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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:08 AM Mar 2016

Interesting point from an analyst and pollster on Al Sharpton's show (MSNBC)...

Paraphrasing here:

Older Latinos are much more comfortable with Hillary, while younger ones are more drawn to Bernie and are breaking with their parents.

However, when analyzing this voting block as a whole, it's clear that the "POLITICAL REVOLUTION" rhetoric of Bernie does not resonate.

Millions of Latinos themselves (or their family members) "LEFT THEIR COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN TO ESCAPE REVOLUTION OR UNSTABLE GOVERNMENTS" and do not care to relive that here.


Pertinent points, I think.
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Interesting point from an analyst and pollster on Al Sharpton's show (MSNBC)... (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 OP
I saw that segment too. Thanks for posting this. livetohike Mar 2016 #1
I really perked up my ears when I heard that! Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #2
Exactly! Revolution = instability pandr32 Mar 2016 #4
"BERN IT DOWN!" is not a governing philosophy. LOL! Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #6
some think ~Revolution = Fun and cool Her Sister Mar 2016 #11
Like the "casseurs" (breakers) here in France. They infiltrate peaceful demos and marches Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #12
Yeah revolutions are cool Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #19
Both Latino's and Blacks are less liberal than Whites.... boythayer Mar 2016 #3
The relative moderation of minority voting blocks is clear... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #5
negative consequences tend to be more negative for minorities Her Sister Mar 2016 #8
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #10
Ain't that the truth SharonClark Mar 2016 #18
the whole world seems to be having a revolution Her Sister Mar 2016 #7
You and me both... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #9
Sadly it appears 2naSalit Mar 2016 #17
Plus Bernie did not forge deep (or any) relationships with minority groups Her Sister Mar 2016 #13
He increasingly reminds me of what they used to call a "gadfly"... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #14
here is video example of gadfly Her Sister Mar 2016 #15
Wow, I would've had him ejected from the meeting. Purposeful obstruction. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #16
Bernie stuff your Revolution Historic NY Mar 2016 #20
Fascinating. Thanks. Hekate Mar 2016 #21
I heard that too. Maria Teresa Kumar knows her community from top to bottom. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #22
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #23

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
4. Exactly! Revolution = instability
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

You would think more people supporting Sanders who have not seen the shit end of revolution would be able to figure out that simple point.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. Like the "casseurs" (breakers) here in France. They infiltrate peaceful demos and marches
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016

just for "shits and giggles" as they say.

 

boythayer

(14 posts)
3. Both Latino's and Blacks are less liberal than Whites....
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

and Latinos voted for much higher numbers for Republicans until recently

PEW RESEARCH:

Hispanics: 39% Moderate, 35% Liberal, 24% Conservative

Blacks: 42% Moderate, 29% Conservative, 27% Liberal

Whites: 50% Liberal, 36% Moderate, 12% Conservative


This narrative might fit the conservative Cuban population who were under an authoritarian Communist, but as a whole, I don't buy the conclusion of the pollster.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. The relative moderation of minority voting blocks is clear...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:28 AM
Mar 2016

As you say, "both Latinos and Blacks are less liberal than Whites".

And, yes, the Latino block has gradually been moving into the Dem. column, in part because of the increasing zenophobia of the RW. By nature and custom, they tend to conservatism.

Which explains why the idea of "REVOLUTION" makes a lot of them shake in their boots.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
7. the whole world seems to be having a revolution
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

and it doesn't look like much fun!!

Nice and steady progress is good for me!! as per our constitution....

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
17. Sadly it appears
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

that, perhaps, as a species we can't help ourselves... we seem to need extreme obstacles to move forward in evolution and understanding.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
13. Plus Bernie did not forge deep (or any) relationships with minority groups
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

besides his civil rights marching 40 years ago. He is a not known quantity with minorities. Why would they risk something as risky as a revolution with someone they haven't built trust with - when they are the ones who will be hit the hardest if (when) it doesn't work out.
Smart to pass and sit out this revolution.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. He increasingly reminds me of what they used to call a "gadfly"...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

Full Definition of gadfly

2
: a person who stimulates or annoys especially by persistent criticism

Did You Know?

The history of "gadfly" starts with "gad," which now means "chisel" but which formerly could designate a spike, spear, or rod for goading cattle. Late in the 16th century, "gad" was joined with "fly" to designate any of several insects that aggravate livestock. Before too long, we began applying "gadfly" to people who annoy or provoke others.

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