Bernie Sanders likely wants to raise everyone's taxes to pay for universal health care, but promise

[riversedge]

What is with Sanders?? He is not being honest with the voters. He says his health plan SIMILAR to the legislation he introduced. But how similar? How will it be paid for. Who will pay?? And the other existing programs?? What is their fate? According to this 'plan" they will be rolled into the Universal plan. They will vanish. All he gives out is a few crumbs to different news shows and we are left wondering what the details ARE!! All he leaves for sure is a PROMISE.






Bernie Sanders likely wants to raise everyone's taxes to pay for universal health care, but promises it will be worth it.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/16/news/economy/sanders-health-care-taxes/



The Democratic presidential contender has long promoted a single payer health care system, which would eliminate the private insurance market in favor of a government-run program. He calls it 'Medicare for All.'

Sanders' plan for health insurance is now in the spotlight, with rival Hillary Clinton demanding that he reveal how he'd pay for it. Her campaign contends it would require raising taxes on the middle class by 9%.

Sanders has waffled on whether he'd unveil details before the Iowa caucuses next month, but said the plan would be similar to legislation he introduced in Congress in 2013. Under that proposal, the middle class would ultimately save money, he says. .......................

Sanders' plan hasn't been evaluated by the Congressional Budget Office or major think tanks. But a rough estimate by RAND Senior Policy Researcher Peter Hussey -- using CBO's estimate of total wages and Sanders' tax rates -- found the proposal would probably bring in around $700 billion.

Separately, RAND researchers Chapin White and Virginia Kotzias estimated a single payer program would take a nearly 12% payroll tax to cover costs. Eliminating deductibles and co-pays would make it harder to make the numbers work, especially since it would likely prompt people to go to the doctor more often or get more tests done.

"It would be a very optimistic assumption that you could pay for it with just income and payroll taxes at the level [Sanders] proposed," Hussey said.

[Thinkingabout]

1. For a person on minumin wages at 12% this would be $1800 less a year.

I have to agree with Hillary, low income workers needs a raise and not a decrease.

[lunamagica]

2. K&R. He is not being fair or honest with the voters

I hope to see this issue brought up at tomorrow's debate

[MrChuck]

3. I'm not sure where the disconnect is happening.

Right now, if you have coverage, you're paying for it. It's not free no matter from whence it comes.
The idea behind the mandate for the ACA was to bring down costs based on the size of the pool.
The trouble was that people insisted upon keeping the coverage they have for fear of whatever new coverage they got being inferior.
Whatever.
Universal health care dissolves the private insurance market. Tough beans but its time has passed.
The costs associated with present coverage disappears and the cost to cover the new program reappears as a tax.
The notion that taxes would be higher neglects the fact that the outlay to private insurers is MORE than the tax would be.

[FloridaBlues]

4. Tough beans about dismantling private insurance ?

Bernie and his minions have magical wands to make all his wishes come true.
We can't even get pot holes or roadway funding done.
Let alone sweeping legislation about healthcare and free college.

[MrChuck]

6. Can't

gets nothing done.

[riversedge]

10. well said

[wildeyed]

5. Not tough beans.

Show us the math first, and then we can discuss if the beans are too tough.

We know how single-payer, in theory works. Now Sanders' has the opportunity to tell us, in detail, how his policy will be implemented. This is a fair, adult question to ask a candidate who is running for president. And if he can't explain it to rank and file Democrats, then he will NEVER be able to sell it to a much more conservative crowd in the GE. I speaks directly to his electability, IMO.

[MrChuck]

7. Executives set policy

Legislators make laws.

[wildeyed]

8. Then the executive better be able to explain

the details of the policy and have a plan for getting the votes it needs to pass congress.

[fleabiscuit]

9. Thirty years.

BS has given the same BS speak for 3+ decades. One could correctly assume he'd have some inkling of the details BEFORE he actually entered the race so he could give more than ifs and buts.