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Renew Deal

(81,801 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:54 PM Jun 2016

Sportsmanship matters

Last edited Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:11 AM - Edit history (2)

I understand the sore feelings with Sanders supporters. They've said and done some terrible things in regards to Hillary and her supporters. I get it. But Clinton supporters shouldn't rub it in. Remember who these people are. They are our friends. They are our ideological partners. Many of us supported the same candidates as them in 2008 or 2004 and likely will again in 2020 or 2024.

I'm not saying we should accept dead ender talk about the convention or letting Trump win, but there is no need to personally denigrate, ridicule, or taunt individual supporters. We will need each other in the future.

EDIT: It is OK to rub it in with HA Goodman. He's not on our side on any level. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107158814

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TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
2. BrandNewCongress is a rather unrealistic attempt to replace Congress en masse with Bernie clones
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jun 2016

400+ of them, no less. All at once.

Can't agree with you on that one. Sorry.

As far as rubbing it in, I agree with you on that in principle, but a lot of these people are quite certainly not our friends or ideological partners. Many are leftover Nader/Paulites and more than a few are trolls. Many have been solidly anti-Democrat for 15 years on DU.

We should certainly be reasonable with those who respond in kind. On that, we can agree.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
5. "We should certainly be reasonable with those who respond in kind. On that, we can agree."
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jun 2016

and that's it. I refuse to take any more of their crap. They rarely respond in kind.
Saying "yay Hillary!" is "rubbing it in" to these people, and it hasn't been since their loss..its been for over a year they've been nasty .

BootinUp

(46,924 posts)
8. Bernie clones, I hate to think what would happen
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jun 2016

but my logic says it would be like the tea party of the left. Not good.

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
9. At least they updated their goals. At first, they wanted to replace all 535 Congresspeople in 2018.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jun 2016

It had to be pointed out to them that Senators serve 6-year terms and that not all of them are up for reelection in '18.

You know, math.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
4. I appreciate what you're saying.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jun 2016

In real life, Bernie supporters have always been - and still are - my friends. They preferred BS - I preferred HRC. And we supported our candidate-of-preference accordingly.

When it comes to DU however, this does not apply. There are too many trolls here who feigned support of Bernie as a means to demean Hillary - and, to a great extent, the Democratic Party as a whole.

I empathize with those here who truly felt that Bernie was the better choice, the right choice. I understand their disappointment in having lost this race - and I acknowledge their right to BE disappointed. Many BS supporters here have been sincere in their choice of candidate, and have done BS proud in their passion, their enthusiasm for his candidacy, and their unwavering belief in his message.

But - and that's a big BUT - I am not about to recognize ALL alleged Bernie supporters on DU as being "our friends". Many of them simply aren't, never have been, never will be.

Those "we need in the future" will be with us in ensuring that the WH remains in Democratic hands. They will join the fight to make sure that someone like Trump will NEVER be elected POTUS. They will NEVER allow a Republican to win the GE - and whether he is running against HRC, Bernie, or any other candidate is of no consequence to those who know the difference between a Democrat and a Republican being elected.

I do not consider true BS supporters to be the enemy. I DO consider those who posed as BS supporters to be the enemy - and I think we all know which is which.



 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
6. I totally understand how frustrating it is not to have your candidate win, but nothing we say
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

positive or negative is going to replace the inner process they will have to go through to let all this primary craziness go. When we reach out they say fuck you, when we lash out they say "that's not going to win us over." There's nothing we can do. It's a personal process they will have to get through over time.

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