Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumIn less than 12 hours, Dailybeast completely shoots down "HillaryEmailGate."
... The (NY Times) article says that there were new regulations that Clinton was supposed to abide by. It notes that one past secretary of state, Colin Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, sometimes used his personal email account before the new regulations went into effect.
A key question would seem to be this: When did the new regulations go into effect? Oddly, the Times article doesnt say. It doesnt pin the new regs down to a specific date or even year.
Now, I know enough about reporting to know how this works. If youve got an airtight case, then you lay it all out there. You include the date. Indeed you emphasize the date, you put it high up in your story. The fact that its not in there is a little fishy.
Well, this might be the explanation: The new regs apparently werent fully implemented by State until a year and half after Clinton left State. Heres the timeline: Clinton left the State Department on February 1, 2013. Back in 2011, President Obama had signed a memorandum directing the update of federal records management. But the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) didnt issue the relevant guidance, declaring that email records of senior government officials are permanent federal records, until August 2013. Then, in September 2013, NARA issued guidance on personal email use. A senior State Department official emailed me to say that in October 2014, a Department-wide notice was sent out which explained each employees responsibilities for records management. Consistent with 2013 NARA guidance, it included instructions that generally employees should not use personal email for the transaction of government business, but that in the very limited circumstances when it is necessary, all records must be forwarded to a government account or otherwise preserved in the Departments electronic records systems.
So if these new regulations went into effect after she left State, then what rule did she violate, exactly? And, if this is true, why did the Times not share this rather crucial piece of information with its readers? No one could possibly argue that this fact isnt germane to the story. Its absolutely central to it. Why would the Times leave it out?
The Times article says the existence of Mrs. Clintons personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi. This is incorrect. Gawker reported this first, in March 2013. At the time Clinton was Secretary, the Federal Records Act didnt require federal employees to use government accounts, only to preserve records of their communications. This, Clinton seems to have done.
This seems like a good time to remember another pattern of behavior: namely, that of the Times. I remember clear as a bell reading that initial Jeff Gerth story on Whitewater back in March 1992. It seemed devastating. It took many millions of dollars and many years and many phony allegations before important parts of Gerths reporting were debunked. But they were. The Clintons did nothing wrong on Whitewater except to be naïve enough to let themselves by chiseled by Jim McDougal.
If they had done something wrong, with all the prosecutorial firepower thrown at them by a prosecutor (Ken Starr) who clearly hated them, dont you think theyd have been indicted? Of course they would have been. But Starr couldnt turn anything up on Whitewater and was about to close down his investigation empty-handed until he got wind of a gal named Monica.
So thats a pattern too. The Times, for those with short memories, has never loved the Clintons. Remember Howell Raines and his ceaseless, thundering editorials against them. And today, it smells like the Times may have been rolled by the Republican staff of the Benghazi panel. And hey, great work by them and Chairman Trey Gowdy to use the nations leading liberal newspaper in this way.
Times has some questions to answer: Did you know that the new regs went into effect after Clinton left office? And if you didnt, why not? And if you did, why did you leave that fact out of the story? One can imagine Clinton coming up with decent answers to her questions, but its kind of hard to see how the Times can.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)being busy pissing in the wind.
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Should have sounded more welcoming. Sorry.
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Always ready to believe the worst.
William769
(55,144 posts)There are people saying otherwise.
It's a fucking smear campaign out of a Republican playbook and they had the wind knocked right out of their sails!
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)...but I got a post hidden for calling a progressive a "proooogresssiiivvveee."
William769
(55,144 posts)Hang in their it's going to get bumpy but the end result is worth it.
Number23
(24,544 posts)but even if she were to drink goat's blood and howl at the moon in the middle of Trafalgar Square I'd still have her back in light of these really mindless, stupid attacks on her from the folks here that bray the loudest about being the "Democratic base" while doing nothing but crapping all over this woman.
The new tactic is outrage that her email use may have "compromised national security" and it's already been noted that much of this comes from people that couldn't clap loud enough when Snowden actively and deliberately did the same thing.
Cha
(296,848 posts)private emails and not Breaking Any Laws.. then the pitchforks are out.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)riversedge
(70,084 posts)holding hearings on this issue. dam!
William769
(55,144 posts)Show them for what they really are.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Whereas, the Times is the clear purveyor of non-partisan truth ... these days.
CanonRay
(14,084 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)1) The biggest rightwing idiot I've ever encountered (on another bb)
2) FoxNews and their adoring internet blogosphere
3) A helluva lot of willing dupes here at DU. "See what I mean? It's just Hillary being Hillary!"
There's a certain high profile DUer who, if he had a shred of self respect, would close his thread and offer an apology. Ain't gonna happen.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)to go back and correct themselves. Morning Joe went on and on about this in the morning, wonder if Mika and Joe will correct themselves tomorrow. Shameful and hateful with their reporter who revealed this information, guess it never occurred for him to get the dates correct. Another reporter trying to be just like O'Reilly.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But some just won't let go and it is amusing watching them grasp at straws.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It's a conspiracy.
okasha
(11,573 posts)It was on something called USA News this afternoon on the radio. Probably Fox under an alias.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Don't be a stranger!