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SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:19 PM Sep 2016

No, MSM, Clinton Supporters did NOT start birtherism, it was started by GOPer Andy Martin.

Last edited Sat Sep 17, 2016, 12:01 AM - Edit history (1)

As Chris Hayes told Trump campaign strategist A.J. Delgado on Monday when she repeated the lie that Hillary started the birther movement in 2008, in fact it was a man named Andy Martin, a Republican (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin), who started the birtherism campaign against Obama in 2004.

As reported by the NY Times:

Theories about Mr. Obama’s background have taken on a life of their own. But independent analysts seeking the origins of the cyberspace attacks wind up at Mr. Martin’s first press release, posted on the Free Republic Web site in August 2004.

Its general outlines have turned up in a host of works that have expounded falsely on Mr. Obama’s heritage or supposed attempts to conceal it, including “Obama Nation,” the widely discredited best seller about Mr. Obama by Jerome R. Corsi. Mr. Corsi opens the book with a quote from Mr. Martin.

“What he’s generating gets picked up in other places,” said Danielle Allen, a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, N.J., who has investigated the e-mail campaign’s circulation and origins, “and it’s an example of how the Internet has given power to sources we would have never taken seriously at another point in time.”

Ms. Allen said Mr. Martin’s original work found amplification in 2006, when a man named Ted Sampley wrote an article painting Mr. Obama as a secret practitioner of Islam. Quoting liberally from Mr. Martin, the article circulated on the Internet, and its contents eventually found their way into various e-mail messages, particularly an added claim that Mr. Obama had attended “Jakarta’s Muslim Wahhabi schools. Wahhabism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging jihad on the rest of the world.”
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html

And while Hillary explicitly told her supporters and campaign staff not to repeat the rumor (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/16/trump-proves-clinton-not-birther.html), this is what Andy Martin did in 2008:

On October 17, 2008, Martin filed a lawsuit against the state of Hawaii calling for the public release of Barack Obama's birth certificate and other vital records.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin


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No, MSM, Clinton Supporters did NOT start birtherism, it was started by GOPer Andy Martin. (Original Post) SunSeeker Sep 2016 OP
k&r Little Star Sep 2016 #1
K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2016 #2
"Conservatives" are liars Cary Sep 2016 #3
Trump can not tell the truth, now he wants to blame his birthism on Hillary, she did not start it, Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #4
Freepers. Of course. Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #5
The fact that he is trying to blame it on HRC shows that he knows that Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #6
Good point! nt SunSeeker Sep 2016 #7

Cary

(11,746 posts)
3. "Conservatives" are liars
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 08:55 AM
Sep 2016

They have no integrity and no shame. How anyone believes any of them is beyond me.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Trump can not tell the truth, now he wants to blame his birthism on Hillary, she did not start it,
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 12:50 PM
Sep 2016

she did not instruct Trump to push this, she did not say his name with emphasis on his middle name, Trump is passing his errors and not accepting responsibility. As Dr Phil says, you can't change what you do not acknowledge, Trump can't change this discussion because he is not taking responsibility.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
6. The fact that he is trying to blame it on HRC shows that he knows that
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:42 AM
Sep 2016

this was a malicious stunt on his part. If he was proud of it he would never give credit to someone else & even less to Sec. Clinton.

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