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caquillo

(521 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:21 PM Jun 2016

Just watched Bernie Sanders 6/7 speech

There was a very telling moment when he said, "Tonight I had a very kind call from President Obama and I look forward to working with him to ensure that we move this country forward." [The emphasis was his, not mine.]

Misogyny, bitterness?



*Edited to remove second half, because it was a separate subject.

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Just watched Bernie Sanders 6/7 speech (Original Post) caquillo Jun 2016 OP
I think he wanted to use the White House as a stage for his press statement. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #1
Plus, Hillary had to call him to get her congratulations. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #2
This DURHAM D Jun 2016 #12
I just posted elsewhere that BS said today that he "congratulated her campaign." displacedtexan Jun 2016 #3
It's surreal. It's like Sanders is salivating at the idea that we're getting closer and closer stopbush Jun 2016 #4
He moved the goal post to the candidate having pledged delegate majority, since Hillary has more Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #6
Worse, some of his surrogates have suggested that Hillary needed to hit 2383 counting only stopbush Jun 2016 #7
Now he's lying about the vote count in California.. like that's going to make a differnce Cha Jun 2016 #10
what did he say about the vote count? sarae Jun 2016 #11
that once all the votes are counted DURHAM D Jun 2016 #13
Hopefully after next Tuesday he can move on to working on the GE, we have lots of work ahead and Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #5
I don't trust him. I'd rather he just went back to the Senate and/or took the summer off. stopbush Jun 2016 #9
There is a need to negotiate, if he is unable to negotiate then his ideas will die in the meantime. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #14
I'd say that there's a need to maybe give the appearance of negotiating. stopbush Jun 2016 #16
Spot on! texstad79 Jun 2016 #17
Don't you worry about a damn thing burnie.. Hillary's going to be moving this Cha Jun 2016 #8
Did he and Jane 2naSalit Jun 2016 #15

displacedtexan

(15,695 posts)
3. I just posted elsewhere that BS said today that he "congratulated her campaign."
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

What an expletive of your choice.

stopbush

(24,376 posts)
4. It's surreal. It's like Sanders is salivating at the idea that we're getting closer and closer
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

to the convention, when the super delegates will miraculously switch their support to him from Hillary.

Getting his ass kicked by every measurable standard doesn't seem to phase him. It's like his thinking is, "I'm going to flip Hillary's super delegates. But before I can do that, they first need to identify themselves as supporting her. THEN, I can flip them! It's all going according to plan, ooo-aaah!"

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. He moved the goal post to the candidate having pledged delegate majority, since Hillary has more
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jun 2016

than a majority of pledged delegates then it is impossible for him to receive a majority.

stopbush

(24,376 posts)
7. Worse, some of his surrogates have suggested that Hillary needed to hit 2383 counting only
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jun 2016

pledged delegates!

That would mean that she needed to win 59% of the pledged delegates.

In other words, if Sanders got 42% of the pledged delegates, it's "Game On!" for a contested convention because "she didn't get enough pledged delegates."

Despicable.

Cha

(295,900 posts)
10. Now he's lying about the vote count in California.. like that's going to make a differnce
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

whether he goes back to Vermont or goes back to Vermont.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Hopefully after next Tuesday he can move on to working on the GE, we have lots of work ahead and
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jun 2016

having everyone working together will be wonderful. Defeating Trump is a goal we should all strive to complete.

stopbush

(24,376 posts)
9. I don't trust him. I'd rather he just went back to the Senate and/or took the summer off.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

He's a loose cannon who is overly impressed with himself. I can see every kind word he would say about Hillary couched in a mountain of disclaimers.

stopbush

(24,376 posts)
16. I'd say that there's a need to maybe give the appearance of negotiating.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

But one has to ask - what other loser has ever felt entitled to dictate terms to the winner, especially when that person lost badly?

I can see a negotiation where Sanders says, "the Dems need to start looking out for the middle class!" where the response is, "yeah, we've been doing that for decades. Next issue." "The Dems need to get serious about climate change!" "Yep, already doing that. Where have you been? Anything else?"

But it sets a very bad precedent to cave in to a person who - at best - achieved a minority of support in the party he couldn't be bothered to join until it was advantageous to his chances.

And I am not convinced that Hillary "needs" all of those Sanders voters to win. She won at least 55% of the primary vote. Of the 45% Sanders won, 85% of them say they'll vote for Hillary. That means that 93% of people who voted in the D primaries WILL vote for Hillary. Does she really need that final 5-7% of BoB Sanders zealots to win? With Trump as her opponent, Rs openly saying they'll vote for Hillary, and Trump facing massive shortfalls in the women and minority votes, does she really need to appease those die-hard Sanders voters? I don't think so.

texstad79

(115 posts)
17. Spot on!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jun 2016

She already has all the Bernie supporters she will need.

The remainder won't vote for her no matter how much she compromises.

Cha

(295,900 posts)
8. Don't you worry about a damn thing burnie.. Hillary's going to be moving this
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

country FORWARD.

President Is going to be helping Black kids in his retirement and you'll do what you've always done.

2naSalit

(86,048 posts)
15. Did he and Jane
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jun 2016

ever come with up their taxes for us to see?

The more I see and hear from him he seems more like spiteful old curmudgeon who is also a misogynist.

Where are the taxes he's promised to produce?

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