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Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:58 AM Mar 2016

Interesting Kansas Information - (CLINTON GROUP)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article62769277.html

Recent polls show Clinton with a lead, a lot of undecideds, and many people planning on not caucusing. So it just as chaotic as one would expect when trying to poll a caucus state, but if remotely accurate, Kansas miiiiight actually be closer than we think.


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Interesting Kansas Information - (CLINTON GROUP) (Original Post) Lucinda Mar 2016 OP
I love that Hillary competes for votes (and delegates) in states that favor Bernie... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #1
She is a smart hardworking lady! No vote left behind! :) Lucinda Mar 2016 #2
Hillary is working in all states, she does not cull any state, she will be president to all. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #3
Exactly! Lucinda Mar 2016 #7
That would be sweet if she won kanas FloridaBlues Mar 2016 #4
Wouldn't it! Lucinda Mar 2016 #8
I'm crediting Sanders Treant Mar 2016 #5
Smart choice! Lucinda Mar 2016 #6
Nebraska's caucuses Treant Mar 2016 #11
More Fun with Caucuses! Lucinda Mar 2016 #13
Tell me about it. Treant Mar 2016 #15
Caucuses SharonClark Mar 2016 #19
Again I say,... MarianJack Mar 2016 #12
That would be awesome! Lucinda Mar 2016 #14
Nice to hear that! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #20
As we've seen in the 15 states that have already voted and will vote between today and Tuesday..... George II Mar 2016 #9
Yep. Treant Mar 2016 #16
Demographics for the six states voting this week: George II Mar 2016 #18
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #10
Sanders will win this state. Agschmid Mar 2016 #17
Encouraging to see this even if, BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #21
She doesn't really need to win Kansas,she just needs sufrommich Mar 2016 #22
Oh, I sure hope people there are waking up to the reality pandr32 Mar 2016 #23
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #24

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
1. I love that Hillary competes for votes (and delegates) in states that favor Bernie...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

... she's a smart one! Even if she "loses" the state, she still adds delegates to her running totals. (I'm really amazed, though not complaining, that Bernie's campaign seems willing to throw-in-the-towel in delegate-rich states so that he can focus on claiming a "victory" in states with low-delegate counts.)

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
2. She is a smart hardworking lady! No vote left behind! :)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:06 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not quite sure what Bernie is up to...if the posts about low finances are true, that may be one explanation. Whatever it is, he is in a delegate hole that will be hard to climb out of...

Treant

(1,968 posts)
5. I'm crediting Sanders
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

with Nebraska, Kansas, and Maine, all by modest margins (no landslides, in other words, although I think Nebraska could be close or just over the line).

I'm crediting Clinton with a blowout win in Louisiana.

Overall? The weekend is a near-wash in delegates. Sanders might pick up a few, Clinton might pick up a few, but it won't be anything much.

That way, I only have room to be pleasantly surprised.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
6. Smart choice!
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

We should know the Kansas results late this afternoon...not sure what time Nebraska is caucusing.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
11. Nebraska's caucuses
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

are scheduled throughout the day, with times varying depending on your district. Which seems odd, but that's the way they do it.

I'm not sure how Nebraska will report when some numbers will be in very early, before some caucuses even begin. I'm guessing they'll hold any data until the last caucus completes, but I'm not sure what time that will be!

Treant

(1,968 posts)
15. Tell me about it.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a huge fan of switching to all Primaries (yes, I know that does cost money). Caucuses don't accommodate the oldest voters, who are less likely to be able to stand and shuffle around for hours, and have difficulty adequately catering to some disabilities.

Turnout also tends to be better, so the results are less activist-motivated and a better reflection of what party members in each state actually think.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
19. Caucuses
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

I'm in Iowa and some caucuses are a nightmare. Instead of a regular voting location that handles voters through the day, both parties have to find locations in each precinct that hold several hundred to a thousand voters at once. Caucus chairs are often ill-trained, there may not be a PA system, there aren't enough volunteers or signage or registration tables or seating, the forms are odious, and people often don't listen to the instructions that are given. Plus, in 2008 with Obama and 2016 with Bernie, we had several hundred people show up at the last minute who had to be registered. The phrase 'like herding cats' is accurate.

The State Dems are pushing the meme that the caucuses were wonderfully successful but I know too many people who have participated for years who have said never again.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
12. Again I say,...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

...don't be TOO sure that we in Maine will drink the Sanders Kool Aid! I think that Hillary has a good chance here! There has been NO polling done!

PEACE!

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. As we've seen in the 15 states that have already voted and will vote between today and Tuesday.....
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

....Clinton has won (and is leading) in all states with representative constituencies, while Sanders has won or is leading in all states that are predominantly white.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
16. Yep.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

Unfortunately for Sanders, those tend to be smaller states with fewer delegates, and his wins aren't the landslides and blowouts that Clinton is getting down south (in states both large and small).

I can't see him taking AZ, MI, FL, PA, NJ, NY, or IL, nor doing any better than a near-tie in CA. That's not a formula for winning the nomination when your opponent just skunked you in all Southern states and made a good showing in the mid-Atlantic and a few New England states as well.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Demographics for the six states voting this week:
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016
Saturday:

Kansas White 83%, Black 5%, Hispanic 10%, Asian 2% (33)
Nebraska White 86%, Black 4%, Hispanic 9%, Asian 1% (26)
Louisiana White 62%, Black 32%, Hispanic 4%, Asian 1% (54)

Sunday:

Maine White 95%, Black 1%, Hispanic 1%, Asian 1% (25)

Tuesday:

Michigan White 78%, Black 14%, Hispanic 4%, Asian 2% (133)
Mississippi White 59%, Black 37%, Hispanic 2%, Asian <1% (36)

I didn't get too deeply into the details of the five states that he's already won, but here are some:

New Hampshire - 93% white, 1% black
Colorado - 81% white, 4% black (large American Indian and Hispanic population)
Minnesota - 85% white, 5% black
Oklahoma - 72% white, 7% black (large American Indian population)
Vermont - 95% white, 1% black

Also, where he just about tied:

Iowa - 91% white, 2% black

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
21. Encouraging to see this even if,
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

as is likely, Bernie wins. Every delegate for Hillary counts and she will certainly get some from Kansas.

All she has to do is to break even today and she will STILL have nearly 200 pledged delegates more. Of course, I'm hoping that she does better than to break even. That will be VERY encouraging.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. She doesn't really need to win Kansas,she just needs
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

to stop him from getting all the delegates,which she's on target to do.

pandr32

(11,562 posts)
23. Oh, I sure hope people there are waking up to the reality
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

...of what a Trump presidency would do to this country, and that Hillary Clinton will likely be the Democratic nominee. Caucuses are not the place for protest votes.

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