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Response to Tommy2Tone (Original post)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Yes, very good reasons to not support Sanders, his votes on the gun issues are wrong.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 10:08 PM
Feb 2016

We have had thousands who have died as a result of gun violence in the US and the NRA wanted the votes he has given.

oasis

(49,326 posts)
11. Hillary would be the most qualified candidate, regardless of Bernie's flaws.
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

She has the makeup to be one of our greatest presidents.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
12. He also voted for that terrible 1994 Crimes Bill that Hillary keeps gets blamed for!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:09 AM
Feb 2016


HR 4092 - Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 - Key Vote
Bernie Sanders voted Yea (Passage) on this Legislation.

https://votesmart.org/bill/2673/8308/27110/violent-crime-control-and-law-enforcement-act-of-1994#.VrLOjPkrJdj

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
13. For me
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:43 AM
Feb 2016

it was when he wanted to primary President Obama. He continues to disrespect the President. That's a deal breaker for me

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. All excellent reasons. Damning indeed.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 07:57 AM
Feb 2016

I never knew a lot of these things before coming here. Previously, I just didn't like him instinctively. I felt it in my bones... my hair would stand on end letting me know that he's not the one for me.

I've known people like him in real life (vaguely similar appearance, almost identical demeanor and tone and gestures and attitude) and I didn't like any of those characters either. The people I knew were very off-putting. In my opinion, that's really not the quality that makes for a good leader, a good listener, a good negotiator.

If you want your political adversaries to concede something for the greater good, then you'll need to be willing to concede something as well. If you hope to convince them to concede more, then you'll have to be adept at being able to convey a message of understanding and appreciation to bring out whatever goodwill may exist in the opposite side.

An uncompromising and demanding "my way or the highway" attitude will only stiffen the resolve of the other side. Nothing gets accomplished, and being able to pat one's self on the back while bragging "I stood firm" is a small consolation for accomplishing absolutely NOTHING!

Of course I "want it all" ... but I'm realistic and practical ... I'd rather have something better (even if it's not perfect) than to have nothing.

A small piece of pie on my plate is better than an entire pie in the sky... unreachable... and before anyone CAN reach it, it's crashed back to the ground and splattered everywhere. (And that means NO PIE FOR ANYONE, except the ants.)

Go, Hillary!

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