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Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:20 AM Mar 2016

One Word . . .




The six most delegate-rich states still to come are Califonia (475), New York (247), Florida (214), Pennsylvania (189), Illinois (156), and Ohio (143). Three of these states all vote on March 15, and Hillary is projected to win all of them by large margins. If these margins hold for the next couple weeks, she will take:

* 87 delegates from Ohio, 31 more than Bernie.

* 103 delegates from Illinois, 50 more than Bernie.

* 142 delegates from Florida, 70 more than Bernie.

So from these three states alone, Hillary's lead will expand from 197 delegates to 348 delegates. It is mathematically impossible for her to lose these delegates from Pennsylvania or New York alone, and Bernie would require 87% of the vote in California to make it up. (The latest poll from California is a couple months old, but it showed Clinton 46, Sanders 35.)

After March 15th most of the remaining states do favor Bernie -- but by small numbers. 41-34 delegates in Arizona, 19-14 in Utah, 13-12 in Hawaii, 96-93 in Pennsylvania, and so on. Only Oregon, Wisconsin, and Washington favor him by double digits.

Here's the thing. If Bernie battles Hillary to a tie in all the states where she is favored (including Louisiana, Florida, Illinois, etc.), and wins all of his favored states by the very margins which give him the advantage, he will make up 122 delegates on his 197-delegate deficit.

Hillary wins.

If Hillary takes Ohio, Illinois and Florida by the margins projected above, but is kept to a tie in every other state where she's favored (although Ohio actually favors Bernie by 1 delegate), and Bernie wins all his other favored states by DOUBLE the margin of his advantage, he will make up 242 delegates on his 348-delegate deficit.

Hillary wins.

If, just for fun, we give him an additional 100 delegates in California, that's 342 delegates on his 348-delegate deficit.

Hillary wins.

And no, there will be no indictment. Filter right-wing and pro-Bernie sites out of your Google and research it for yourself. It's a non-issue.

Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee for President. End of story.
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One Word . . . (Original Post) Chichiri Mar 2016 OP
Yes she will Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #1
The whining has been, simply, unbelievable. hamsterjill Mar 2016 #15
Which is why Hillary supporters should stop engaging them in debate Yavin4 Mar 2016 #25
As Hillary's delegate count grows so will her fund raising and a path which will be difficult to Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #2
The democratic socialist 'revolution' did not happen. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #3
And I'm thrilled and ecstatic! SunSeeker Mar 2016 #5
Technically 43 men, even if Hillary will be our 45th President. KitSileya Mar 2016 #21
Numbers. Delegates. Math. Time. None are on their side. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #4
But Hillary is not taking a single vote for granted and we shouldn’t either. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #6
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #14
he needs to get 60% of remaining delegates to win Her Sister Mar 2016 #7
K&R! California will most definitely go Hillary Clinton! Strong Latino vote here that BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #8
And I for one can't wait! pandr32 Mar 2016 #9
I'm with you. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #19
I honestly think Bernie does the most good in the Senate pandr32 Mar 2016 #23
Frankly, I do too. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #24
Pennsylvania Treant Mar 2016 #10
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #20
Proportional delegate allocation BainsBane Mar 2016 #11
FiveThirtyEight. Chichiri Mar 2016 #12
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #13
These CryBaby BernBots need to form their own Party! Cryptoad Mar 2016 #16
Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic nomination and be elected President. George II Mar 2016 #17
I wish I'd saved my calculations from a week or so ago. Based on the Super Tuesday results... George II Mar 2016 #18
"Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee for President. End of story." NaturalHigh Mar 2016 #22
Say It with me, "Madam President" misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #26
Is it "Madam" or "Madame?" nt Chichiri Mar 2016 #29
Madam President ~without "e" Her Sister Mar 2016 #30
Problem is, Sanders' supporters are not based in reality. Hoyt Mar 2016 #27
Excellent post! Kang Colby Mar 2016 #28

Stuckinthebush

(11,021 posts)
1. Yes she will
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

Hence the insanity in GD-P and the Bernie group.

Many are lashing out and acting ridiculous. I honestly believe that some of them would vote for Trump over Clinton now. Their rhetoric is so crazy and out of touch with reality that they sincerely believe that Hillary is evil.

It's amazing.

But, alas, their time is limited here at DU. On to the GE!

hamsterjill

(15,501 posts)
15. The whining has been, simply, unbelievable.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

Of course they will continue with their narrative that the "Clinton's cheated", but I think they'll give it up within a short period of time.

I just hope that the majority of Americans will ultimately understand what is at stake in this election, and will actually get out and vote for Hillary. Even for those who hate Hillary, my question would be "don't you hate the Republicans more"? I've already heard some arguments from a few Bernie supporters to that question, but in the end, it will be the question of the day for them. It WILL be Hillary as the Democratic nominee, and the choice between Hillary and ANY Republican is as clear as day for anyone with a thinking brain.



Yavin4

(36,217 posts)
25. Which is why Hillary supporters should stop engaging them in debate
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

Let events take their course and let them calm down.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. As Hillary's delegate count grows so will her fund raising and a path which will be difficult to
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

overcome. Hillary is working hard as is her campaign team, great work, thanks. We as Americans will be rewarded with a great president.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. The democratic socialist 'revolution' did not happen.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

However, there is a 'quiet revolution' in the process of completion.

My wife and daughter are thrilled and ecstatic!

44 men.

"Ready for Hillary 45!"

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
21. Technically 43 men, even if Hillary will be our 45th President.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

Grover Cleveland is counted both as no. 22 and no. 24, because Benjamin Harrison butted inbetween his terms as no. 23. Another funny fact is that today is the anniversary of the appointment of Frances Perkins as Secretary of Labor. She was instrumental in outlawing child labor, in the implementation of the New Deal, and oh yeah, she was the first female Cabinet member.

83 years later, Madam President is a revolution indeed.

SunSeeker

(53,614 posts)
6. But Hillary is not taking a single vote for granted and we shouldn’t either.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

Phone bank. Donate. VOTE!




BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. K&R! California will most definitely go Hillary Clinton! Strong Latino vote here that
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

had propelled Jerry Brown past Meg Whitman - and Dems hold super-majorities in the CA Legislature because of the Latino vote!

Not only will Hillary Clinton be our next Democratic nominee, she will be our next Democratic President, the 45th president of the United States of America for two terms!

pandr32

(12,149 posts)
9. And I for one can't wait!
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

This primary nastiness cannot be put to bed soon enough for me. I just hope that the light of the new day (GE) will beckon most responsible for the ugliness to let it go and start looking ahead.

BlueMTexpat

(15,493 posts)
19. I'm with you.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

The only silver lining is that among those I know, the nastiness is really misfiring and the bad behavior, especially the vile RW smears that are being constantly repeated against Hillary - who is liked a lot by the Bernie supporters I know - has actually solidified their support for her as a GE candidate, which most concede she will be.

Those I know admit that their Bernie vote is more of a protest vote even though they like him a lot and wish that he really had a chance. But the level of invective towards liberal organizations and liberals who have endorsed Hillary has disenchanted them about some of his followers. A lot. The condescending - when not outright nasty - rhetoric towards AAs, Latinos and women voters who prefer Hillary to Bernie is also taking its toll.

And when someone considered to be such a liberal hero as Elizabeth Warren is subjected to vile rhetoric merely because she opted not to endorse either Bernie or Hillary at this stage, that causes such people to have second thoughts about the whole Bernie candidacy.

Whatever they ultimately do in the primary, they'll certainly do the right thing in the GE. They will NOT vote for a GOPer and they will NOT waste their vote on a write-in. Most importantly, they WILL vote. As will be the situation with me, if by some totally unanticipated circumstance, Hillary is not the GE candidate.

pandr32

(12,149 posts)
23. I honestly think Bernie does the most good in the Senate
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

We need various perspectives there, and Bernie gives his perspective to the Senate debates.

BlueMTexpat

(15,493 posts)
24. Frankly, I do too.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

He can continue to express his POV there freely and be exactly the kind of catalyst needed to energize Dems and any GOPers who might be getting disillusioned with the GOPer policy of constant obstructionism that helps no one.

His experience, outlook, and accountability are much more geared to that kind of position, IMO. He's been a good Senator for his state.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
10. Pennsylvania
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

My state of PA favored Clinton by +21 in the last poll. The low-water poll is Clinton +7, and Sanders has never had a poll where he's ahead.

I don't think there's any danger that she'll lose PA--or NJ, for that matter, with its not inconsiderable 126 delegates.

I'm also crediting her with Maryland and Delaware just off the top of my head, both yet to come. Smaller states, but they'll help offset some of the mountain zone.

BainsBane

(54,728 posts)
11. Proportional delegate allocation
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

Makes it extremely difficult for a candidate to recover from the kind of delegate deficit Sanders currently faces.

Nate Silver has Hillary favored in Ohio. He doesn't have forecasts for the caucus states but it seems likely WA would go to Bernie.

Where did you read the numbers you have posted above?

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. I wish I'd saved my calculations from a week or so ago. Based on the Super Tuesday results...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:27 PM
Mar 2016

....and the four states before that, Sanders would have to win the remaining 35 states each by 62% in order to catch Clinton.

Since he's only ahead in only Maine and Alaska (two electorally tiny states), he simply has no chance of winning, and it's on the verge of becoming an embarrassment.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
22. "Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee for President. End of story."
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

Good news for all of us. I have nothing against Senator Sanders, but Secretary Clinton is the most qualified candidate in the field.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
30. Madam President ~without "e"
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam


"In composed titles
Madam is also used as the equivalent of Mister (Mr) in composed titles, such as Madam Justice, Madam Speaker, Madam President. In the UK, job titles such as President or Prime Minister are not used as titles, as such. By the precedent set by Betty Boothroyd, a female Speaker of the House of Commons is Madam Speaker."

Madame is French for my lady. http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-madam-and-vs-madame/

"Linguists consider that what the British refer to by the usage of the word ‘madam’ is actually referred to by the usage of ‘madame’ too in France. These minor differences between the two words ‘madam’ and ‘madame’ should be known thoroughly by the writer if he is to convey the exact purport of words and sentences to the reader."

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
28. Excellent post!
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

I can't wait until the Sanders campaign is just another obscure historical reference.


Person 1: "He made a "Sanders promise" at our weekly meeting."
Person 2: "What's that?"
Person 3: "Oh, it's when you promise something you have no ability to deliver in exchange for something else."

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