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NRA Praises Sanders' Comments On Gun Manufacturer Liability (Original Post) comradebillyboy Mar 2016 OP
UGH Iliyah Mar 2016 #1
An NRA leap in logic. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #2
Yup. Sanders made an idiotic statement. It shows he still supports the PLCAA. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #12
I love when friends give you away! Her Sister Mar 2016 #3
I'd like to see his response Rose Siding Mar 2016 #4
His friends will twist it to say it's okay shenmue Mar 2016 #5
Logic Tep64 Mar 2016 #6
I agree with you, but I don't think your post is welcome here. n/t Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #7
And there you have... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #15
Of course they'd praise it. Those are NRA talking points. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #8
I know this won't be popular here... Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #9
I kind of agree also: Satch59 Mar 2016 #16
I agree with you. You stated it far better than I did. Thank you for that. n/t Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #17
I'm conflicted kjones Mar 2016 #18
Ouch! mcar Mar 2016 #10
That's a great endorsement..........................for Hillary Clinton. George II Mar 2016 #11
!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #13
it seems to me that the gun industry is to Bernie what "Wall Street" is to Hillary. spooky3 Mar 2016 #14
And that... wysi Mar 2016 #19

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. An NRA leap in logic.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016
"If I understand it and correct me if I'm wrong, if you go to a gun store and you legally purchase a gun, and three days later you go out and start killing people, is the point to hold the gun shop owner or the manufacturer of that gun liable? If that is the point, I disagree," Sanders said. "If they are selling a product and the person who buys it legally, what you are talking about is ending gun manufacturing in America. I don't agree with that."





SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
12. Yup. Sanders made an idiotic statement. It shows he still supports the PLCAA.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

The PLCAA was enacted in 2005. Product liability laws did not put gun manufacturers out of business before there was any PLCAA - not even close. The reason gun manufacturers wanted that law was because the NRA got the Assault Weapons Ban to expire in 2004, so they were gearing up to sell lots of military style weapons designed for rapid mass killing on the battlefield -- and would be marketing them to unhinged civilians. They wanted to escape liability for this obviously negligent behavior and Sanders was happy to help them out.

So, thanks to Sanders vote, gun manufacturers flooded the country with ridiculously dangerous military style weapons, using irresponsible ads like this:




Tep64

(2 posts)
6. Logic
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

In following the "logic" of holding the gun manufacturer's and gun shops liable for the illegal use of their products, should not the pharmaceutical manufacturers, and people who have their narcotics stolen by friends/family who are addicts be liable for the heroin epidemic?

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
9. I know this won't be popular here...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

I know this won't be popular here, but I agree with Senator Sanders on this one. I just think his approach to answering it was round about and clumsy.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
16. I kind of agree also:
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

Don't think gun manufacturers or gun stores can be held libel if a gun was purchased legally BUT he could have danced around it by saying he wasn't sure if those parents could win a lawsuit but they have every right to sue and bring attention to the horror of assault weapons.

He showed no empathy for those poor parents...it was dry and didn't come off well at all...

It was not a good debate from Bernie overall: the yelling, finger pointing, ghetto comment...and he can back pedal on the auto industry vote: but truth is he didn't vote for it. AND I thought he contridictated himself when saying the crime bill had some good things and some bad but he voted for it...wasn't the bailout the same?

kjones

(1,053 posts)
18. I'm conflicted
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

It's such a strange question, really, and it's in such a strange legal area.
I don't know...
but it's always been his other gun votes that bugged me more anyway.

spooky3

(34,428 posts)
14. it seems to me that the gun industry is to Bernie what "Wall Street" is to Hillary.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

When both were Senators, part of their job was to represent the interests of their constituents in addition to taking into account their own judgment about what is right - in Bernie's case, Vermont gun owners, and in Hillary's case, New York City finance employees. So, she had more of an obligation to think about "Wall Street's Interests" than did the typical senator. This point almost never seems to be mentioned.

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