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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 09:36 PM Nov 2017

Joe Doesn't Know: First-Hand Thoughts and Reflections on a "Joyless" Campaign

Joe Doesn't Know: First-Hand Thoughts and Reflections on a "Joyless" Campaign
Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign was many things.


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It was hard. It was tough. It was challenging. It was time-consuming. It was exhilarating. It was thrilling. It was frustrating. It was nerve-wracking. It was scary. It was confusing. It was hopeful. It was terrifying. It was exhausting. In short, it was everything you'd expect a presidential campaign to be.

And it was never joyless.

Despite what former Vice-President Joe Biden may have stated in his recent Vanity Fair interview, I for one, can attest to the fact that the Clinton campaign brought thousands of us great joy along with great sorrow. There were extreme highs and lows, sometimes only hours apart. There was so much beyond our control from what surrogates said, to what the candidates themselves said, to the logistics and weather for campaign events, to the division of time and resources based on what was needed, to the closing and/or reopening of GOTV staging locations, to the last-minute transfer of hundreds of organizers days before Election Day. We did all this, and rolled with the punches, because we believed in that the work we were doing and were willing to do whatever it took to help elect Hillary Clinton as the 45th president of the United States of America.

This kind of work is undeniably difficult. But you don't do it if you don't find joy in the work. For five months, I was able to find great joy despite working 70-80 hours a week in the hot, Florida sun. I was not alone in this as I was part of a Florida team that brought over 600 staff members to the Sunshine State, with 90% of them working as field staff in every corner of the state from Tallahassee to the Keys. In Palm Beach County alone, we had nearly 40 organizers who joined the campaign from places such as California, Texas, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, D.C., and even London. Some organizers had been with the campaign for well over a year and some joined during the last two months. Some took time off from work, others took time off from school, and some, like myself, specifically sought out work on the campaign and rearranged our lives in order to do so. Regardless of how we got there, we were united behind a common cause and that cause was to elect Hillary Rodham Clinton as president of the United States.

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Joe Doesn't Know: First-Hand Thoughts and Reflections on a "Joyless" Campaign (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 OP
I loved her campaign and the goodness and joy it gave off. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #1
I had started to read Joe's article but could not finish. I thought riversedge Nov 2017 #2
Joe Biden has had a habit of saying and doing radical noodle Nov 2017 #4
Indeed. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #6
And, I use to stick up for Cha Dec 2017 #13
Hi Cha! radical noodle Dec 2017 #14
Mahalo, rad.. Cha Dec 2017 #15
Who is the speaker? (nt) question everything Nov 2017 #3
Trevor LaFauci Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #5
I finally began listening to Hillary's book What Happened FloridaBlues Nov 2017 #7
I was a volunteer in Florida radical noodle Nov 2017 #8
Yes we were too ESP this red county and the trumpets FloridaBlues Nov 2017 #10
Yes! radical noodle Nov 2017 #11
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2017 #9
I think that men have a different notion of what "joy" looks like than women ehrnst Nov 2017 #12
I hate it when people say she was an "uninspiring" candidate Sparkly Dec 2017 #16
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
1. I loved her campaign and the goodness and joy it gave off.
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 09:38 PM
Nov 2017

With me too. I loved her campaign and the goodness and joy it gave off. I could sense the decency in HRC and all of us in her camp. We were excited. I cried so many times watching the DNC convention. I was with her. I was ready!

riversedge

(69,708 posts)
2. I had started to read Joe's article but could not finish. I thought
Sun Nov 5, 2017, 09:45 PM
Nov 2017

it strange he would say such a nasty thing.


...............As someone who experienced living history firsthand on November 4, 2008, one would hope that Joe Biden would have a sense for the ups and downs that even successful campaigns go through. For him to categorize the entire Clinton campaign as "joyless" is an insult to the hundreds of thousands of dedicated staff and volunteers who gave up so much blood, sweat, and tears to help make history in 2016. At the very least, Biden should have seen the excitement as his own campaign events. That excitement was not created in a vacuum but was a reflection of the campaign from the top down. In Florida and across the country, Hillary Clinton inspired millions of people to get involved in the campaign from being part of her staff to volunteering to simply casting a vote for her at the ballot box. You don't run a campaign that earns the third most votes in history without bringing joy to millions and millions of people throughout the county.

And Joe Biden, of all people, should know that.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
13. And, I use to stick up for
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 07:31 AM
Dec 2017

him.. but this kind of bullshit is defenseless. If he wants to run for President tearing Hillary down built on lies.. he's in for a rude awakening.

Hi rad!

FloridaBlues

(3,992 posts)
7. I finally began listening to Hillary's book What Happened
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:45 PM
Nov 2017

I can only listen for short times due to all the emotion it brings up during the campaign and how hard we worked locally to get the vote out. We never felt joyless we worked hard with hope for the future, not a joyless spirit.
Perhaps Joe needs to listen or read the book.
I love all the quotes she sites.

radical noodle

(7,990 posts)
8. I was a volunteer in Florida
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 04:38 PM
Nov 2017

The only thing that was joyless in our group was that they were verbally attacked by Trump voters sometimes. We even had people coming from California and New York to help. Joyless my ass.

FloridaBlues

(3,992 posts)
10. Yes we were too ESP this red county and the trumpets
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 08:33 PM
Nov 2017

But that wouldn't stop us. Now we need to keep Sen Nelson in place

radical noodle

(7,990 posts)
11. Yes!
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 10:45 PM
Nov 2017

I don't know who is running against him. Who do you like for governor? I like the mayor of Tallahassee, Andrew Gillum, but admit there's not much out there yet about any others.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. I think that men have a different notion of what "joy" looks like than women
Fri Nov 10, 2017, 05:19 PM
Nov 2017

And it doesn't involve having lots of sex with co-workers.

A safe space for women apparently looks different than a "joyful space" to men.


“When I was tiptoeing around the muffled Clinton headquarters I thought of what my friend [former Democratic Rep.] Tony Coelho used to ask me about my campaigns. He’d always ask, ‘Are the kids fucking? Are they having sex? Are they having fun? If not, let’s create something to get that going, or otherwise we’re not going to win,'” Brazile wrote in her book “Hacks,” released Tuesday

“I didn’t see much fun or fucking in Brooklyn,” she wrote."

https://epeak.in/2017/11/09/dear-donna/

Sparkly

(24,141 posts)
16. I hate it when people say she was an "uninspiring" candidate
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 09:32 PM
Dec 2017

(or worse).

I was part of the 1/21/17 Women's March. (I got to shake her hand at the Million Mom March when she was running for the Senate!) I KNOW she inspired many, many MANY of us no matter how often we hear the backlash.

And I'm really sick of hearing one white man after another touted as the "one who could have won," or the "one for 2020."

Alabama. Virginia. Grassroots elections everywhere... She might not be president, but it doesn't look like the energy HRC inspired is going away anytime soon.

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