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DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 02:33 AM Jul 2016

chris matthews asked a repub last

night and another one tonight (no one famous) why there's so much hate against hillary.

last night he got a response that it went back to the 80s when she decided to use the name hillary rodham. said many people in arkansas were not happy with that. then he went on and on.

tonight the person brought up benghazi to which matthews replied that she had been cleared. so he went back to whitewater, etc. the clintons actually lost money on that deal, but it prompted an investigation and the rest is history.

the only thing bill was convicted of was lying about lewinsky, but they blame hillary for her husband's indiscretions.

what bothers me most is so many people believe the lies the repubs put out there.

how can we get the truth out there.

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chris matthews asked a repub last (Original Post) DesertFlower Jul 2016 OP
Keep telling it DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #1
+ a million or so! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #3
On Benghazi the military has said they could not have gotten there in time, they don't Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #2
don't fool yourself...truth doen't matter to zealots beachbum bob Jul 2016 #4
The truth is out there. Aristus Jul 2016 #5
That republican-lies have become truth in our country, tells us our M$M has failed in their BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #6
I think it is a losing battle for several reasons - Native Jul 2016 #7
It is frustrating. Makes me so angry how complain jane Jul 2016 #8

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. On Benghazi the military has said they could not have gotten there in time, they don't
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:21 AM
Jul 2016

Believe reality. Lies from RW is what they believe.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. don't fool yourself...truth doen't matter to zealots
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 08:33 AM
Jul 2016

.....and those who make the difference already know the rhetoric is crap. All we need to do is get off our asses and vote. Conservatives lose when democrats vote

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
5. The truth is out there.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jul 2016

Man's capacity to believe is incredible.

Man's capacity to disbelieve is mind-boggling.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
6. That republican-lies have become truth in our country, tells us our M$M has failed in their
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jul 2016

fiduciary responsibilities as our fourth estate (and watchdog of the rich and powerful).

The abundance of lies about the Clintons, President Obama, and any and all Democrats are rarely if ever challenged, and when they're finally "corrected", this happens days sometimes weeks later, and those corrections usually end up on page A-26 or deeper buried in print, and only barely mentioned (most times quickly mumbled and then forgotten) by talking heads on teevee.

This has got to change.

Native

(5,936 posts)
7. I think it is a losing battle for several reasons -
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jul 2016

1) So many Trump supporters are racist, misogynist, and sexist. If you give them proof positive, they will refuse to believe you. It is as simple as that.
2) Trump knew early on that a shit storm of major proportions would get out in the media about his past crap, so he started with the "media can't be trusted" campaign almost from the beginning.
3) If you have your supporters believe that the media simply can't be trusted, where else do they have to turn for information (the truth)?

Personally, in my experience here in red country, it just doesn't matter. These people will ONLY listen to what they want to hear. I'm a woman, a nice one, and I never ram my opinions down other people's throats, but the times when I've stood up for Hillary and Obama because the hatred was so incredible (and I felt relatively safe in a public environment), I've been physically threatened. It doesn't matter what you say or how you phrase it, their minds are closed shut.

I'm simply waiting for them to all die off. I really think the majority of this vitriol is coming from old, white men.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
8. It is frustrating. Makes me so angry how
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jul 2016

people that I know are so convinced of misinformation about Hillary. And they swear they know best and get indignant when I correct them (even providing sources).

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