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Well, we have a unanimous agreement
Fact Checkers Agree: Bernie Sanders Voted To Protect The Minutemen
http://correctrecord.org/fact-checkers-agree-bernie-sanders-voted-to-protect-the-minutemen/
At last nights debate, Senator Sanders was confronted with his vote in support of an amendment to protect the extreme nativist vigilante group known as the Minutemen and then flatly denied voting to support them.
JORGE RAMOS: Did you support the Minutemen? Did you support the Minutemen as the Secretary said?
BERNIE SANDERS: Of course not. There was a piece of legislation supported by dozens and dozens of members of the House which codified existing legislation.
The fact checkers have weighed in and concluded that Clinton was right:
Washington Post Fact Checker: While Sanders suggested the measure was a small part of a larger bill, it was approved in a recorded vote as a stand-alone amendment.
Politifact: Still, as with Clintons charge about indefinite detention, her statement about Sanders supporting an amendment favorable to the Minutemen is largely accurate.
Politico Wrongometer: Actually, Sanders did vote to protect the Minutemen
AP Fact Check: THE FACTS: She was right about his vote
Factcheck.org: But in this case, Sanders voted in favor of a stand-alone amendment proposed by Minutemen-friendly Republicans. Sanders argued that the legislation merely codified existing policy, but it was opposed by a majority of Democrats.
still_one
(92,161 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I can't think of a single acceptable reason why he would have supported this.
mcar
(42,302 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Heads would explode. It's all just lies! They're saying means about Bernie!
Thanks for this. I had heard this before but was never sure about it.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Billsmile
(404 posts)I claim the time in opposition; but, Mr. Chairman, I dont rise in opposition, he said. He said Customs officials had told him they already didnt share information with the Mexican government except for where required by treaty.
If people want to put it in the bill, I guess that is okay because it apparently does nothing, he quipped.
The Sanders campaign cited Sabos vote when explaining Sanders support for the largely symbolic, pro-Minuteman measure.
People put forward nuisance amendments all the time, Michael Briggs, Sanderss top communications strategist and longtime aide, told BuzzFeed News. In this case, the Customs and Border Patrol [according to Sabo] said it was a meaningless thing and [Sanders] and Sabo voted for it.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/in-2006-bernie-sanders-voted-in-support-of-an-immigration-co#.syQNJ0KZB
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Voting records are part of a permanent record.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)UtahLib
(3,179 posts)shadowandblossom
(718 posts)Instead of taking responsibility, or giving his justification, he lies then deflects basically calling her a liar.
pandr32
(11,579 posts)He has excellent "judgment", morals, and foresight, etc.
Even when he doesn't.
riversedge
(70,197 posts)think he has used the term LIE--yet--but his fans sure have.
But you are right. And welcome to DU
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)St Bernard's halo is definitely smudged, off kilter. This is what purity tests will get you: outed because there are no Saints at the party. Any party.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)That is certainly the objective of this "expose along with others. To paint Bernie Sanders as a right-wing communist, terrorist supporter who loves dictatorships.
Throw enough crap against the wall and some of it will stick.
Response to imagine2015 (Reply #15)
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Cha
(297,154 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)silly oligarchs!
ConsiderThis_2016
(274 posts)Yet made no mention of his support for the minute men. Correct the record... David Brock is calling...
Cha
(297,154 posts)riversedge
(70,197 posts)Read the OP---Brook is NOT one of them--
yardwork
(61,599 posts)riversedge
(70,197 posts)that Sanders fans think that word is reserved for them to talk about Hillary. If Hillary said the sky was blue where she was --a fan would pop up in gd-p and say she LIED because the sky was gray where he/she is located geographically.. It is the way it goes lately
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)research.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)An article from the Revolutionary Communist Party of the USA
The Minutemen - Enforcers of Death on the Border & Promoters of Racist Hatred
From Mother Jones
The Meltdown of the Anti-Immigration Minuteman Militia
From the Internationalist.org
Protest Against NYC Provocation by Minutemen Anti-Immigrant Vigilantes
From the World Socialist Web Site
Vigilantes patrol US border: the politics of the Minuteman Project
You would think that anything to assist that virulent, anti-immigrant, white supremacist group would not have been opposed by Senator Sanders. Socialists particularly, detested this group.
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Thanks so much for the post, but their worshipful minds only accept reasons to hate Hillary, their sworn enemy.