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riversedge

(70,197 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:58 PM Mar 2016

Fact Checkers Agree: Bernie Sanders Voted To Protect The Minutemen

Last edited Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:08 AM - Edit history (1)

Well, we have a unanimous agreement



Fact Checkers Agree: Bernie Sanders Voted To Protect The Minutemen
http://correctrecord.org/fact-checkers-agree-bernie-sanders-voted-to-protect-the-minutemen/



At last night’s debate, Senator Sanders was confronted with his vote in support of an amendment to protect the “extreme nativist” vigilante group known as the Minutemen – and then flatly denied voting to support them.

JORGE RAMOS: Did you support the Minutemen? Did you support the Minutemen as the Secretary said?

BERNIE SANDERS: Of course not. There was a piece of legislation supported by dozens and dozens of members of the House which codified existing legislation.

The fact checkers have weighed in and concluded that Clinton was right:


Washington Post Fact Checker: “While Sanders suggested the measure was a small part of a larger bill, it was approved in a recorded vote as a stand-alone amendment.”
Politifact: “Still, as with Clinton’s charge about indefinite detention, her statement about Sanders supporting an amendment favorable to the Minutemen is largely accurate.”
Politico Wrongometer: “Actually, Sanders did vote to protect the Minutemen”
AP Fact Check: “THE FACTS: She was right about his vote”
Factcheck.org: “But in this case, Sanders voted in favor of a stand-alone amendment proposed by Minutemen-friendly Republicans. Sanders argued that the legislation merely codified existing policy, but it was opposed by a majority of Democrats.”

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Fact Checkers Agree: Bernie Sanders Voted To Protect The Minutemen (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2016 OP
voted against TARP which contained the auto-bailout also still_one Mar 2016 #1
I am glad to see this. Lucinda Mar 2016 #2
Interesting mcar Mar 2016 #3
I wish this could be posted in GD-P radical noodle Mar 2016 #4
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #5
Explaining Sanders' Meaningless Vote on This Issue Billsmile Mar 2016 #6
Appears to be another time in which Sanders did not caucus with Democrats. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #7
Of course he did. What else would be expected from the co-leader of the "AWM" revolution? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #8
k&r DesertRat Mar 2016 #9
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #10
I'm new here shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #11
Yep, his MO--nothing is ever his fault pandr32 Mar 2016 #22
I do not riversedge Mar 2016 #23
Clinton was right about Sanders’ Minuteman militia vote Gothmog Mar 2016 #12
Good to know SharonClark Mar 2016 #13
Very Good to Know peggysue2 Mar 2016 #14
So you think this proves Bernie is a extreme right-wing supporter of terrorist organizations? imagine2015 Mar 2016 #15
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #19
Don't even try to deflect.. it's NOT WORKING. Why didn't he own up to IT.. is the point. Cha Mar 2016 #21
St Bernard doesn't lie dlwickham Mar 2016 #16
SPLC agreed with Bernie's vote.. ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #17
That's not the point. Cha Mar 2016 #20
FIVE ***Fact Checkers Agree: Bernie Sanders Voted To Protect The Minutemen riversedge Mar 2016 #24
So Bernie lied? yardwork Mar 2016 #18
Well, you know riversedge Mar 2016 #25
I find this to be very disturbing. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #26
Of course it's fact and duly noted information when people do their Iliyah Mar 2016 #27
He voted to to protect the racist, nativist Minutemen, and then Obfuscated about it? (Some info) Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #28
You can't burden them with facts. Basic LA Mar 2016 #29
Thanks for posting some facts on this issue Gothmog Mar 2016 #30

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
4. I wish this could be posted in GD-P
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

Heads would explode. It's all just lies! They're saying means about Bernie!

Thanks for this. I had heard this before but was never sure about it.

Billsmile

(404 posts)
6. Explaining Sanders' Meaningless Vote on This Issue
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016
Rep. Olav Sabo, a Minnesota Democrat and ranking member on the Homeland Security Committee, was the sole member of his party to speak on the amendment.

“I claim the time in opposition; but, Mr. Chairman, I don’t rise in opposition,” he said. He said Customs officials had told him they already didn’t share information with the Mexican government except for where required by treaty.

“If people want to put it in the bill, I guess that is okay because it apparently does nothing,” he quipped.

The Sanders campaign cited Sabo’s vote when explaining Sanders’ support for the largely symbolic, pro-Minuteman measure.

“People put forward nuisance amendments all the time,” Michael Briggs, Sanders’s top communications strategist and longtime aide, told BuzzFeed News. “In this case, the Customs and Border Patrol [according to Sabo] said it was a meaningless thing and [Sanders] and Sabo voted for it.”


http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/in-2006-bernie-sanders-voted-in-support-of-an-immigration-co#.syQNJ0KZB

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Appears to be another time in which Sanders did not caucus with Democrats.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

Voting records are part of a permanent record.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
11. I'm new here
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

Instead of taking responsibility, or giving his justification, he lies then deflects basically calling her a liar.

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
22. Yep, his MO--nothing is ever his fault
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:29 PM
Mar 2016

He has excellent "judgment", morals, and foresight, etc.
Even when he doesn't.

riversedge

(70,197 posts)
23. I do not
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:04 AM
Mar 2016

think he has used the term LIE--yet--but his fans sure have.

But you are right. And welcome to DU

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
14. Very Good to Know
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

St Bernard's halo is definitely smudged, off kilter. This is what purity tests will get you: outed because there are no Saints at the party. Any party.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
15. So you think this proves Bernie is a extreme right-wing supporter of terrorist organizations?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:29 PM
Mar 2016

That is certainly the objective of this "expose along with others. To paint Bernie Sanders as a right-wing communist, terrorist supporter who loves dictatorships.

Throw enough crap against the wall and some of it will stick.

Response to imagine2015 (Reply #15)

ConsiderThis_2016

(274 posts)
17. SPLC agreed with Bernie's vote..
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:53 PM
Mar 2016

Yet made no mention of his support for the minute men. Correct the record... David Brock is calling...

riversedge

(70,197 posts)
24. FIVE ***Fact Checkers Agree: Bernie Sanders Voted To Protect The Minutemen
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:12 AM
Mar 2016

Read the OP---Brook is NOT one of them--

riversedge

(70,197 posts)
25. Well, you know
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

that Sanders fans think that word is reserved for them to talk about Hillary. If Hillary said the sky was blue where she was --a fan would pop up in gd-p and say she LIED because the sky was gray where he/she is located geographically.. It is the way it goes lately

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
28. He voted to to protect the racist, nativist Minutemen, and then Obfuscated about it? (Some info)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

An article from the Revolutionary Communist Party of the USA
The Minutemen - Enforcers of Death on the Border & Promoters of Racist Hatred
From Mother Jones
The Meltdown of the Anti-Immigration Minuteman Militia
From the Internationalist.org
Protest Against NYC Provocation by “Minutemen” Anti-Immigrant Vigilantes
From the World Socialist Web Site
Vigilantes patrol US border: the politics of the Minuteman Project

You would think that anything to assist that virulent, anti-immigrant, white supremacist group would not have been opposed by Senator Sanders. Socialists particularly, detested this group.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
29. You can't burden them with facts.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks so much for the post, but their worshipful minds only accept reasons to hate Hillary, their sworn enemy.

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