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Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:28 AM

Washington Post Editorial Board: Clinton pays an unfair price for nuanced policy response. (HRC)

The convential wisdom about Saturday night’s Democratic presidential debate is that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton, the front-runner, committed a number of gaffes that might come back to haunt her. This demonstrates that the perception of how candidates “do” in debates has little or no relation to the substance of their words.

Ms. Clinton is paying a price for attempting to inject a modicum of policy nuance into a discussion with two opponents, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, who are trailing her and have nothing to lose by spouting undiluted populism. On the minimum wage, for example, Mr. Sanders and Mr. O’Malley insisted that it be raised over time to $15 per hour, even after the questioner posited that a leading Democratic labor economist, Alan Krueger, believes the costs in lost jobs of such a huge increase, from the current level of $7.25, could outweigh the benefits. Their answers boiled down to: “I don’t care what the leading expert says, I want $15.” So much for evidence-based policy-making....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-sensible-gaffes/2015/11/16/80eb1174-8c9f-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html?postshare=7711447730947020&tid=ss_tw via Washington Post

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Reply Washington Post Editorial Board: Clinton pays an unfair price for nuanced policy response. (HRC) (Original post)
DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 OP
BootinUp Nov 2015 #1
Cha Nov 2015 #2
DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #3
riversedge Nov 2015 #5
brer cat Nov 2015 #4
Cha Nov 2015 #6
BooScout Nov 2015 #7
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #8

Response to DeepModem Mom (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:36 AM

1. That was on point.

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Response to DeepModem Mom (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:46 AM

2. Ms. Clinton is paying a price for attempting to inject a modicum of policy nuance into a discussion

with two opponents, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, who are trailing her and have nothing to lose by spouting undiluted populism"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-sensible-gaffes/2015/11/16/80eb1174-8c9f-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html?postshare=7711447730947020&tid=ss_tw via Washington Post

Fuck yeah! 'Cuse my cussing, DM M..

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:52 AM

3. LOL!!!

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Response to DeepModem Mom (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:17 AM

5. Yup-->Sanders and O'M "spouting undiluted populism"

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Response to DeepModem Mom (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:51 AM

4. I agree.

A bit OT, but the last sentence was a nice zing: It’s hyperbolic to assert, as Mr. Sanders does, that “the business model of Wall Street is fraud” — though if he had been talking about politics, he might have had a stronger point.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:05 AM

6. Oh wow.. I had to read that a couple of times to get it.. you're right.. bern!

"It’s hyperbolic to assert, as Mr. Sanders does, that “the business model of Wall Street is fraud” — though if he had been talking about politics, he might have had a stronger point."

Bernie? Hyperbolic? Say it isn't so!!

brer cat

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Response to DeepModem Mom (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:33 PM

7. Essentially it's about sound bites vs reality

Sanders and O'Malley will say anything at this point that will grab people's attention....while Hillary on the other hand speaks about actual reality based ideas and policy.

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Response to DeepModem Mom (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:43 AM

8. BS and MOM can say anything, but HRC is looking ahead and wants to keep promises.

She doesn't want to say stuff she knows she can't do once in office. But BS and MOM don't have that issue. They will never be in the oval office.

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