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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:02 AM Jun 2016

I watch sanders every day and noticable he is coming unglued and the wheels are coming off

he is evolving into this guy with decades of pent up frustration and dislike of the "establishment" as he can not handle the rejection and defeat. "The Socialist Worker Party" bernie sanders is now taking over where he will find joy in teaching america a lesson as he continues to attack our democratic nominee in hopes of weakening hillary as much as possible giving trump room to squeak out the win....

the typical "teach us all a lesson" mentality that zealots have, yes bernie is a zealot as we are witnessing. Sanders need to take a time out after hillary wins the nomination tuesday. Take a couple days off in vermont and do some self-reflection and ask yourself do you want to be responsible for a president trump...that is the way history will treat you....as a modern day Benedict Arnold...who allowed a despot to change the course of american history

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I watch sanders every day and noticable he is coming unglued and the wheels are coming off (Original Post) beachbum bob Jun 2016 OP
Anyone who ever had to deal with the SWP 72DejaVu Jun 2016 #1
what many of us hillary supporters know and what our super delegates know and sanders people don't beachbum bob Jun 2016 #2
Exactly. eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #18
Yup Freddie Jun 2016 #3
Makes you wonder if the SWP are autocrats in heart and soul. If so, they're no different than BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #19
Ding..ding..ding..ding..ding..ding..ding.. We have a winner. There is no fundamental difference. fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #25
I didn't think so, either, fb. I've always been anti-autocratic so I guess I would've made a horribl BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #27
Isn't it strange how he says we should take care of everyone and as soon as someone says something Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #4
perhaps after this is over, hillary will realize what a mistake was not to go full speed at sanders beachbum bob Jun 2016 #11
IMO, she showed her class by NOT BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #14
She could have, there was not a need, he was not going negative but he did. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #17
I don't believe Hillary will let him slide. She's not going to go after him while the media are BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #20
I think she made a wise choice in letting him sink himself. puffy socks Jun 2016 #22
I predict that he will have a breakdown after June 7. And that is not good. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #5
No its not puffy socks Jun 2016 #24
Yes. A modern day Benedict Arnold misterhighwasted Jun 2016 #6
Bernie Sanders will be remembered as a latter day Henry Wallace, forgotten and irrelevant. NNadir Jun 2016 #7
Wow! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #8
Just because someone can bamboozle a couple of ex-movie stars and.... Walk away Jun 2016 #9
That was a great response, NNadir! brer cat Jun 2016 #10
LOL....I forgot about Henry Wallace beachbum bob Jun 2016 #12
So well said...agree 100%. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #13
Great response! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #15
Henry Wallace forgotten and irrelevant? SharonClark Jun 2016 #28
He is politically forgotten and irrelevant, as he should be. NNadir Jun 2016 #32
great articulate reply puffy socks Jun 2016 #30
Very good. Definitely has slipped into delusion. nt fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #33
Every little thing is preceived as a slight against him even when his campaign F's up. Historic NY Jun 2016 #16
Nothing is ever his fault. Koinos Jun 2016 #21
Reminds me of a certain fellow named Donald who, um, is the apparent Repuke nominee. n/t NNadir Jun 2016 #23
They say you learn more about someone's character in times of adversity. I'll just say that, lol CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #26
Sanders is not happy and is showing it Gothmog Jun 2016 #29
I may be dreaming but . . . peggysue2 Jun 2016 #31
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. what many of us hillary supporters know and what our super delegates know and sanders people don't
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jun 2016

and why super delegates will never switch sides

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
3. Yup
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jun 2016

I dated a SWP guy a zillion years ago in college. Everything was black/white with no in-between, he was right and the world was wrong. I was wondering who the Bernistas reminded me of, now it's clear. I have no idea whatever happened to my long-ago ex but I don't think he saved the world.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
19. Makes you wonder if the SWP are autocrats in heart and soul. If so, they're no different than
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jun 2016

Teapublicans and Republicans, no matter how high they build their pedestals and claim otherwise.

au·to·crat
ˈôdəˌkrat/
noun
noun: autocrat; plural noun: autocrats

a ruler who has absolute power.
synonyms: absolute ruler, dictator, despot, tyrant
"the former autocrat could be banned from traveling abroad while the investigation proceeds"

someone who insists on complete obedience from others; an imperious or domineering person.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
27. I didn't think so, either, fb. I've always been anti-autocratic so I guess I would've made a horribl
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders follower.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Isn't it strange how he says we should take care of everyone and as soon as someone says something
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:55 AM
Jun 2016

Negative about him then the comments turn nasty? Hillary handled him with kid gloves and he does not stop his comments about her.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
11. perhaps after this is over, hillary will realize what a mistake was not to go full speed at sanders
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jun 2016

immediately after he announced....I think the fear at the time was sanders would turn tale and pull a third party....which is of course he may still do..


there are people with character and class and there are those who lack it.....sanders is quickly falling into the later

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
14. IMO, she showed her class by NOT
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:16 AM
Jun 2016

going after him with petty comments. She's doing just fine.

Bernie has no one to blame but himself. But can you even imagine how he would have reacted to Trump's name-calling, etc. tactics?

And they are nothing compared to what the GOP establishment would have sent his way. Nothing.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
20. I don't believe Hillary will let him slide. She's not going to go after him while the media are
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jun 2016

still swooning over him. She's far too smart for that. But once the G.E. begins and he's sent back to VT, I'm certain she or her allies will make it very clear to him he's messed with the wrong people and Party. And it would be justified.

There's a reason why Republican moneymasters and their lackeys (all U.S. Media) fear the Clintons and have supported Senator Obama in 2008 and now Sanders in 2016. The Clintons are known to hit back hard against their enemies.

Just as we saw how he really is by looking at the lack of endorsements from longtime colleagues and what they've said about him, we need to look at how the media (the propaganda outlets for Republicans still posing as our long-dead 4th estate) is covering Hillary Clinton vs covering Sanders. She won't forget.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
22. I think she made a wise choice in letting him sink himself.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jun 2016

She gave him plenty of rope and he and his supporters did just as was expected.
I think Obama said something like

let fools talk , let them talk and they will expose themselves for the fools they are.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
24. No its not
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

His followers will also have a meltdown and judging from the Nevada Convention, the HC rally and Trump rallies in Cali , theyve come unhinged a bit already.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
6. Yes. A modern day Benedict Arnold
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jun 2016

At the rate he's going, by the time the convention takes place, his delegate #'s will have been peeled off to resemble his glorious VI percentage of an embarassing 12%.
America is more than happy to keep giving him more & more rope.
Go down in flames camp bernie..go down in a brief, insignificant & embarassing poof of flames, as America rolls on stronger with the brilliant Hillary Clinton leading the way.

NNadir

(33,477 posts)
7. Bernie Sanders will be remembered as a latter day Henry Wallace, forgotten and irrelevant.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

Irrelevant, of course, is where he started, and despite the mythical "media blackout" he had a brief moment in the sun, which he is now squandering.

I was told recently here by a somewhat delusional Sandersnista on this website that "FDR would have voted for Bernie" because Henry Wallace was his VP.

I had this reply: I suggest you read history before speaking for FDR.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. Just because someone can bamboozle a couple of ex-movie stars and....
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

and army of children doesn't mean that anyone else takes him seriously. FDR was a brilliant man and a Brilliant politician. I doubt he would spend a minute with Bernie.

brer cat

(24,525 posts)
10. That was a great response, NNadir!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

There is something sad about people having to conjure the dead to find a supporter.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
28. Henry Wallace forgotten and irrelevant?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

Only as a presidential candidate. In Iowa he is revered as a humanitarian and scientist. He had an interesting and important life, starting with learning plant genetics from his mother and following George Washington Carver around when Carver lived with his family as a college student. We take great pride in the Wallace family and their impact on agriculture in the US and the world.

NNadir

(33,477 posts)
32. He is politically forgotten and irrelevant, as he should be.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

I would question the "humanitarianism" of someone who opposed the Marshall Plan, calling it, in Sanderseque terms, a program for the benefit of "war mongers and money changers."

I don't think that subjecting Greece - for just one example - to the "benefits" of Stalinism would have had a humanitarian outcome.

By 1952, the Western European nations had economies that surpassed their 1938 economies, despite having been devastated by the worst war in world history.

The number of wars - hardly humanitarian in their nature - was zero.

As a scientist, I can say there is very little in his scientific work which would have remained undiscovered by other competent scientists.

Have a nice afternoon.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
30. great articulate reply
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jun 2016

and this...

"I'm deeply suspicious of righteousness, because too often it slips into dogma, and sometimes into delusion. "



me too.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
16. Every little thing is preceived as a slight against him even when his campaign F's up.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jun 2016

its like a rudderless ship floating in the breeze.

peggysue2

(10,825 posts)
31. I may be dreaming but . . .
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

I still think Bernie has a chance to pull this out, show some courage and character and get on board in the fight to defeat Donald Trump. Of course, he must drop the fairytale that somehow the primary is still winnable. He needs to communicate that reality to his supporters and he needs to offer a full-throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton, following her example in 2008.

I've always said we would see what Bernie Sanders was truly made of once the primary ended. Because losing really is a test of character. This is a choice for Sanders, whether he offers an open hand or a clenched fist. Whatever legacy he may have following the primary and into the future hangs on that choice.

Btw, I read last night that on Wednesday morning the Democratic Party is ready to shift completely to a GE footing. President Obama, Harry Reid and Joe Biden will come out strongly for Clinton and the party structure and funding apparatus will go into battle posture against all things Trump.

Then the main event really begins.

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