubio and Cruz weren't any better, thats for sure Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #19
The reason this election is so depressing... sarae Jun 2016 #20
They will all be dead of old age soon Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #24
They are young in New Jersey JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #28
Yikes! Never thought anyone could be dumber and meaner than Palin SharonClark Jun 2016 #26
Great response. Also true. nruthie Jun 2016 #27
I think that what's going to happen DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #18
He thinks all women need to make him dinner Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #21
I think she knew all along but could/would not because there's the 2nd Place candidate Her Sister Jun 2016 #25
She's known all along JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #29
As one person replied here she still had to deal with Sanders. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #30

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
22. i remember it. LBJ was my first vote. back then
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jun 2016

had to be 21 to vote. i was 19 when JFK ran -- so upset that i couldn't vote.

goldwater scared the hell out of me and many others.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
5. She ripped Donald Trump a new asshole
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jun 2016

I finally got to watch the speech on youtube and his response was weak. Go on twitter and whine like a piece of shit. A few more attacks like this from clinton and he will be whimpering in the corner like an overweight, bald child.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
3. No, she has been waiting. And this is only the beginning, there is much more out there for her to
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jun 2016

use going back to 1980.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
6. Her campaign said they have enough opposition research to "burn trump towers to the ground"
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jun 2016

I suspect he will be comatose by July

greyl

(22,990 posts)
4. Isn't it just that's she's only powering up her attacks against him?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jun 2016

I doubt it was hard for her to figure out, and I didn't feel like she was outside of her typical comfort zone. She displayed similar quick wit and fearless frankness toward many at the 11 hour HSC on Benghazi hearing.

RussBLib

(9,003 posts)
8. Trump has provided SO much material
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jun 2016

Frankly, it doesn't seem so hard to fight Trump using his own words against him. The GOP contenders couldn't do it because a lot of them agree with a lot of Trump's crap.

When we get into the wider American audience, however, Trump's words should be enough to sink him, but I still think that attacking his businesses is a winning strategy too.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
9. Him losing the election isn't enough
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

His brand and all of his businesses need to collapse as well. Him and his companies are nothing but a drain on American society.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
11. I agree.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

I want him to be completely and utterly ruined; I loathe him like I've never loathed anyone before. I honestly don't see a difference between Trump and Hitler. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he's murdered people.

C_U_L8R

(44,987 posts)
13. Trump is just a dumber meaner Sarah Palin
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:43 AM
Jun 2016

With too much money and no decency or common sense. And definitely no filter. A thin skinned loose cannon who loves the sound of his own voice a bit too much. I sense more and more people will see him for the gross buffoon that he his.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
14. Fatigue will set in
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016

His abrasive, "tell it like it is" style will become tiring and flat out annoying to the people that aren't currently sacred shitless by it. The new style is often refreshing at first but the slower people among us will see why no other politician acts like him, because it is stupid and scary. As the election approaches, having a wild eyed, loose cannon, non-expert in every area will start to become more and more of a bad idea to more and more people.

C_U_L8R

(44,987 posts)
15. Palin has word salad
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:02 AM
Jun 2016

Trump is a whole shmorgasborg.
The man is a mess of misfiring synapses that don't add up to drumpf.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
16. During the primaries, i watched a few of his "speeches" on primary nights
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jun 2016

I was hoping he was going to announce a 3rd party run early on so i watched him a few times. My god, talk about incoherent nonsense. I have never seen anything like it. Anyone that claims what he says make any sense to them probably needs a psychiatric evaluation. He could say "apple home ran folder purple mousetrap up" and his supporters would cheer wildly and say it was the greatest policy speech they have ever heard.

athena

(4,187 posts)
17. I found that his "speeches" put me to sleep.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:42 AM
Jun 2016

In fact, it wasn't just Trump; all the Republican candidates put me to sleep.

It was weird. I would try watching the debates, expecting to get really angry, but instead, I would fall asleep in my chair after at most thirty minutes. Same thing with the "speeches." A total lack of coherence seems to have that effect on me. It puts me into a dream-like state, which leads to a very peaceful sleep.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
19. Rubio and Cruz weren't any better, thats for sure
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:47 AM
Jun 2016

I remember after new hampshire, i tried to listen to one of rubio's speeches on primary night. The media was billing him as the "republican Obama" at the time. I was expecting him to rip off obama's style and maybe have some generic, feel good speech to appeal to a broader audience. Instead it was a bunch of "we need to embrace Christian values in schools and kick homosexuals out of the army and blah blah blah stupid bullshit blahalahalalala". None of them ever came close to making an even vaguely coherent speech. Just more of the crazy bullshit that we have heard since Barry Goldwater.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
20. The reason this election is so depressing...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:49 AM
Jun 2016

is stuff like this:

He could say "apple home ran folder purple mousetrap up" and his supporters would cheer wildly and say it was the greatest policy speech they have ever heard.

It gives me such a powerless, hopeless, desperate, feeling to think that our future could be determined by morons like that.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
24. They will all be dead of old age soon
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:56 AM
Jun 2016

In the last year, i have lived in utah and texas. I have only met a handful of trump supporters (everyone else thinks he is a massive jackass) and none were younger than....80 years old. Its the death throes of a generation that is rapidly losing their grip on this nation. Besides a few frat boys that get upset because women refuse to have sex with them, trump's appeal is mostly limited to people that were in their 20's and 30's when the Klan was still a powerful and influential force in their town. Why do you think he is polling at around 39%? Because there aren't enough angry, dumbass, retiree white people to sweep him into office.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
28. They are young in New Jersey
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

Just able to vote going up to Senior Citizens. There is a segment of millenials and gen exers that he appeals to. I don't care why he does. I just want them to stay off my lawn.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
26. Yikes! Never thought anyone could be dumber and meaner than Palin
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jun 2016

When do you think he'll be on Dancing with the Stars?

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
18. I think that what's going to happen
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:47 AM
Jun 2016

is he's going to continue having ongoing Twitter wars with Warren, while HRC verbally eviscerates him. I expect he'll meltdown about it, because both are strong women, which he really doesn't seem to like.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
21. He thinks all women need to make him dinner
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:51 AM
Jun 2016

What is this with women trying to be a part of the government? Who's heard of a woman having a job, let alone working in government? In Trump world, such things won't be allowed.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
25. I think she knew all along but could/would not because there's the 2nd Place candidate
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

whose feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings she needed to contend with and coddle.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
29. She's known all along
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

And the fact is -

He's too emotional and erratic for the job. To me that was the best part about SOS Clinton's speech yesterday. Aside from her strong policy clarification - she pointed it out -

America needs a strong centered individual who doesn't get overly emotional and temperamental in the position of leadership.

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
30. As one person replied here she still had to deal with Sanders.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jun 2016

But even then it really would had been too early. The Republicans couldn't get it done mainly because there were too many candidates in the race.

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