Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:36 PM
Cha (269,197 posts)
Compare Hillary's & MO'M's Statement on the PCCA to BS's and check out the Tweets
"And, I’m quite impressed with Sec Clinton’s statement …"
![]() ![]() @HillaryClinton Hillary's statement on the Paris climate change agreement: 11:36 AM - 12 Dec 2015 792 792 Retweets 1,307 1,307 likes Martin O'Malley's was very gracious and appreciative, too~ ![]() @MartinOMalley Congrats #COP21 on the #ParisAgreement. The pact sets ambitious goals to fight climate change. As POTUS, I will hold the world to them. -O'M 9:55 AM - 12 Dec 2015 113 113 Retweets 225 225 likes Bernie Sanders @SenSanders While the #ParisAgreement is a step forward it goes nowhere near far enough. The planet is in crisis. We need bold action now. ![]() @RightonCarl @SenSanders your lack of graciousness & support for this historic agreement is noted we look forward to your magic pixie dust presidency 11:10 AM - 12 Dec 2015 25 25 Retweets 13 13 likes ![]() ![]() POTUS has worked nearly 2 terms raising US climate performance, almost 200 countries unite, but not "bold" enough? https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/675774792121909248 … ![]() @Kat4Obama Sanders is incapable of understanding incremental change, historic over time. His reflex is to whine & project bitter disappointment. 12:51 PM - 12 Dec 2015 21 21 Retweets 13 13 likes NAILED IT! ![]() ![]() Jobs? Obamacare? Iran deal? Cuba? Marriage Equality? Keystone? Climate deal Lame duck? ![]() For a fella with an abysmal legislative record @BernieSanders, You should learn to be humble & grateful for @POTUS. h/t @TheObamaDiary 3:13 PM - 12 Dec 2015 15 15 Retweets 8 8 likes ![]() Another statement on Sander's reaction to Paris Climate Change Agreement~ jackiegrumbacher
December 12, 2015 at 9:29 pm Bernie Sanders simply doesn’t know when to be gracious or how to be respectful of others, which in and of itself disqualifies him for the presidency. He could not accomplish one millionth of what President Obama has done and only knows how to carp and minimize the work of others. He’s an irritating, petulant curmudgeon ![]() [font color=blue] Oh and Bonus from the President and his Team..[/font] How US negotiators ensured landmark Paris climate deal was Republican-proof At 11.30pm Paris time, a small group of White House officials dashed into a temporary plywood hut in the exhibition hall where, a few hours earlier, a historic legal agreement to cut emissions causing climate change was secured. They were just in time to catch a live feed of Barack Obama declaring “a turning point for the world”. These were the officials who helped set the US negotiating position for the talks – or, perhaps more accurately, helped craft the deal according to US specifications in order to insulate Obama and the agreement from attacks. When it came to Republicans in Congress, they wanted the agreement to be bullet-proof. That was no easy feat in a negotiation over an immensely complicated challenge involving nearly 200 countries, and half a dozen rival negotiating blocs. “We met the moment,” Obama said in his address. The Paris agreement on its own would not end climate change, he said, but “this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change, and will pave the way for even more progress, in successive stages, over the coming years”. The rest of the fascinating story.. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/13/climate-change-paris-deal-cop21-obama-administration-congress-republicans-environment?CMP=share_btn_tw [font color=blue]Hillary's Group~Mahalo[/font] ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Cha | Dec 2015 | OP |
Thinkingabout | Dec 2015 | #1 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #4 | |
Rose Siding | Dec 2015 | #2 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #5 | |
George II | Dec 2015 | #3 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #6 | |
Cassiopeia | Dec 2015 | #7 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #10 | |
ismnotwasm | Dec 2015 | #32 | |
shenmue | Dec 2015 | #8 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #11 | |
Iliyah | Dec 2015 | #9 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #12 | |
Skidmore | Dec 2015 | #13 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #14 | |
MADem | Dec 2015 | #15 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #16 | |
Tarheel_Dem | Dec 2015 | #22 | |
riversedge | Dec 2015 | #17 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #18 | |
NurseJackie | Dec 2015 | #19 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #20 | |
Tarheel_Dem | Dec 2015 | #21 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #23 | |
misterhighwasted | Dec 2015 | #37 | |
Starry Messenger | Dec 2015 | #43 | |
riversedge | Dec 2015 | #24 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #25 | |
Gothmog | Dec 2015 | #26 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #28 | |
stonecutter357 | Dec 2015 | #27 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #29 | |
Walk away | Dec 2015 | #30 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #35 | |
ismnotwasm | Dec 2015 | #31 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #36 | |
misterhighwasted | Dec 2015 | #33 | |
yallerdawg | Dec 2015 | #34 | |
misterhighwasted | Dec 2015 | #38 | |
yallerdawg | Dec 2015 | #40 | |
misterhighwasted | Dec 2015 | #41 | |
misterhighwasted | Dec 2015 | #39 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #42 | |
mcar | Dec 2015 | #44 | |
Cha | Dec 2015 | #46 | |
Coolest Ranger | Dec 2015 | #45 | |
kjones | Dec 2015 | #47 |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:43 PM
Thinkingabout (30,058 posts)
1. Getting the leaders from almost 200 countries together to discuss climate issues is a win win.
Getting some agreements to control the climate affecting issues is a real beginning. Hillary had a very good statement, she is on target.
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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:02 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
4. SOS Hillary has the best statement on the Paris Climate Change Agreement, T! From her
experience in the field of negotiations and her experience as President Obama's SOS.. she knows the many years and diligent focus that went into this.
It's not to be taken lightly.. it's a BFD as VP Biden would say.. and at least one writer is saying when he wrote about the President's accomplishment on the #PCCA.. http://www.democraticunderground.com/110231992 Thank you! |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:46 PM
Rose Siding (32,623 posts)
2. No comparison, is there?
One complains without recourse, others address the issue and a plan for success.
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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #2)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:14 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
5. Exacty Rose! There is no comparison.. Hillary's statement is as a future President who knows
what it takes to actually go through negotiations with all the countries represented and how she can build on that when she is POTUS.. and the other statement cavalierly says it's not good enough, basically.
Fortunately for the Planet it won't matter a bit whether he appreciates it or not. |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:54 PM
George II (60,661 posts)
3. Well researched and crafted...thanks. As noted above..
...just getting almost 200 countries in one place is a huge feat, getting them to agree is unprecedented.
And Clinton is on the money with her comments. Brava! |
Response to George II (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:21 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
6. Isn't Hillary's statement on the #PCAA just magnificent?! It makes me so glad I'm
supporting her. It's very Presidential to be.. very inclusive..
“The Paris agreement is testament to America’s ability to lead the world in building a clean energy future where no one is left out or left behind. And it was made possible in part by every person, business owner, and community in the United States and around the world that stepped up to prove we don’t have to choose between growing our economy and protecting our kids’ health and future—we can do both. and on one of my most important issues.. ![]() Thank you, G~ ![]() ![]() |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:38 AM
Cassiopeia (2,603 posts)
7. It's not enough.
That is simply a fact.
Sure, a poke in the eye is a lot better than a knife to the gut, but when we talk about climate change those aren't our choices. We've gone far beyond 'the poke in an eye' even making the top three options. We now need to decide if we're going to slow drastic change enough for technology to adapt or if we throw our hands up and say 'fuck it, we had a damn good time.' Sure, it's a great deal. The air will be a little cleaner, the water a little safer, but we're not addressing the real problems. There's too many of us and we like cheap things that make life easy or fun. We also LOVE cheap food, the wrong food. |
Response to Cassiopeia (Reply #7)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:53 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
10. It's an excellent start 7 years in the making with all the 200 countries that have signed on..
Hillary made a very Presidential to be Statement that is inclusive and grateful for all the work that went into the #Paris Climate Change Agreement.. knowing full well that she will be building on it in her administration.
“The Paris agreement is testament to America’s ability to lead the world in building a clean energy future where no one is left out or left behind. And it was made possible in part by every person, business owner, and community in the United States and around the world that stepped up to prove we don’t have to choose between growing our economy and protecting our kids’ health and future—we can do both." She is very Gracious for all the work that went into making this Global structure to build on and gave credit where it is due.. her experience as President Obama's SOS will be invaluable help in continuing this agreement and making it stronger throughout her time in Office. |
Response to Cassiopeia (Reply #7)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:03 AM
ismnotwasm (40,002 posts)
32. Here's a decent article that addresses why It didn't go farther
That hybrid legal structure was explicitly designed in response to the political reality in the United States. A deal that would have assigned legal requirements for countries to cut emissions at specific levels would need to go before the United States Senate for ratification. That language would have been dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate, where many members question the established science of human-caused climate change, and still more wish to thwart Mr. Obama’s climate change agenda.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/world/europe/climate-change-accord-paris.html I also, in courtesy, suggest reading the agreement itself http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:49 AM
Iliyah (24,935 posts)
9. I guess a few can magically make things happen with the 199 countries.
Its a wonderful and hopeful beginning which will with the help of the world countries implement what is needed to help curve global warming. The problem didn't just appear, it took many years.
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Response to Iliyah (Reply #9)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:57 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
12. So very few.. so few
they don't exist!
It's a grand start, Iliyah, well said.. thank you! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 04:55 AM
Skidmore (37,364 posts)
13. I was so happy to see this agreement become reality and
I hope that the nations of the world continue with sincerity toward achieving it. It takes a small and petty person to trash the agreement rather than pushing for its actual implementation and furthering the goals it embodies. Kudos to President Obama for laying important groundwork for the planet. It has been a herculean effort.
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Response to Skidmore (Reply #13)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:17 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
14. Hillary's statement was very supportive and inclusive, Skidmore.. I like the way you describe
the Paris Climate Change Agreement.. an "herculean effort". Anyone who has been out in the world and had to negotiate with Leaders would know that and not attempt to marginalize it in order to sound omnipotent himself.
“The Paris agreement is testament to America’s ability to lead the world in building a clean energy future where no one is left out or left behind. And it was made possible in part by every person, business owner, and community in the United States and around the world that stepped up to prove we don’t have to choose between growing our economy and protecting our kids’ health and future—we can do both." Thank you. |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:23 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
15. OMG, that entire string of comments is hilarious--each one funnier than the next!!!
I'm convinced the guy is not really interested in winning--who says stuff like that? It's tone deaf, it's undiplomatic....it's .... curmudgeonly!!!!!
When I hit this picture I just lost it... ![]() ![]() |
Response to MADem (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:48 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
16. Grumpy cat.. LOL! poor little thing. Looks like somebody took his toy.
They are funny.. you don't mess around dissing the President and everyone else on this Planet, who worked so many years on this, without getting called out good and proper.
He doesn't want to give credit to anyone else but himself.. when he's had 30 or whatever years and what has he done? I think we know what all the President has accomplished. What's his problem ? Thinks if he acknowledges the achievements.. it will help Hillary? Yeah it will but that would be the honorable thing to do.. instead he's running against Hillary and President Obama.. tearing them both down. good luck with that. Hillary's statement was magnificent, her heart and soul was in it.. so what a future President would say, who cares deeply about our country and the Planet. |
Response to MADem (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:52 AM
Tarheel_Dem (30,911 posts)
22. OMG! That pic is priceless.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:53 AM
riversedge (60,092 posts)
17. Thanks for all your work in pulling this together cha. Wonderful to read.
Response to riversedge (Reply #17)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:55 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
18. You're Welcome, Riversedge! I'm glad you got to see it..
I know how busy you are!
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:15 AM
NurseJackie (37,577 posts)
19. Excellent compilation. (TYVM!)
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #19)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:26 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
20. You're absolutely Welcome, Jackie.. my distinct pleasure!
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 07:51 AM
Tarheel_Dem (30,911 posts)
21. Bobfr @Our4thEstate hit it out of the park.
For a fella with an abysmal legislative record @BernieSanders, You should learn to be humble & grateful for @POTUS.
h/t @TheObamaDiary 3:13 PM - 12 Dec 2015 15 15 Retweets 8 8 likes BS appears to be doing everything in his power to further alienate the Obama coalition. Maybe he thinks he can win over Trump supporters, cuz he sure as hell ain't winning me. ![]() Other than speechifying and taking home a regular government paycheck, WTF does BS have to show for decades of loafing around Washington? ![]() |
Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #21)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:05 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
23. I know Bob did! That's one reason I wanted to get this
out there, Tarheel. To give a sample of what these Tweeters in the Obama Coalition think of this.
they are a force to be reckoned with.. they do not mess around when it comes to anyone dissing the President. Sanders could have gone about this whole campaign so differently and they would have been for him.. instead.. all the moves he's made against the President have only strengthened their resistance to him. And now this. Well, good for us.. they were certainly impressed with Hillary's gracious, inclusive statement on the #PCCA. ![]() |
Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #21)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:49 AM
misterhighwasted (9,148 posts)
37. + 10000 This ^
.."collecting a gov't check & loafing around Washington"
That right there describes his 25 yr career. Well that and that MIC Contract that netted Wall St investors a handsome return on the overbloated F-35. Trickle down economics of bernie. Ya know the more he speaks the more he reveals just who's side he aligns with. He really never ever has been a DEM. It shows louder every day as he grumbles his way through his pathetic campaign. 28% bernie has the audacity to condemn the success of President Obama's Paris agreement. For a fella with an abysmal legislative record @BernieSanders, You should learn to be humble & grateful for @POTUS. h/t @TheObamaDiary 3:13 PM - 12 Dec 2015 15 15 Retweets 8 8 likes |
Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #21)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:49 AM
Starry Messenger (32,326 posts)
43. Good point.
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:08 AM
riversedge (60,092 posts)
24. The elf is busy-- A big REC and delighted to do so.
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Response to riversedge (Reply #24)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:12 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
25. Mahalo Hillary's Helper!
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:14 AM
Gothmog (92,137 posts)
26. Great post
Thanks for posting
This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #26)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:27 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
28. You're Welcome, Gothmog.. the President says it himself..
“We met the moment,” Obama said in his address. The Paris agreement on its own would not end climate change, he said, but “this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change, and will pave the way for even more progress, in successive stages, over the coming years”.
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #27)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:31 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
29. Thank you, stonecutter!
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:47 AM
Walk away (9,494 posts)
30. Bernie Sanders is "an irritating, petulant curmudgeon"
That pretty much sums up how most people are feeling these days. He is losing his shine as the race tightens up (if "tightening up" means he's still 20% behind the front runner). Instead of looking stronger when he confronts an opponent, he just seems like an ineffective complainer. Perhaps he is!
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Response to Walk away (Reply #30)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:43 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
35. So many people worked so long and diligently on this and Hillary recognizes that..
Sanders' tweet was disrespectful and curmudgeony, showing he hasn't a clue about the historical significance of what just happened.
“We met the moment,” Obama said in his address. The Paris agreement on its own would not end climate change, he said, but “this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change, and will pave the way for even more progress, in successive stages, over the coming years”. It's like Obamacare for the Planet.. not perfect to start but a good solid foundation from which to build. The Paris Climate Deal Is President Obama’s Biggest Accomplishment http://www.democraticunderground.com/110231992 Thank you, Walk away~ |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:54 AM
ismnotwasm (40,002 posts)
31. "Magic pixie dust presidency"
Hilarious!
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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #31)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:45 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
36. Some people just
get it.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:32 AM
misterhighwasted (9,148 posts)
33. .."petulant curmudgeon". Nailed That One!
Perpetual madface has zero negotiating skills & zero diplomatic skills necessary to engage world leaders.
What a completely disgusting statement to make. But that's his entire campaign strategy isn't it? Dead end oneliners with absolutely NO follow through. Ugh! |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:35 AM
yallerdawg (16,104 posts)
34. If you watched the (R) debates last night...
you know whose name never came up not even once?
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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #34)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:55 AM
misterhighwasted (9,148 posts)
38. He's irrelevant. There's a reason no one cares to know who he is.
He should stick to small town mayor & his cozy 25 yr senate seat.
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Response to misterhighwasted (Reply #38)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:16 AM
yallerdawg (16,104 posts)
40. Around here you'd think he was next POTUS.
If the Republicans don't even give him a mention, just how over is the Democratic primary?
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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #40)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:30 AM
misterhighwasted (9,148 posts)
41. Truth. +1000^
He's a disgrace to the DEM name.
Just go home already. He's like that one person you invite to dinner, set a lovely table, work all day to prepare the meal, overspend on just the best cut of meat & freshest food. And that one person at the table criticizes every single thing from napkins to dessert ruing the evening for you & everyone else. This isn't good enough. More salt, less pepper, yellow potatoes over red, bla bla bla. We all know someone at dinner or at work that can never just say "Thank You for you sincere effort, your concern, your success." Grumble on bernie. Just go home already. Yuk. |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:16 AM
misterhighwasted (9,148 posts)
39. Cha, thank you for this OP.
He is a disgrace
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Response to misterhighwasted (Reply #39)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:42 AM
Cha (269,197 posts)
42. You're Welcome, mister.. thank you! I just love what Hillary had to say about it..
And, President Obama, too.. they know how many people have come together to make this happen.. as a strong structural foundation for the health of our Planet.
And, the US republicans can't do anything about it. I know we're going to continue to be in good hands. |
Response to mcar (Reply #44)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:09 PM
Cha (269,197 posts)
46. Mahalo mcar~
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:14 PM
Coolest Ranger (2,034 posts)
45. Why can't posts like this
make it to the greatest page or trending page
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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #45)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:11 PM
kjones (1,048 posts)
47. Probably because
most HC supporters are too busy doing things to waste much time tending the "digital BS rec garden"
that DU has become. This place needs a good pruning. |