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Related: About this forumDan Savage says..."Get over it, dammit!"
From: Dan Savage tells LGBTQ folks angry with Hillarys past marriage views to get over it, dammit!
Everyone knows that queer Seattle advice columnist and political pundit Dan Savage doesnt mince words. And no words were minced in his new column in The Stranger telling LGBTQ folks opposed to Hillary Clinton because of her former opposition to gay marriage that they better get over it if they know whats good for them.
Hillary Clintons support for marriage equality may be a political calculation, he writes. And you know what? We worked hard to change the math so that those political calculations would start adding up in our favor. So sincere change of heart or political calculationeither wayI will take it.
Then he goes on to say that queer folks who withhold support for a progressive candidate like Clinton are hurting their own cause. Its fucking moronicits political malpracticeto attack a politician for coming around on your issues, he writes. There are lots of other issues the queer community is going to be pressing politicians on, from passing equal rights bills and trans rights bills to defeating anti-trans bathroom legislation and RFRAs. If pols who are currently on the wrong side of any of those issues see no benefit to changing their positionsif they see no political benefittheyre going to be harder to persuade. Why should they come around on our issues, why should they switch sides or change their votes, if were going to go after them hammer and tongs for the positions they used to hold?
Hillary Clintons support for marriage equality may be a political calculation, he writes. And you know what? We worked hard to change the math so that those political calculations would start adding up in our favor. So sincere change of heart or political calculationeither wayI will take it.
Then he goes on to say that queer folks who withhold support for a progressive candidate like Clinton are hurting their own cause. Its fucking moronicits political malpracticeto attack a politician for coming around on your issues, he writes. There are lots of other issues the queer community is going to be pressing politicians on, from passing equal rights bills and trans rights bills to defeating anti-trans bathroom legislation and RFRAs. If pols who are currently on the wrong side of any of those issues see no benefit to changing their positionsif they see no political benefittheyre going to be harder to persuade. Why should they come around on our issues, why should they switch sides or change their votes, if were going to go after them hammer and tongs for the positions they used to hold?
A rational argument for the positivity of "evolving" on issues!
Dan Savage still primarily supports BS, but his second choice is unreservedly Hillary!
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Dan Savage says..."Get over it, dammit!" (Original Post)
yallerdawg
Feb 2016
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SunSeeker
(51,367 posts)1. Both of our Dem candidates had to evolve on marriage equality.
Sanders signed a defense of marriage style proclamation as mayor of Burlington and in 2006 chided the LGBT activists that Vermont was not ready for marriage equality and should go with civil unions instead.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)3. Dan Savage again:
He also notes that Obama (and many Democrats) once defended the sanctity of marriage as between a man and a woman, just like Clinton did. And he points out that, in 2006, Sanders said that his home state of Vermont should not try to upgrade gay civil unions to actual marriages.
So! he concludes. Sanders and Clintonneither one was always perfect on marriage. But theyre both on our side now.
So! he concludes. Sanders and Clintonneither one was always perfect on marriage. But theyre both on our side now.
I grew up in Texas. I have seen real evolution on this subject firsthand!
pandr32
(11,446 posts)2. "It's political malpractice"
That is a phrase that speaks volumes and applies to so much related to Sanders' campaign. Good for Savage to call it out.
ismnotwasm
(41,916 posts)4. Glad to see him speaking out
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)5. Wow. I usually consider Savage a real doosh. OK, good on him. K&R
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)6. They kicked him off MSNBC a while back.
He must be doing something right!
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)8. I sure you're not that far off. I feel completely abandoned by tv news.
obamanut2012
(25,905 posts)7. This LGBT agrees!