This is Bernie's last hurrah. He is already essentially DONE, but the next two dates seal the deal.

[RBInMaine]

Bernie will enjoy his day here in Maine today, but this really is virtually DONE, as it was after Super Tuesday.

Yes, he has won a few more caucuses, but he isn't competing in the larger diverse primary states. He will lose badly in Michigan and Mississippi on Tuesday, and then on the 15th after OH, FL, IL, and NC, it is the final nail in Bernie's primary season coffin.

Bernie is a good man with great intentions, but he is not a national candidate. I congratulate him on his candidacy and the strong voice he has brought to some key issues. But he's not going to be the nominee.

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R!

[William769]

2. They are adding States to the union trying to get bernie's numbers up in the delegate count.

I went to bed last night and from all my schooling I learned we have 52 States. Imagine my surprise when I woke up this morning to learn we now have 54! I guess those internet polls really do work!

[George II]

30. Two of them are the States of Denial and Depression.

[dlwickham]

32. I noticed that as well

I thought they meant the territories like American Samoa and Puerto Rico

[liberal N proud]

51. I thought it was a new math system where you only counted what you wanted to.

[sheshe2]

63. ;)

[griffi94]

3. i like bernie

i like his policies. i just don't see a path for him
to get those policies implemented in any real way besides small increments.

i don't trust the youthful passionate bernie supporters to have the patience for that.
i'm thankful for obamacare as it allowed me to have insurance but president obama
got the bare minimum because his own party wouldn't go for anything past that.

in a just and more perfect world bernie would be awesome but in this current reality i have a lot more faith
in hillarys experience than i do in bernies "here's how things should be".

bernie is a good senator from a pretty small state where the general population tends to be more progressive.
that won't help him even a little bit when he crashes into the reality of hostile congress made up of members
from deep red states and the tea bagger caucus.

i don't even care if he stays in the race if his goal is keep his issues as front and center as possible
but i do hope the math eliminates him in the next few weeks.

i'd love to live in a town where bernie was the mayor i just have very little faith that he's got the experience or the horses
to lead the country.

[RBInMaine]

5. Young people want IMMEDIATE change.They didn't get enough change with Obama and stayed home in 2010.

This is the problem. Bernie shines a light in important issues and talks up big compelling GOALS, but no realistic way to actually do all that with the system we have, and if he was to get elected his base would leave him two years later for not accomplishing what they thought he would accomplish. Young people need to understand the REALITY of the political process. There is idealism, and then there is REALISM.

Yes, we need compelling goals and a strong voice on our issues. But we also need a measure of realism and practicality. That is Hillary's strength and Bernie's great weakness. He's too VAGUE about how he is actually going to achieve these things.

[Billsmile]

9. Not True

President Obama could have passed a Sanders-like agenda during the 70 days the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority. If the political will was there it could have been done just as it was done in FDR's first 100 days.

Reagan was able to dismantle much of the New Deal during his "revolution."

Massive change can indeed happen in politics and has been done in modern times.

Don't believe the no-can-do hype.

[Cha]

13. No, he couldn't have. I trust President Obama more that all those who don't really know what

they're talking about on the internet.

FYI .. this is Hillary's group.. but we.. at least I as Host don't take any ignorant cheap pot shots against the President either.. or Hillary.

You have the whole rest of board.. just not in here.

[yallerdawg]

48. Thank you, Cha!

At least somewhere here we honor Democrats standing up for Democrats!

[Cha]

49. Yes, in our little corner of DU we stand up for Progressive Dems who get things done...

Like President Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Our little corner that opens up to a huge majority in our Country.

Check out the popular vote for Obama and Hillary, so far, for those pesky details.

Aloha yallerdawg

[shenmue]

16. Bzzzt

Nope.

[griffi94]

20. it wasn't president obama

everything he tried at first was blocked....by the conservative democrats in congress
that's my point. bernie has great ideas, but he doesn't have the experience
with the opposition to get them implemented.

it's one thing to point out what needs to be done, it's a different thing to actually get something done.
hillary has taken the all the heat the repubs can throw at her. that's why they hate her so much.

they won't have any problem knocking bernie around.
he's been in congress like 30 years why hasn't he gotten any of this stuff passed yet.

[pandr32]

21. He seems to have a short fuse, too

His face reddens and his hands start waving around wildly--revealing his agitation. I saw this when he was debating Hillary Clinton. What the heck will he be like when the Republicans sink their teeth into him?

[griffi94]

33. i think he's just old and cranky lol

or at least he comes off that way

[pandr32]

39. Not very "presidential"

[obamanut2012]

52. And into his wife

Unfortunately, family members aren't off limits to the GOP.

He doesn't get they will go after his "illegitimate" child, and see if he paid child support to the child's mother, and then attack Jane. And everything else they can think of.

[pandr32]

55. They will at that!

[jmowreader]

59. In reality, Bernie's ideas are terrible.

Start with his $15 minimum wage. Sounds nice...until you remember small business has a term for being at the brink of financial ruin, and that term is "Friday!" Simply put, only the very biggest companies in America have the cash flow to increase their employees' pay that much. Maybe he's TRYING to put small business out of business, but that doesn't sound very anti-oligarchy to me. I've worked for at least one company where the owner didn't take a salary out of his own business, and I'm not the only person in America who's done that.

And let's be real about his tax plans. The Sanders Regime relies on the rich paying for everything. Pretend Bernie got elected on November 8. On November 9 the oligarchs in this country would go to all-cash (that means selling everything they own) and haul ass for the Caribbean to wait Mr. Sanders out. Truth be told, we need those oligarchs about as badly as they want our money and the sweat off our brows.

[localroger]

22. The filibuster-proof majority required Joe Lieberman. /nt

[griffi94]

31. and several other blue dogs from the south and the western states

wasnt it a senator from one of the dakotas who kept blocking ACA

[reACTIONary]

35. He couldn't even get guantaniomo closed...

.... which was a campaign promise, whiich was a rather stright forward proposition, and which he attempted early on.

Obama has conceded that Guantanamo will not close anytime soon. “Obviously I haven’t been able to make the case right now, and without Congress’s cooperation, we can’t do it,” he said this month in an interview with the Associated Press. “That doesn’t mean I stop making the case.”

Administration officials lay blame for the failed initiative on Congress, including Democrats who deserted the president, sometimes in droves. The debate, they said, became suffused with fear — fear that transferring detainees to American soil would create a genuine security threat, fear that closing Guantanamo would be electoral suicide. Some Democratic lawmakers pleaded with the White House not to press too hard, according to administration officials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/guantanamo-bay-how-the-white-house-lost-the-fight-to-close-it/2011/04/14/AFtxR5XE_story.html

I'm glad he did as well as he did on health care, and I agree with HRC that we should focus on strengthening and defending what we have accomplished rather than risk it in a quixotic quest .

[redstateblues]

42. That's bullshit. As much of a struggle

As it was To get the ACA passed your idea of what could have been done is fantasy. The Bernie magic wand theory

[Cha]

50. Thank you, redstateblues... so much disinformation.. so little time.

[Lil Missy]

69. Reagan had a cooperative Congress, Obama one that vowed to make him fail.

Obama used every drop of what political capital he had to pass the ACA.

[Cha]

10. They got change... they just didn't realize it and screwed themselves and the country. But,

President Obama still preserved. He's stronger than all of them.

And, now he's really accomplished and popular.. and BS is running against him and Hillary.

[kacekwl]

25. WOW

God forbid we change the "system" we have.

[Cha]

37. We're not going to get any change with bernie. Obama has been an excellent President

and Hillary will build on his Accomplishments.

FYI.. You are in Hillary's Group. For her Supporters.

[reACTIONary]

40. If you want to change "the system" you will . ..

... have to explain what the "system" is you want to replace it with. And if that system is, in any meaningful and coherent sense of the term, socialism, well...

...... You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow.

[people]

34. Bernie has been in the House and the Senate for years!

Bernie Sanders has been dealing with Republicans and tea-partiers for years -- first in Congress and then (and now) in the Senate, and has managed to pass with John McCain the most comprehensive Veterans Legislation that has been passed in decades. Bernie is known as the "amendment king." He certainly knows who he's dealing with and how to deal with them. He's been operating in a very much larger world than Burlington. It is silly to pretend his political experience is less than it actually is. In fact, Bernie has been in Congress and in the Senate many years more than Hillary was in the Senate.

Do you think that Hillary with the irrational hatred that Republicans have for her will be able to accomplish ANYTHING other than some very regressive measure that the Republicans want? Hillary will not have any easier time getting anything done in Congress.

I have learned that people who are good negotiators start very high and only come down when necessary. If you start bargaining in the middle position you end up at the bottom or less than where you actually wanted to end up.

You are kidding yourself if you think Hillary would be able to pass legislation more easily or more progressive than Bernie.

[Cha]

38. Yeah, that's the whole point.. Years and he's done nothing much and most of his colleagues

endorsed Hillary.

She Gets Things Done.

[fleabiscuit]

54. That is a yough understatement. eom

[reACTIONary]

41. You are mistaken. He hasn't been...

.... "dealing" with them at all. He's forgotten that "come down when necessary" part.

[riversedge]

4. TRUTH: Bernie Sanders Is Running a Reckless, Deeply Personal Campaign Against Hillary

I just want this to be done with. Sanders has been going deeply personal this last few weeks. It is wrong .




Tweet:
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TRUTH: Bernie Sanders Is Running a Reckless, Deeply Personal Campaign Against Hillary
By Peter Daou
March 5, 2016


There are two kinds of negative political frames: issue and character. Character frames can be divided into contrast (experience, judgment, etc.) and integrity (dishonesty, corruption, etc.).

The worst kind of political attack is an unsubstantiated attack on an opponent’s integrity, impugning their honesty and trustworthiness without a shred of evidence. There’s really not much worse you can say about another candidate than that they are corrupt.

And that’s exactly what Bernie has been doing for all of 2016. His aides, surrogates and supporters have been doing it as well, even more directly and aggressively. Tad Devine went so far as to question Hillary’s capacity to appoint a Supreme Court Justice to replace Scalia.

And Bernie did it again tonight, implying that contributions to Hillary somehow corrupt her. It’s the Wall Street dog whistle, a deplorable negative frame that Hillary rightfully swatted down during a recent debate:.............

[TrueDemVA]

7. Personal?

When did bringing up her record flip over to getting personal? If her bad decisions reflect badly on her then that is her own doing.

[Cha]

11. Yeah, it's personal... and this is gonna bite him.

[NastyRiffraff]

8. +1,000 n/a

[Cha]

19. Desperate.. thanks rivers!

[Tarheel_Dem]

6. Well, I won't even pretend to like him, or that he's been good for the process. The fact that he...

cynically used the party that he has persistently railed against & never even bothered to join, like an off-ramp toilet on his trip back to the Senate (still as an Independent), disturbs me greatly. He's created rifts & wounds that may not heal for quite some time. My most fervent wish is that once the dust settles, party officials consider some rules changes that never allows ANYONE to use the party's infrastructure & access, who is not a member of said party.

[Cha]

12. That's right, Tarheel.. when people say that.. I think they don't know him that well.

[Tarheel_Dem]

14. The more I get to know him, the more I despise him. n/t

[Cha]

15. Yep,

[shenmue]

17. Yes!

[SharonClark]

56. K&R

[JanetLovesObama]

18. Bernie started out as a decent guy BUT

most of his supporters are HORRIBLE and nasty and hateful. The names they have called Hillary (and me and others) on my FB were despicable. I kept expecting Bernie to denounce what they were doing but he never did. And now he himself has turned very nasty and ugly towards Hillary. His true colors are showing now and I cannot wait to see him GONE for good. As far as his nasty supporters let them write him in or vote for Trump. Majority of them are independents and republicans anyway so who cares??

[tom_kelly]

23. Thank you for your input. Now, move along. n/t

[Cha]

24. guess who's "moving along"?

[fleabiscuit]

57. Hammer Time!

[Cha]

65. Thank you, flea!

[maindawg]

26. Not even close

Dream on ......

[Cha]

68. Take your own advice.

[bernbabe]

27. Since you won't listen to Bernie supporters

listen to Hillary's own words:

[Cha]

43. You need to respect our group.. this isn't for BS supporters.

[MrWendel]

66. Pffff...

Reading is for the Elite, and wall street.

[reACTIONary]

28. K&R!

[gordianot]

29. This entire thread is the sort of thing that infuriates people and creates opposition.

If true in a few months Clinton and her supporters will want the support of those nasty Sanders supporters. The onslaught of Republican hyperbole will be terrific and Hillary may even face legal battles friends might be helpful. As far as I am concerned both Clintons have damaged the brand beyond repair this time around. In the end she would get my vote but who needs a life long Democrat when you have a friend like Henry Kissinger.

[Cha]

36. You know what, gordiannot? This is Hillary's Group. We don't go into the BS Group and say..

"this is the kind of thing that infuriates people and creates opposition?"

Do you ever go into their group and say that?

Never mind, I'm going to block you for not respecting our Group.

[sufrommich]

44. This is so common,they trash Clinton non stop and

complain that any negatives pointed at Sanders will cost votes. It's childish bullshit.

[Cha]

45. Yes, and i busted him on it.

Thank you, Su!

What RB is saying is NOTHING compared to what they go on about.

[Cha]

46. P.S. JHC... RB even said "bernie is a good man with good intentions.. " would they say

Hillary is a good woman with good intentions? Give Me A F******* Break.

[fleabiscuit]

58. You should know I have a list of 906 songs containing the word "hammer." :-)

[Cha]

61. Oh NOes... I was beginning to wonder?! LOLOLOLOL

You'll need them, flea.

[JohnnyLib2]

62. Has that shown up as a whine in another group---yet?

[mcar]

47. K&R

[redstateblues]

53. Thanks Cha

The emboldened entitlement of some BSS is astonishing. I'm trying to be civil knowing we need to unify but I'm not going to let the extreme smears go by without an answer.

[Cha]

67. You'll welcome, redstateblues, thank you!

[ismnotwasm]

60. How did I possibly not kick and recommend this post?

Better late then never

[sheshe2]

64. K&R

[Setsuna1972]

70. Bernie'snot a person,but he's not the right person to be President either