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BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:23 AM Jan 2016

Why Is President Obama Embracing Hillary Clinton Now?

This is an interesting read by someone who appears to be a SBS supporter, however one feels about the ultimate conclusion. http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-is-president-obama-embracing-hillary-clinton

A couple of weeks ago, on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Denis McDonough, the White House chief of staff, appeared to indicate that President Obama wouldn’t be backing anyone in the Democratic primary. The President would vote in the Illinois primary, on March 15th, and campaign for whichever candidate emerged from the process, McDonough said. Now, though, Obama has come very close to issuing a public endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
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Was Obama just shooting the breeze with a guest in the Oval Office who happened to be carrying a tape recorder? Hardly. It is much more plausible that the President was sending a supportive message to an embattled candidate whom he sees as the best option to replace him, in order to safeguard the electoral position of the Democratic Party and preserve his legacy as a center-left reformer.

For all the differences they had in 2008, some of which lingered, Obama and Clinton both represent the centrist, pragmatic approach to politics that has dominated the Democratic Party since the nineteen-eighties. A victory for Sanders and his insurgent left-wing populism would represent a sharp break with the moderate tradition. In the opinion of many Democrats in the White House and on Capitol Hill, it would also set up the Party for defeat come November, not just in the Presidential race but in congressional elections. And, from Obama’s perspective, it would place a shadow over his biggest achievements, particularly the Affordable Care Act, which Sanders has described as merely a first step in transforming the health-care system.

If the Republicans win the Presidential election and strengthen their grip on Congress, they are likely to repeal large parts of the Affordable Care Act and roll back many of President Obama’s executive orders in other areas, such as environmental regulation. If Sanders were to become President, he would presumably seek to build on Obama’s policies, but there would still be a significant change in approach. In part to try to prevent either of these things from happening, a number of former Obama Administration officials are working for the Clinton campaign. John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, worked at the White House under Obama. So did Jennifer Palmieri, the Clinton campaign’s director of communications. Joel Benenson, a senior strategist and pollster for the Clinton campaign, carried out a similar role in Obama’s 2008 and 2012 campaigns. The Sanders campaign doesn’t have these sorts of personal ties to the White House.
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Why Is President Obama Embracing Hillary Clinton Now? (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 OP
hmm. Wasn't Hillary SOS under the Obama administration from 2009 - 2013? The title of the article still_one Jan 2016 #1
I know.. typical. Cha Jan 2016 #4
I just had to do a double take still_one Jan 2016 #5
In spite of himself, BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #9
you mentioned that in the OP, which makes your OP even more interesting still_one Jan 2016 #11
Hillary did support and campaing for Obama in 2008 liberal N proud Jan 2016 #2
Yes, she did! And I thought that was incredibly admirable of her. Party over political pettiness, BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #21
That is my biggest problem with Bernie, he is NOT a Democrat liberal N proud Jan 2016 #24
And, I ask.. "Why not?" He has geniune affection and admiration for her.. why not state the Cha Jan 2016 #3
The article certainly isn't overly complimentary BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #7
Maybe President Obama knows Hillary is very capable, Hillary Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #6
Certainly not a new embrace! BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #8
Because she's the only one that will defeat the RW in Nov. misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #10
An unlikely win by Bernie Sanders would be the end of the Democratic party. Walk away Jan 2016 #12
This so-called "revolution" is just a gimmick to get young people oasis Jan 2016 #13
I doubt that Bernie will activly support the Democratic nominee if he isn't comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #14
He OWES it to the Democratic Party. He had better summon up oasis Jan 2016 #15
He won't join hands. He'll just shuffel off in a huff. misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #17
This is also my BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #22
BS supporters have claimed all along that the president has put his thumb on the scale. Let me just Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #16
save it from bernie, please misterhighwasted Jan 2016 #18
YES!!! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #19
Oh yeah.. that's obvious! He cares so much about our Country.. So does Nancy Pelosi~ Cha Jan 2016 #20
Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #23

still_one

(92,138 posts)
1. hmm. Wasn't Hillary SOS under the Obama administration from 2009 - 2013? The title of the article
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jan 2016

seems a little misleading, since the President obviously embraced Hillary when he appointed her as his SOS in 2009,

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
9. In spite of himself,
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jan 2016

the writer is actually more complimentary to Hillary than not.

But he's really a SBS supporter. Your double-take is understandable.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. Hillary did support and campaing for Obama in 2008
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:52 AM
Jan 2016

After he won the nomination, she quickly got on the campaign trail for Obama, holding rallies of her own in support of his election.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
21. Yes, she did! And I thought that was incredibly admirable of her. Party over political pettiness,
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:42 AM
Jan 2016

something lacking in Sanders since, well, he doesn't care for the Democratic Party and has spent years excoriating it. It's no wonder he hasn't done crappola for down-ticket Democrats...yet he believes they should all get behind him? Why again? Because of his rhetoric? He's all hat, zero cattle.

Thanks but no thanks.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
24. That is my biggest problem with Bernie, he is NOT a Democrat
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:24 AM
Jan 2016

At least until he needed to be to get elected.

He really is deep down a hypocrite!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
3. And, I ask.. "Why not?" He has geniune affection and admiration for her.. why not state the
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:54 AM
Jan 2016

obvious?



A couple of snips from your link, BlueMTex..

“Look, I’ve gotten to know Hillary Clinton really well, and she is a good, smart, tough person who cares deeply about this country,”

snip//

Translation: Bernie is a dreamer, Hillary is a doer. In case anybody missed the point, Obama later repeated it, in slightly different form:

I think that if Bernie won Iowa or won New Hampshire, then you guys are going to do your jobs and you’re going to dig into his proposals and how much they cost and what does it mean, and how does his tax policy work. And he’s subjected, then, to a rigor that hasn’t happened yet, but that Hillary is very well familiar with.


I think President Obama is being more than "fair" to Bernie.. More fair than BS has been to him.

But, Obama isn't playing.. he's doing this for our country.

Mahalo, Blue!

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
7. The article certainly isn't overly complimentary
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

to Hillary, IMO. It's clear from the last part of it that the writer is a SBS supporter. But it is not completely nasty as all too many are. And in spite of himself, the author still makes an excellent case for Prez O's recent comments about and in support of Hillary.

Support is simply not there among the majority for this nebulous "revolution" that SBS espouses.

Interestingly, because the second season of Poldark is coming up on the Beeb, I've been reading the Poldark novels (UK version). The US versions were quite watered down when they were originally published. I'm not sure whether that is still the case.

Apart from the Poldark family saga which is the purpose of the novels, the novels also detail the social situation in Britain (especially in Cornwall). They also describe the era between the First US Revolutionary War and the heightened social uneasiness in Britain not only because of the loss of its US colonies but also because of events France in 1789 and the chaos that followed the toppling of the monarchy there prior to Napoleon's taking firm grasp of things (and then going too far) quite vividly, although fictionalized in aspects, of course. It has been interesting to see that many of Ross Poldar's thoughts about social change parallel my own.

I'm not sure whether those who advocate "revolution" really know what they are advocating for. If they could provide some realistic details and steps, that would be great. But the sweeping generalizations that I have seen to justify "revolution" are simply not realistic. Chaos simply for the sake of chaos will not advance anything in today's America. But it will make things worse.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Maybe President Obama knows Hillary is very capable, Hillary
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jan 2016

Nominated President in the 2008 DNC Convention, she campaigned for him in 2008 and 2012, he ask her to serve as his SOS, yes President Obama knows Hillary, where she stands this is not a new embrace.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
10. Because she's the only one that will defeat the RW in Nov.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jan 2016

That's why.

Without Hillary in the race, the US Government will be owned by the Kochs.
Its that critical.


Walk away

(9,494 posts)
12. An unlikely win by Bernie Sanders would be the end of the Democratic party.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie doesn't care. He dislikes both parties and has been outspoken about it. Thankfully, most Democrats are aware of this.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
13. This so-called "revolution" is just a gimmick to get young people
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

enthusiastic about politics. It'll be all over after the Democratic convention and Bernie joins hands with Hillary pledging his support.

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
14. I doubt that Bernie will activly support the Democratic nominee if he isn't
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jan 2016

the nominee. I don't think he will raise money for the party or campaign for down ticket races either even if he wins the nomination. He's never done these things in the past.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
15. He OWES it to the Democratic Party. He had better summon up
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jan 2016

a bit of that energy his campaign has been bragging about and hit the bricks for Hillary.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
17. He won't join hands. He'll just shuffel off in a huff.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie's in it for Bernie.
No one else, as is evident by his lack of desire to build the Dem Party, work to bring other Dems up, nor raise funds for them to compete with their Republican contenders.

It's the arrogance of socialism.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
16. BS supporters have claimed all along that the president has put his thumb on the scale. Let me just
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

say that if he has, it's out of concern for the party and the country.

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