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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:51 PM Feb 2016

Dan Savage says..."Get over it, dammit!"

From: Dan Savage tells LGBTQ folks angry with Hillary’s past marriage views to get over it, dammit!

Everyone knows that queer Seattle advice columnist and political pundit Dan Savage doesn’t mince words. And no words were minced in his new column in The Stranger telling LGBTQ folks opposed to Hillary Clinton because of her former opposition to gay marriage that they better get over it if they know what’s good for them.

“Hillary Clinton‘s support for marriage equality may be a political calculation,” he writes. “And you know what? We worked hard to change the math so that those political calculations would start adding up in our favor. So sincere change of heart or political calculation—either way—I will take it.”

Then he goes on to say that queer folks who withhold support for a progressive candidate like Clinton are hurting their own cause. “It’s fucking moronic—it’s political malpractice—to attack a politician for coming around on your issues,” he writes. “There are lots of other issues the queer community is going to be pressing politicians on, from passing equal rights bills and trans rights bills to defeating anti-trans bathroom legislation and RFRAs. If pols who are currently on the wrong side of any of those issues see no benefit to changing their positions—if they see no political benefit—they’re going to be harder to persuade. Why should they come around on our issues, why should they switch sides or change their votes, if we’re going to go after them hammer and tongs for the positions they used to hold?”

A rational argument for the positivity of "evolving" on issues!

Dan Savage still primarily supports BS, but his second choice is unreservedly Hillary!


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Dan Savage says..."Get over it, dammit!" (Original Post) yallerdawg Feb 2016 OP
Both of our Dem candidates had to evolve on marriage equality. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #1
Dan Savage again: yallerdawg Feb 2016 #3
"It's political malpractice" pandr32 Feb 2016 #2
Glad to see him speaking out ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #4
Wow. I usually consider Savage a real doosh. OK, good on him. K&R fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #5
They kicked him off MSNBC a while back. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #6
I sure you're not that far off. I feel completely abandoned by tv news. fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #8
This LGBT agrees! obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #7

SunSeeker

(51,367 posts)
1. Both of our Dem candidates had to evolve on marriage equality.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:17 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders signed a defense of marriage style proclamation as mayor of Burlington and in 2006 chided the LGBT activists that Vermont was not ready for marriage equality and should go with civil unions instead.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. Dan Savage again:
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:39 PM
Feb 2016
He also notes that Obama (and many Democrats) once defended the sanctity of marriage as between a man and a woman, just like Clinton did. And he points out that, in 2006, Sanders said that his home state of Vermont should not try to upgrade gay civil unions to actual marriages.

“So!” he concludes. “Sanders and Clinton—neither one was always perfect on marriage. But they’re both on our side now.”

I grew up in Texas. I have seen real evolution on this subject firsthand!

pandr32

(11,446 posts)
2. "It's political malpractice"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

That is a phrase that speaks volumes and applies to so much related to Sanders' campaign. Good for Savage to call it out.

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