Anyone else watching the Democratic Debate on CNN? It's by Univision.

[BlueCaliDem]

Anyone?

[LannyDeVaney]

1. Heck yes, I'm watching. Only debates that discuss issues are the Democratic debates

[BlueCaliDem]

2. Excellent!

[rocktivity]

19. DING DING DING! LannyDeVaney, you're our grand prize winner!

...(The) only debates that discuss issues are the Democratic debates.

rocktivity

[spooky3]

22. Love your graphics!

[George II]

3. Here!

[riversedge]

4. I am. I am upset the mod is talking about her server!! dam

[livetohike]

5. Watching n/t

[riversedge]

6. The audiance applauded lots with Hills answer about her server and email.

[MSMITH33156]

7. She nailed the e-mail question

So good.

[riversedge]

8. Now the mod is asking Is Donald Trump a racist.

[JohnnyLib2]

9. Watching. She can damn well handle anything!

[OhZone]

10. ^ OHYEAH! nt

[LannyDeVaney]

11. We see Sanders plan tonight ...

He has already mentioned polls showing him beating Trump twice in the first 15 minutes.

[LannyDeVaney]

13. Video of Sanders saying immigrant workers steal jobs ...

You could have heard a pin drop in the audience.

[BlueCaliDem]

17. I saw that. OMFG!

That must've been embarrassing!

[otohara]

21. OMG He's Parroting Trump's

poll numbers routine?

[MSMITH33156]

12. These questions are terrible

They are purposely asking questions to try get a gotcha moment.

They are a step away from asking, "When did you stop beating your wife?"

[LannyDeVaney]

15. Yes, like I said, in interviews on NPR this morning ....

they said "If we don't put them on the defensive, we haven't done our job."

Unfortunate, but it's probably an effect from the Republican debate ratings. They want entertainment, not policy.

[riversedge]

18. I thought the same thing--reminded me of the 1st Repug debate.

[BlueCaliDem]

14. OMG! They've played Bernie's video when he was on Lou Dobbs' show explaining his 2007 no-vote on

the immigration bill! Oh snap!

[riversedge]

39. I imagine the

sanders fans are having a fit over that one.

[Fla Dem]

16. Why is Bernie yelling? nt

[BlueCaliDem]

28. I was wondering that same thing.

Very unappealing.

[Fla Dem]

30. My God, if he waves his arms anymore he'll take off. nt.

[riversedge]

20. About that immigration reform vote in 2007... #DemDebate

oh, boy--Hillary said Bernie misrepresented her actions. Good for her.



Guy Cecil and 1 other Retweeted
The Briefing ?@TheBriefing2016 2m2 minutes ago

About that immigration reform vote in 2007... #DemDebate

[riversedge]

23. that immigration will drive down wages: he doesn't answer question!

Damon Bethea Retweeted
Glenn Thrush ?@GlennThrush 12m12 minutes ago

Very good, tough use of Sanders' 07 clip -- where he clearly asserts his concern that immigration will drive down wages: he doesn't answer q
29 retweets 19 likes

[BlueCaliDem]

26. He's too busy answering Hillary's questions.

[DesertRat]

24. I'm watching

[riversedge]

25. Clinton promises not to deport children: "I want to see them on a path to citizenship.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ABC News ?@ABC 35s35 seconds ago

Clinton promises not to deport children: "I want to see them on a path to citizenship." http://abcn.ws/1QNndxi


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[spooky3]

27. I've been watching for a few minutes and he keeps interrupting

Almost as soon as she speaks he starts waving his hands and making faces. A few times he tries to speak. These moderators have show a willingness to limit time, so i don't like his doing this.

[livetohike]

29. Notice that Hillary is on his right tonight and he can't

wag that right hand pointer finger at her 😊.

[spooky3]

32. Good catch!

[livetohike]

37. So proud of Hillary tonight. She is doing a good job with some of the

worst questions I've seen in a debate.

[spooky3]

46. He just used his left index finger to point!

[livetohike]

48. Equal opportunity pointer. LOL

😄

[Satch59]

31. Totally gotcha questions...

They seem to want a fight... Bernie on the attack tonight and I still say his angry tone and yelling and hand waving is not presidential...just saying...

[livetohike]

38. It's not and his supporters say " Oh it's Bernie being Bernie."

Like that excuses it.

[BlueCaliDem]

40. He's screaming and yelling about speech transcripts again.

He's trying to paint her a liar, but he'll never run a negative campaign, huh?

[DesertRat]

33. ...

lizadonnelly ?@lizadonnelly

[otohara]

35. LOL

[riversedge]

44. ha ha.

[livetohike]

45. LOL!

😄

[mcar]

49. Perfect!

[LisaM]

53. Excellent!

She is talented.

[DesertRat]

54. And these are from the last debate

?@lizadonnelly

[Fla Dem]

61. Just said the same thing in a post above, lol. nt

[DesertRat]

62. Great minds

[riversedge]

34. Univision's Jorge Ramos asks Clinton at #DemDebate: If you're indicted, will you drop out?

AP Politics ?@AP_Politics 5m5 minutes ago

Univision's Jorge Ramos asks Clinton at #DemDebate: If you're indicted, will you drop out? http://apne.ws/1SB4hq9

[otohara]

41. Assholery Question

WTF Jorge???

Thanks for watching BTW.

[riversedge]

43. I thought Jorge was a real a** hole at the beginning

[otohara]

51. I Can't/Won't Watch

because of shit like this.

Jorge making it about him.

[CorkySt.Clair]

69. Cheered on by Bernie supporters everywhere

They're the only people who fantasize about as much as the Republicans.

[LisaM]

73. Then they asked Bernie about some contradictory statements

He had made about the emails and he said something like, "bla bla, the middle class is shrinking..."

[bravenak]

36. Him and these speeches

[riversedge]

42. The mods have to shut Bernie off lots of times. He constantly interrupts and takes too

much time.

[complain jane]

64. Then

He just made a dig because she kept speaking and wouldn't let him interrupt. He's a piece of work.

[Satch59]

47. Stop with the speeches...

Stupid question...and it seems all these debates are just producing the same answers...broken records on both sides... Hillary is kind of nailing him on Koch Bros ad for him and of course Bernie just yelling...

OMG Bengazi!!! This is such a bad panel...

[spooky3]

50. She got a lot of cheers during her answer.

[MSMITH33156]

52. Stop telling the candidates to shut up

so you can ask another inane question. Let them finish.

All we're getting is:

1) Gotcha question.

2) Half of an answer interrupted by the moderator 3-4 times.

3) Response interrupted by the moderator 3-4 times.

4) Gotcha question.

[LannyDeVaney]

55. Yes, I guess he expects a 5 second answer to something as "simple" as Middle East diplomacy ...

They all want a Trump to say "We will solve this so awesomely". (clap)

[Satch59]

57. Totally agree...

It's like they aren't listening to their answers and just at a timer... Really bad...and that Karen chick is really not a nice person...

Gotcha gotcha gotcha...

[LisaM]

56. I wish he would stop saying Eye-rack

And I also wish he'd nuance the difference between voting for a resolution to give the president power to declare war and actually declaring war. Neither will happen, of course.

[livetohike]

58. I wish he would stop yelling! I don't think it's playing well.

He seems disrespectful.

[Maru Kitteh]

59. We are. Bernie needs to put that finger somewhere.

I have a suggestion if he needs one.

[MSMITH33156]

60. She is owning him on his giveaways

And making him look ridiculous. Bernie bots won't care, but he is totally out of his depth. Just offers platitudes, with no solutions.

[livetohike]

63. Definitely! He's programmed with about four responses. I can't

even listen to him anymore.?TV is on mute when he speaks.

[LannyDeVaney]

65. His response to criticizing Democratic presidents and never criticizing Republican presidents ...

was (shock!) The War in Iraq.

[livetohike]

67. Yep. One of the four responses.

👍.

[Cha]

74. Oh yeah? President Obama was against the war on Iraq from the get go and made a famous

speech on Oct 2, 2002 on it.

Don't suppose sanders had anything to say bout why he bashes the President?

[MSMITH33156]

66. Bernie interrupting her and stepping on her answer

pissed me off. She doesn't do that.

[MSMITH33156]

68. Being from Miami

that video is deadly of Bernie. That is going to go VERY bad for him.

[Sparkly]

70. Just saying "hi."

I haven't been on this forum, or even DU, in a long time. But the double-standards have become beyond aggravating. I actually Googled "feminists for Hillary" before coming here. Where are they?

It's all backlash. It's all uncool. It's all fuddy-duddy now.

I don't mind what Sanders SAYS. I just know reality, and if President Obama didn't get this fantastical "political revolution in Washington," it isn't going to happen for Sanders.

It's easy to think this is all about "purity," not politics. I've seen Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry... and NADER. Here we finally have a brilliant, accomplished, liberal candidate who knows the game of politics -- and who also knows what it is to be a woman in this country -- but supporting her is sacrilege.

I am also all too aware that the cameras cut to him holding up his hand objecting and interrupting while she's speaking, yet if she speaks up while he's talking he snaps at her for interrupting. He can yell and point as vigorously as he wants, and nobody will call him "shrill" or out of control, yet she can't tread beyond the fine line between "confident" and "crazy." He can look however he looks, but she's criticized for her weight, wardrobe, age and anything else.

(Never mind policy, especially the IWR vote which was so long ago now, I doubt most people listening remember what she SAID in her floor speech when she made her vote!! She is smart not to get down into that old mud because the more time passes, the easier it is to oversimplify as "For" or "Against" what BUSH DID, and "time to explain" is impossible. It has to fit on a bumper sticker.)

Again, my argument is not what Sanders SAYS, or the ideals of anyone who a) won't make it to the White House or b) can make it there and never get a THING done (because there's not going to be a mass revolution storming the Bastille). My argument is with the popular view that he is perfect, and she is Evil Incarnate.

It is just frustrating to me to see, once again, "I'm a woman, but I support the man! How cool of me! And isn't she just awful?"

I would love to think anyone under 50 gets this.

Thanks for letting me VENT!!!

Whew!

[fleabiscuit]

71. Nailed it. Great post. n/t

[spooky3]

72. Welcome back. I think you make great

Observations.