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Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:11 PM

They are already starting with the voter fraud in GDP

I have seen two thread on it already.

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Reply They are already starting with the voter fraud in GDP (Original post)
liberal N proud Mar 2016 OP
Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #1
Hortensis Mar 2016 #13
Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #14
Hortensis Mar 2016 #15
tymorial Mar 2016 #26
Codeine Mar 2016 #22
Hortensis Mar 2016 #23
Codeine Mar 2016 #24
Hortensis Mar 2016 #25
MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #2
wysi Mar 2016 #4
OhZone Mar 2016 #7
jsmirman Mar 2016 #17
stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #3
sufrommich Mar 2016 #5
msongs Mar 2016 #6
charlyvi Mar 2016 #8
George II Mar 2016 #9
Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #10
UtahLib Mar 2016 #11
Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #12
MADem Mar 2016 #16
jsmirman Mar 2016 #18
Hortensis Mar 2016 #19
liberal N proud Mar 2016 #21
book_worm Mar 2016 #20
Fla Dem Mar 2016 #27

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:13 PM

1. They have to find an excuse.

For the underwhelming revolution.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:14 PM

13. Don't you mean a hundred different slanders, Ag?

There's an interestingly paranoid streak out there too. Some posts would have you questioning the writers' sanity if you didn't know it was just some of Bernie's ardent followers expressing their...intense displeasure in their usual way.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:17 PM

14. True believers often act in ways that do not make sense.

I view their mindset as a cult.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:20 PM

15. Me, too. I can go days watching

curiously because their behavior is interesting and intriguing, and then I'll find myself wading in and engaging as if it could possibly make any difference. Who's nuts?

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:59 AM

26. Its a product of identity politics

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:59 AM

22. The paranoid and conspiratorial are exactly the sort drawn to him.

He's got the leftist side of the Alex Jones crowd locked down.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:47 AM

23. Have you seen indication of that here, though? I can see that

Jones' conspiracies related to evil corporate plots might rope some people in, but the behavior I've noticed is usually just related to temporary emotional upset over some political reverse or other.

Bernie puts in an uninspiring performance during a debate, so the network and DNC must have rigged the questions to sabotage him. Bernie loses a state, and someone leaps to election tampering as the explanation of choice. That sort of thing. Though extremely common, it tends to die off as people calm down - instead of being developed into elaborate and sinister plots. Very different from Jones' stuff.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #23)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:49 AM

24. I see it elsewhere on the interwebz, but not here.

Skinner weeds the truly whackadoodle sort out pretty quickly, with a few glaring exceptions in sure we can all name.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #24)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:58 AM

25. Oh, I didn't realize he did, but of course.

There are a lot of true whackadoodles, but, now that you point it out, not here.

Still, between true whackadoodles and bizarre but temporary outrage because Bill Clinton visited some polling places to sabotage Bernie's chances is room for the most typical conspiracist type -- those who know to keep it mostly hidden -- at least before the second drink.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:14 PM

2. I love how

the polls show them losing, decisively in most states. He loses, decisively in most states. And then it must be fraud, just because they've deluded themselves into thinking they're a majority instead of a vocal minority.

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Response to MSMITH33156 (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:16 PM

4. Echo chambers...

... can be very deceptive.

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Response to wysi (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:38 PM

7. Yup. nt

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Response to MSMITH33156 (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:27 PM

17. Well put

nm

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:14 PM

3. It's time to call for an end to GDP!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:17 PM

5. I don't have anyone on ignore,but I trash

threads like nobody's business.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:22 PM

6. and the vast media consipiracy nt

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:42 PM

8. That forum's been in my rear view for about two weeks now.

My blood pressure was getting too high.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:53 PM

9. Oh geez....and I've already been accused of not living in the US.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:58 PM

10. Any excuse will do.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:08 PM

11. Meh, ignore them

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:09 PM

12. Kids area funny

Stick here with the adults

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:24 PM

16. William Galvin, the Secretary of the Commonwealth, has said that the candidate's husband

did nothing wrong.

People sometimes forget that this is no different than Jane Sanders wandering around, smiling and shaking hands, accompanied by the mayor.

It's just not illegal. If they need to get riled up in that fashion, well, there you go.

But here's the bottom line--MA politicians (especially savvy ones, like those mayors are) know exactly what a candidate can do--and what they can't do. They aren't new to this. That's why they were there with Clinton, to give him entree and to make sure he didn't overstep.

People can get mad at Clinton for taking the rules to the limit. But they could have done the exact same thing--it would have required, not a lot of money, but a lot of EFFORT. They chose to not try to boost their voter turnout in that fashion--that was their choice.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:34 PM

18. This is the consequence of the death of the media

which we are all complicit in.

It's allowed internet alternatives with absolutely no standards to grow like weeds.

The sad thing is that these internet "journalists" don't know how to do journalism.

I spent a couple years in traditional media, and it makes all the difference in the world. You learn how fact checking works and why it is important. You learn to take pride in accuracy and in responsibly reporting a story.

These internet zines could be good if they had any desire and dedicated any resources to restricting their output to stories they can stand behind and stories they can justify.

(not that this is the genesis of tonight's hogwash, but it has created an overall atmosphere where facts are optional and no one "knows" the truth)


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Response to jsmirman (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:06 AM

19. I'm with you on the media; however, there are people

for whom facts always have been "optional" and the truth has always been whatever they want it to be. A big difference between past and now was largely that local society acted as something of a control on behavior, but now the internet allows various types to find each other in large numbers and reinforce each others' behavior.

Someone from the Boston Globe, I think one of the editors at the time of the church scandal investigation, was saying just yesterday something to the effect that with information age resources journalism can be better than ever, but that people just won't pay for it. Of all the problems, the biggest is that we who need it so badly and once mailed out checks every month for newspapers won't ante up a monthly auto payment.

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Response to jsmirman (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:30 AM

21. Absolutely

24/7 media coverage and the monopolies that have take place allow the media to control the propaganda.

I have said for a long time that Russia and China can only dream of such a propaganda machine.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:11 AM

20. They are already proclaiming that tonight was a great night for them

VT (Bernie's home state), CO, OK and probably MN--we have to see what happens in MA.

Yet, HRC won by landslide margins in GA, AL, Arkansas, TN, TX, VA & American Samoa--and will get many more delegates. They are delusional. One said now there best states are coming up. Well, they are behind in key states like MI, FL, NC, IL, PA, NJ, NY, OH and apparently pinning all their hopes on small states like ME and NE.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:22 AM

27. Time for the Wambulance.




http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wambulance

Wambulance
A fictional ambulance or rescue squad for someone who cries or whines, most often without provication. A way to insult someone whom often cries for no apparent reason; a cry baby, a brat, or someone suffering from hypochondria.

" Waaa, waaa, I want a cookie waaaa, waaaa, waaaa!"
"Did someone call the wambulance, WAAA! WAAA! WAAA!"

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