I'm so weary of all the Hillary bashing.

[PinkTiger]

People can be so meanspirited. It is the mobbish attitude on the rest of the Underground that has me dismayed.
It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't live in a Republican stronghold - Southern Missouri - but I haven't heard a good thing about Hillary Clinton from anyone (outside my own thoughts and a few people who agree) in so long, I begin to question my judgment. And yet, I know that a Hillary presidency would be good for this country. I also can't think of anyone else I would want in the White House at this moment.

That's all I have to say. I'm just so tired of it all.

[autorank]

1. Hmmm...

Could it be from people familiar with the disasters and tragedies in Libya and Syria?

[Ellen Forradalom]

3. Bye Felicia

[autorank]

8. After action

http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/23297/model_humanitarian_intervention_reassessing_natos_libya_campaign.html

[Thinkingabout]

10. This weekend is the Hillary group, it is not a forum but a group

For like minded people to discuss Hillary without the sharks and smearing.

[Nonhlanhla]

17. This is the Hilary group

What, there weren't enough threads on GD-P in which you could pile on?

[Lucky Luciano]

40. This happens when a thread comes up as trending on the main page.

I click on all the trending threads...and have a 0% chance of checking what group the thread is in.

Eg - I didn't know this was the Hillary group until reading these replies.

[Nonhlanhla]

47. You should be able to see the group at the bottom of the page. nt.

[Lucky Luciano]

49. As I said, I go straight to reading the thread and never ever check the group.

[Nonhlanhla]

50. Totally fine

but I've gotten into the habit of checking the group if I plan to post in it, and I would recommend that.

I once accidentally posted in the Bernie group, but luckily it was a neutral post, so no problems. But I learned my lesson.

[Cha]

63. It says right above the "Reply title" "Hillary Clinton (Group).. it's the poster's responsibility to

to know where they are.

[Lucky Luciano]

65. You are correct, but tunnel vision toward the trending topic prevails.

I never look at the groups because I am not so interested in any particular forum or group.

Just giving the reason why people sometimes inadvertently post inappropriately in your or other groups.

I will try to be more careful though as people can be very sensitive.

[Cha]

66. We have posters coming in here and bashing Hillary.. they have the whole rest of the boad..

so yeah.. we don't like that.

And, they will be shown the door.

Thank you.

[complain jane]

57. My thoughts exactly.

[BlueMTexpat]

51. This is the ONE place on

DU that is NOT devoted to Hillary-bashing.

Please crawl back under your rock.

[Cha]

62. No, because that had nothing to do with Hillary.. that's just meme's pushed by those with

an agenda.

[Lucinda]

2. Well...the DU portion of it will be over soon enough.

I live in a red state too, but I avoid most of the vitriol.
Hang in there and watch a speech or two. It might help!

[1StrongBlackMan]

26. Interesting comment ... "the DU portion" ...

It will be refreshing when Democrats turn our guns on the actual enemies ... the republicans. I just hope the army is still intact.

[Lucinda]

27. It will be I think. Many have just stopped posting because it's unhealthy

to get caught up in all the drama. I'm only here when I'm feeling up to it or on primary day! And I have GDP trashed, but end up posting there when something catches my eye when I respond to a previous post.

as soon as we have a nominee, those that just came here to disrupt will be forced out, and those that still don't support the nominee will have to deal with TOS issues. Whoever that nominee is.

[1StrongBlackMan]

30. Yes ... But it's sad that some see ...

the "underground" portion turns against the "Democratic" portion, as a good thing.

[Lucinda]

34. What bothers me the most right now is that new voters

searching for democratic message boards, are going to see DU, more times than not, as the first search result. And they come here for fellowship, and to ask questions, and they end up in a political level of hell.

I also don't like to see people jumping on every crazy thing they see that may or may not be actually accurate. We used to be pretty strict about sources. That lack of care in what is posted tends to cause a frenzy as people get seriously angry about things that may or may not be remotely true.

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. I know ... What also troubles me ...

is the bashing on both sides of the partisan Democratic divide (though admittedly, on side more than the other) ... How the HELL do people go back to people to whom they have been referring to (their non-preferred candidate) as the devil incarnate, and ask them to come out and vote for that candidate?

Now, I do express my concern with the candidates, when asked; but, am sure to add commentary to the effect of, "Well, that is my concern; but, it is not enough of a concern for me NOT to vote, should {HRC/Sanders} get the Democratic nomination ... because the republican candidate is so much, and by far, unthinkably worse.

[handmade34]

4. hugs to you

I am a Hillary supporter but I love Bernie (just don't know why his message brings out the worst in people)

[Tommy2Tone]

7. I don't love Bernie

If he is nominated I truly believe the Dems would get whiped out in 2016.

[handmade34]

14. Bernie has been

an excellent senator for me and I would love to have him continue to be my senator

[Tommy2Tone]

21. Good answer and if nominated I would support him fully.

[BlueMTexpat]

52. I like him too

but would LOVE for him to continue to be your Senator.

I love how he is getting certain issues discussed and is making Hillary an even better candidate. If he wins the nomination, I will - of course - support him.

But we need good Senators every bit as much as we need a good President and he is a good one.

[leftofcool]

20. Whipped in a gawd damn landslide!

[wysi]

24. 49 state landslide

The gop is already unfurling the hammer and sickle.

[Dawson Leery]

33. He will lose the General.

He was a member of the Socialist Workers Party. They called for all major industries to be nationalized.
Very few people are going to vote for that, as they shouldn't.

[Lucinda]

31. I dont think his message does

The real supporters that are passionate are just fed up with the system, and it can get frustrating when people don't see the world the way you do. I don't think you'd find many Hillary supporters that wouldn't want to live in the world Bernie talks about, we just don't see a way to get there based on his plans.

[handmade34]

42. good point...

yes, I am actually to the left of Bernie ideologically... but understand the world in a nuanced way... I want the revolution as much as anybody but I know what it takes and I have not seen the long term commitment from enough people to make it happen exponentially...

Bernie's message is not a new one and what I have seen through history is a good number of people fighting ...but many giving up if the changes they want don't come quick enough...

we will see, in all my years, I have called correctly... this time may be different

[Cosmocat]

44. Bernie is great

His supporters here are mostly atrocious.

[Cha]

64. I disagree on the first part .. I don't think bernie is "great"..

[artyteacher]

5. I was hoping this place was a pro democratic site...

It looks like a drudge or brietbart site half the time. I'm mad at my friend for directing me here. Lol

[handmade34]

28. don't be mad

I am hoping it is just temporary insanity over in GD...

[Lucinda]

32. It does get better, really. Primary season is just really really tough.

Welcome to DU. General Discussion is pretty well monitored, but GDP is the wild wild west right now.

[mainstreetonce]

6. I am a Hillary supporter

I really have learned to like Bernie, but .I wouldn't vote for him to be president.

The main page of DU is so overloaded with Bern,it just must be trolls trying to defeat Hillary.

I can't read it anymore.

[Fla Dem]

38. You're right. Karl Rove and his operatives work full time masquerading as

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Bernie supporters. They want to drive a wedge between the Bernie and Hillary camps. They want Bernie to win because they think he is easier to beat in the General Election. I'm not saying there are not thousand of Bernie fans and many of them are fanatical. It has gotten to the point, where before I liked him, but now I don't. I'll vote for him if he is the nominee, but his followers have really, really made me dislike him.

[DUbeornot2be]

53. Nice logic...

...especially the part about you falling for the Rovian tactic you spent so much time describing...

[wysi]

55. So your view is that...

... Rove is actually working to get Hillary elected?

You've really got to stop sniffing glue.

[DUbeornot2be]

56. No...

...my view is the guy who claimed that we don't know who is really posting the criticism let it affect his view of Bernie anyway...

Nice try at projection though...

[fleabiscuit]

59. They police their own, they are responsible for message they deliver, they own it. Like you. eom

[Fla Dem]

67. There are trolls, but there are also a ton of genuine BS followers.

Hard to tell them apart. They're all obnoxious. By the way this is the Hillary group. Buh-bye!

[fleabiscuit]

9. You care about others. It can get you down when all you hear is negative and make believe.

So sorry you had to post here and have an ass answer first off. It is a 'democratic' tilted message board but has it's own percentage of creeps and crawlies. This group gets an A+ from me though.

[Tommy2Tone]

11. I fight back at them

Here and at Daily Kos. I confront them on a daily basis and I am also there to support my fellow Clinton supporters.

I just do it smarter now.

[asuhornets]

39. Same here..n/t

[peggysue2]

12. Red Sate Blues

I live in a red state though I'm a native of NJ, Bully Boy country. I often say I'm a stranger in a strange land. I've also told my husband I'm not dying down here in the Land of Grits. But what I've learned is to choose my fights wisely and close my ears and yes, even my mouth on many occasions. It's not worth getting into a fist fight each and every day. When Gore lost to Bush, I despised the quick 'Get Over It" quip from neighbors and colleagues. But I lived to fight another day.

When it comes to Hillary Clinton I keep in mind that whatever smack I hear, she's heard x 10. Maybe x 100. Yet she's still standing, strong. An inspiration for me and millions of others. The bashing is indeed wearisome. But I see and hear Hillary looking ever energized and fierce and I know she has her finger on something powerful and true and right.

That can keep us all going.

HILLARY CLINTON 2016
"I am not a one issue candidate . . ."

[kydo]

13. I finally gave up. Now my ignore list is very long and the trash can is very full.

So now I am much happier.

Hang in there, soon some of this will be gone. At least on DU. In the non cyber world, I too am in a red area, but it is close to being purple, still far off, but slowly moving in the right direction.

[FloridaBlues]

16. Don't get pulled into the negitive header on the postings

Why let a few hundred bloggers on this site get you down same people post over and over.
I work in a fairly large hospital 600 workers and by far we nurses are for Hillary. That one (small) nurses Union who endorsed Bern doesn't get us down. Stay strong by the end of March she will wrap this up winning Marjority of states

[comradebillyboy]

22. Besides it's not really a union, more like a PAC

[fleabiscuit]

25. Super! eom

[lunamagica]

15. It's really sad what this place has become. No wonder membership

is dwindling. I come less and less. The vitriol not only against Hillary, but so many of our good Democratic leaders just because the don't worship Sanders, is getting to be too much.

Looking at the home page is disheartening...so much negativity and hate.

[LoveMyCali]

23. I bypass the main page now

And come directly to the Hillary Group. It's better for my blood pressure.

[Dawson Leery]

29. Skinner and Kos have made a big mistake

in allowing the vitrol against Hillary to continue.

Just as in 2008, the far left and far right are just as bad as the other.

[handmade34]

35. it was not this bad in 2008

it seems much nastier this time around

[Cosmocat]

41. Absolutely

The bho campaign was MUCH more self confident and focused on bho and a positive tone.

It was a primary, and there was definitely some tension.

But, ot even close to the mean spiritedness of bernie supporters.

I am voting bernie, but cant stand most bernistas here.

[handmade34]

43. let me give you a hug then

[Dawson Leery]

46. Kremlin Eddie, Cenk, Olbermann, Rhodes, etc have all ganged up on Hillary

just as they did in 2008.

[Treant]

18. It's very sad.

Bernie and the Bro Tones can really wear you down after a while.

[Stuckinthebush]

19. Rejoice!

It'll be over soon.

What the adults in the Clinton forum know is that Sanders has no shot at being our nominee. None. Zero.

Hillary will be the nominee and she will win the General. The data are hard to ignore (but many at DU do ignore the data).

Stay here for a bit and only venture to the stupid sections (GD-P and Bernie Group) if you are feeling adventurous. The rhetoric is divisive and toxic. Once Clinton wins most of these folks will be gone through their own accord or through the eventual banning as a result of being anti-Democratic nominee.

I promise...it'll pass and the adults will be in charge yet again.

Hugs.

[SunSeeker]

36. K & R

[Augiedog]

45. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree. Agree

[ProudToBeLiberal]

48. I do what I can to balance the scales, but it's always an uphill battle.

We got to stick together and fight the good fight. Don't let them keep you down.

[DesertFlower]

54. you're not allowed to say that without being

bashed yourself. (sarcasm)

[complain jane]

58. That same weariness led me to discover this group.

It's better here without all the hostility.

[mtron32]

60. Let it flow

If you're down for Hillary, then the opinions of others shouldn't matter to your choice of who to support. You're dealing with politics so try to divorce any feelings you may have from this thing and just let it be. Hillary has millions of Americans behind her bid for that alabaster home but this is America so she just as surely has millions that hate her guts and say nasty things about her on the daily. Eventually there will be a nominee and then a new POTUS, then all the love and hate will fluctuate for the next four years with whomever America thinks they chose as the next top dog.

None of it has anything to do with you or I, this is just the game. Both campaigns are now past the point where they can say they're above dirty politics (ridiculous since politics in and of itself is amoral game of mass perception control on both sides), gloves are off now. I for one love this part of the campaign since you get glimpses of the real person under the mask and hopefully see what they're really about.

I say let the hate flow and grab the popcorn

[otohara]

61. I Deactivated My Facebook Page

the stupidity and hate was making me physically me sick and I already feel like doo doo from post-polio.

My plan was to return after she wins the nomination...rethinking that though... now may never go back.