What did we ever do to you?

[sheshe2]

We birthed you. We raised you and we loved you. Why all this vicious hatred of women? Softly I cry. I don't get it. I don't get what we did to you.

You hate us. The filth that I have read here and allowed to stand is disheartening. Actually it is heartbreaking when posts on violence against women are allowed to stand. I read something about bricks the other day. Wow! Allowed to stand on a DEMOCRATIC BOARD.

Yes. I am upset. Deep breath, listen to this once again. This is for women and the strong sweet gentle loving men that stand with us.

Violence against women. WE SAY NO MORE!

[Cha]

1. Mahalo for this beautiful tribute to Women, she~

[sheshe2]

2. Ya...

I am so upset.

Love you Cha.

[Cha]

3. I know the feeling, she~

Good to get out in your brilliant post~

[sheshe2]

4. I am trying softly.

Quietly. They want me gone yet I want my message heard.

[yallerdawg]

13. You've been doing a remarkable job!

It's so much better to have you here!

Let's see what happens Tuesday!

[sheshe2]

26. Thanks...

crying here.

[Cha]

52. Sorry, you got a bogus hide, she.. the majority that run this site can't stand that

you have a voice with something important to say.

[stevenleser]

120. Yep, them that are 80% here and control juries, we see how you use that power.

Lord Acton's theory proved right yet again right before our eyes.

[fleabiscuit]

5. LOVE

[sheshe2]

9. I LOVE you too.

Hugs, flea.

[UtahLib]

6. Brought tears to my eyes, She

I fear that Democratic Underground is Democratic no more.

[fun n serious]

25. Me too. nt

[sheshe2]

28. Your sig ...

matches my vid.

[Rose Siding]

7. Thank you so much

One Woman is beautiful and new to me!

We have to talk about it but don't be discouraged. DU is a splash- a whisper. The hatred is meaningless to us. Give it no power. Soon it will be gone and women everywhere will have so much to celebrate!

[DemonGoddess]

8. K&R!

Lovely post!

[Lucinda]

10. ...

[SunSeeker]

11. Hate will lose. Love will win. Ok ladies, now let's get in formation!

[DURHAM D]

12. We are one woman.

[sheshe2]

14. I needed inner strenght tonight.

so I play it when I need it.

Tears. Yet these two vids make me strong.

[DURHAM D]

19. Yesterday I had a board meeting.

It is a non-governmental agency that provides some assistance to several hundred families a month in the community. The needs have increased and donations have not kept up. We were making hard decisions yesterday and some feelings were hurt as we went back and forth on where to cut expenses, etc. In the past decisions were always made by consensus with little disagreement.

The board is racially mixed and age diverse and I was concerned that some "camps" might be developing as we prepared to adjourn. I am the newest member of the board and maybe this has happened before but it was a new experience for me.

So, I asked everyone to wait a minute as I turned my laptop around on the conference table and mentioned that it was International Women's Day the day before and I thought we should all watch a video.

They gathered together in front of the screen and I watched as body language changed and faces softened as tears started running. Soon we were all holding hands. We all hugged each other and left speaking softly about the power of our common bond.

I ran some errands and by time I got home I had three messages on my phone. By mid-morning today I had several emails. I heard from every board member, all 10 of them. They were sharing One Woman with friends, daughters, granddaughters, and their mothers.

I think we are going to be okay and our mission holds.

[sheshe2]

23. You just made me cry.

Happy tears.

I heard from every board member, all 10 of them. They were sharing One Woman with friends, daughters, granddaughters, and their mothers.

For every woman. We are one woman.

To the women that stand together forever and the men that take our backs. Solidarity.

I thank you Durham.

[LoveMyCali]

93. I also shared these videos

with my belly dance group. A great example to the power we can have when we come together.

Thank you for this OP

[Coolest Ranger]

79. I saw where your post got hid

Alert on it so the admins can review it

[George II]

84. Yes, alert on that hide - one of the "explanations" actually had almost nothing to do with it at all

[stevenleser]

118. All of the folks who voted to hide that post should be banned from serving on juries. nt

[Firebrand Gary]

16. I will always stand with you Sheshe2!

Along with every woman who supports other women! Keep your head up Sheshe2!

[sheshe2]

18. We all try.

Thank you Gary. We shine.

[MADem]

20. Some of the vicious and cruel comments I have read, on DU and elsewhere,

DO seem to come from a place of unreasonable, almost pathological, hatred. (Jury-note I said "some"--no broad brushes, here).

I take comfort in the fact that these remarks say more about the person issuing them than anything else.

I also take comfort in the fact that this will be over soon.

Can't wait!

[sheshe2]

24. Your lips to gods ears.

Make it so. This needs to be over.

I am not here much anymore. It is to painful. The verbal and physical abuse here is....never mind it hurts.

That is all I will say.

[Cha]

66. It says everything about the person who's coming up with these depraved insults..

[CorkySt.Clair]

21. Nice post

I see we have one poster already belittling your post and your concerns. No surprise there.

[Aristus]

22. Thank you, sheshe2...

[sheshe2]

31. I love you Aristus.

Tears that women would be so vilified here. What did we do? WHAT did we do?

[Aristus]

86. Nothing, except being born women. Some people will never forgive you for that.

If that's their problem, I don't care. It's when they make it your problem, and the problem of all women, that I get angry.

Love you more, my lady...

[fun n serious]

27. The people that allowed the brick post to stand are just as bad as the people who posted it. nt

[SunSeeker]

29. Yup. It is literally calling for the fatal sadistic sexual assault of our leading female candidate.

It is beyond disgusting. How the admins can let it stand is unfathomable.

[sheshe2]

35. Yup....

Tears that it stood!

[SunSeeker]

38. That brick post should come with a trigger warning.

It reminds me of this story:

https://heteroloco.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/india-gang-rape-victim-reportedly-disemboweled-in-attack/

and this:

http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/02/anene-booysen-south-african-teen-gangraped-disemboweled-laid-rest-bredasdorp.html

[Hissyspit]

68. Can someone link to it?

[betsuni]

72. It's in GDP: "Thank you, Secretary Hillary Clinton" nt

[SunSeeker]

90. That misleading headline got Hillary supporters to click on it.

That whole OP seems like a set up for the brick comment to hit as many Hillary supporters as possible. That used to be called divisive shit stirring and over the top offensiveness. Now it gets 136 recs.

[betsuni]

103. I've noticed a lot of those misleading headlines lately.

GDP is a master class in trolling.

[Hissyspit]

99. Thanks. Found it.

[Hissyspit]

100. No it's not literal. It's figurative.

Offensive, but clearly figurative.

[SunSeeker]

107. Figuritive misogyny is still misogyny. nt

[Beaverhausen]

36. What was the "brick" post?

[Hissyspit]

101. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511459520

[Beaverhausen]

104. Thanks. I trashed GD-P a month ago

So glad I did.

Who are those people?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

110. Well I certainly didn't get that impression from the debate

Wonder which one the poster watched?

[obamanut2012]

75. I've been busy and not on much the last few days

PM me a link?

[William769]

30. Kick & very highly recommended!

[Silver_Witch]

32. I am beyond confused by this post.

Is this about people not voting or supporting Hillary Clinton or is this post about supporting woman and helping them fight for rights, freedom, equal pay, and freedom from watching their children dragged off to war by a corporatist america.

I thought that the Democratic Party was about letting people vote for who they think the best candidate will be and not based on ones sex or color. Am I wrong.

I am a staunch feminist and have myself struggled against oppression and abuse. To say that my vote for Bernie is "harming" women is an insult and actually pretty hurtful and certainly will not encourage me that Hillary is the candidate for me.

Thanks for posting so that Hillary and her supporters stanch is clear.

[johnp3907]

33. I agree.

You are indeed BEYOND CONFUSED.

[VulgarPoet]

34. Nahhhhh, we're supposed to be voting for labels!

Don't you know, if you don't vote for Hillary, you're somehow simultaneously a filthy commie AND a right-winger at the same damn time?

Can't wait for this primary to be over. This is the kind of crap that makes the rest of the world laugh at us.

[UtahLib]

37. You clearly have no idea what prompted this OP,

yet find it perfectly acceptable to insert your absurd hypothesis concerning Hillary supporters in a supposedly protected group. I think you have mischaracterized why the world might be laughing at us. It is a fact that Hillary is well respected throughout the world. Now, I would suggest that you refrain from posting in the Hillary Clinton group for which you hold such disdain.

[Cha]

47. Actually I think you have that have mixed. If you vote for Hillary you're voting for

the best Candidate for POTUS.

She has the experience, the knowledge, and the perseverance to get it Done.

We're looking forward to her being Madam President

[SunSeeker]

39. We are talking about a post in GDP that a jury allowed to stand 4-3.

It basically called for Hillary Clinton to be vaginally disemboweled "with a brick." Hence the references to the "brick post."

You are obviously not a Hillary supporter, so please do not come to the Hillary Group to insult us or our candidate.

[Cha]

46. You obviously didn't read the post well enough.. it's very straight forward and in no way

implies that you are a victim in anything the OP wrote about.

[DURHAM D]

40. OMG You are going to love this.

Shonda Rhimes Hillary-Clinton-endorsement-ad-featuring-the-women-of-Shondaland

[UtahLib]

42. Thank you so much for posting this!

With all the twisted commentary surrounding us, we should constantly remind ourselves that we are supporting the best and most qualified candidate.

[betsuni]

41. Have you seen the GDP thread about your post?

The usual.

[UtahLib]

44. I think it's posted in the BS group

[betsuni]

45. There's one in GDP too then.

[UtahLib]

48. I should have realized, any misguided opportunity to denigrate

Hillary supporters.

[betsuni]

50. The one in the Sanders group is more fun, including "as a feminist myself."

Heh.

[UtahLib]

51. Yeah, I caught that.

[SunSeeker]

58. Right. Because feminists think impaling a woman vaginally with a brick is not sexist. At all.

[Tarheel_Dem]

43. K&R!

[SunSeeker]

49. She, I can't believe you've been silenced in your own thread over a picture of Beyonce.

A 7-0 hide for posting a picture of Beyonce flipping the bird from her Formation video. You didn't even use the f-word. You just posted the picture and the word "Boom!" That's it. It is obvious you were responding in solidarity to my posting of Beyonce's video of her performing Formation at the Superbowl. I can't imagine what those jurors were thinking. It is obvious you were not attacking anyone. Maybe those jurors did not recognize that the picture was of Beyonce, but since when are pictures of people shooting the bird verboten? There are several posters here whose avatar is someone shooting the bird.

And yet a jury let stand the post in GDP that started all this. It used the f-word. It used sexually violent language toward a woman.

Disgusting.

[Cha]

56. I know SunSeeker.. I truly wish Skinner would take a long hard look at this.. and really

look at the post that was allowed to stand and this one that got a 7-0 hide for posting a pic of Beyoncé from her Reformation Vid!

Skinner's the only one who can put a stop to us losing our valued members from DU.

[UtahLib]

57. Oh, we know what's in the air and it is rancid.

[KitSileya]

59. The BS supporters are working hard to silence all the HRC supporters

That much is abundantly clear. They are alerting and trying to hide all posts that they can twist into being negative, even when it is a picture of Beyoncé flipping the bird in a video for a song that is about police violence against Black people. I eman, really, how un-liberal can you get?

And if this post is hidden, the jury is simply confirming exactly what I have said.

[gwheezie]

53. I'm about to get a hide

In another thread but that brick thing was disgusting and it survived a jury.

[SunSeeker]

54. She just got a hide in this thread for posting a picture of Beyonce.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=69895

[gwheezie]

55. How does that even happen?

And why do people hate Beyonce? Why are some Bernie supporters™ so angry? How does a Hillary supporters get a hide in the Hillary group? Some Bernie supporters™ are going to have a very difficult election season.

[jmowreader]

116. I'd like to say it's simple, but it's not

This is the unstated theme song of the Bernie Brigade:

It should be pretty easy to understand WHY they can't play that at Bernie's pep rallies.

They're angry because they come from a generation that's never heard the word "no" before. Now they're asking for things that simply can't be done, and they're taking it out on everyone when someone tells them, "we can't do that." If you've been in General Discussion-Bernie for more than a minute, you've probably noticed some variation on this graphic: a picture of Hillary Clinton with the words "No We Can't!" written on it. Well, ya know something? In some cases we really can't. No one can.

A Hillary supporter gets a hide in the Hillary group because DU was never designed for the possibility of an internecine war. The system allows any member to alert on a post no matter where in the board it is, and allows any member to serve on the jury for that post. In the open part of DU (which many of us refer to as "Bernie Underground&quot that system makes sense. In the Groups it's a different story: we're getting to the point where there needs to be a "Candidates" section in the Groups menu, you can only join one candidate's group, and you need to be a member of that group to alert on or jury posts in it. Since we don't have that, the Bernie people are running roughshod over the Hillary group.

[Number23]

60. I'm recing this thread SOLELY for that stupid assed hide

[SunSeeker]

61. Thank you. nt

[Cha]

65. Mahalo 23~ sheshe thanks you!

[lovemydog]

71. Same here!

[betsuni]

63. It's still not hidden, what's taking so long?

Thank you for your sacrifice.

[Hissyspit]

69. Why will no one link to it?

[cwydro]

82. I tried to find it and can't.

I wanted to at least respond to that filth.

[Hekate]

62. Solidarity forever. By the way: You Rock

[Surya Gayatri]

64. Lovely thread, SheShe. Sorry you've been locked out and silenced due to that outrageous hide.

See here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110769975#post12

[William769]

70. Kicking for sheshe!

[NBachers]

73. Consistent, soft power and determination will always win over seething hate and brutality.

That is an excellent video, Sheshe, thank you for posting it. Please know that your family is here, gathered around you, filled with love and support. Our arms are open to embrace you.

You are here for the Long Haul. You were here before this current wave of violence and abuse started, and you will be here after it has subsided

May you have beautiful, wonderful, and peaceful dreams every time you sleep.

.

[romana]

74. K&R!!!

I am appalled at the misogyny and racism that is allowed to stand on this site. Skinner, your silence and inaction is your approval. By doing nothing you are telling us this is what you want your site to be.

[DemonGoddess]

76. KICK!

[yardwork]

77. Beautiful post! Stay strong. We got your back.

[72DejaVu]

78. The mask is off

The Sanders campaign, either with or without Fearless Leader's acquiescence, has developed into a full fledged authoritarian movement.

[jsmirman]

81. They literally cannot brook the idea that somewhere, anywhere, people are expressing disagreement

with their opinions.

That is chilling and creepy.

I don't remember anything of the sort from the lot of us early adopters on the Obama campaign.

There were harsh words spoken at this point or that, for sure, but there was never anything approaching an attempt at thought control and stamping out opposing views.

[Fla Dem]

80. There are men in the Hillary Group who share our concerns and disgust.

Let's not forget them. They have our backs. They are kindred spirits. We love them all.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

111. Yes I'm one of them

Seriously I don't like Sarah Palin but I certainly don't think she should be raped. What's wrong with those Sanders supporters who think Hillary should? I think they're a minority but the others who are silent on this have me wondering.

[NastyRiffraff]

117. Indeed there are, plenty of men

Thanks to all of them! After all the misogyny elsewhere, it's wonderful to see them here.

to all those men!

[Gothmog]

83. K&R

[Laser102]

85. K&R!

[GusBob]

87. and yet another link to a HILL group in GDP

their fixation on this group borders on creepy

[PeaceNikki]

88. Not "borders on". It's deep deep into creepy territory.

[MADem]

102. I am astounded, myself. Never seen anything like this here, ever. nt

[JohnnyLib2]

89. Kick, already recommended

[SheenaR]

91. I am a woman

And I appreciate your advocacy for us.

But I would feel more comfortable if you did not attempt to speak for us in absolute terms. There is hatred all around us, coming from men and women of both camps. I do not feel hated as a woman here even by members of this group.

But I thank you for your advocacy.

[UtahLib]

94. "I posted a nice response. I will finally get banned."

Sound familiar to you SheenaR? Makes one wonder as to your motive for coming into the Hillary group to chastise and lecture a poster who is no longer able to respond due to, once again, being alert stalked from this board. I don't know why you assume that Sheshe2 is attempting to speak for all women. It's more than obvious to me that she is speaking only for herself based on confusion and hurt as why anyone would post such filthy invective toward a woman simply because he doesn't support her candidacy. Sheshe shared her concerns and disappointment with people she trusts and yet, someone found it perfectly acceptable to censor her. You might consider looking to your own backyard for the opportunity to provide some sorely needed advice in decency. I truly hope you are more honorable and mature than to post here in hopes of gaining what your fellows consider to be a badge of honor to place in your sig line.

[SheenaR]

95. Yes. I wrote it

It's a sad state of affairs that a nice response elicits getting banned. It has happened to several of my fellow group members. That was my point. Sorry you interpreted it as otherwise.

My response to the OP was absolutely genuine.

[UtahLib]

96. As I recommended

you might be as concerned with helping to clean your own backyard as you are with a post in the Hillary group with which you have issues.

[Cha]

106. Maybe you should tell that to the BS group then. Instead of coming in here and telling us

what a sad state of affairs our place is. I'm not buying it.

This is our Group for Hillary Supporters. I have no clue what posters you're talking about that got blocked for "nice responses" as you say. I'm betting they were "nice responses" like you think you're giving about the "sad state of affairs". But, we're not here to argue that point.

We're here to support Hillary for POTUS and to support our members which we are doing in this thread.

Your response may have been "genuine" but you got it wrong.

if a Hillary supporter went into BS' group and said what a "sad state of affairs" it was they'd be blocked in a NY second. So why should you be entitled to anymore consideration here?

At least you're getting an explanation why you're blocked..

[Spazito]

92. Beautiful OP, sheshe!

I am appalled you have been silenced but know also you are incredibly strong and will not stop posting the truth no matter how hard some may try to hide it.

[still_one]

98. A huge K&R

[rbrnmw]

105. k&r

[postatomic]

108. A very beautiful post

Without a large number of courageous women this world would be in a whole lot worst shape. Oh, and music and dance is the only thing that unites us all. It speaks to everyone.

Don't fret the poser and his brick post. It'd be nice if the Admins would make a point and stand up to this shit, but I don't see that happening.

I proudly stand with the Women for Hillary.

Now let's see if my reply gets hidden. And I had just dug myself out of the jury hole. Oh well.

[Skid Rogue]

109. Such a beautiful post.

Me and my partner just bookmarked that first song. Thank you so much.

And please don't worry about the haters. We're going to win this.

Happy thought: We're about to make history. Our daughters will grow up knowing their mothers elected Hillary.

[stevenleser]

112. K&R nt

[Beacool]

113. We have come a long way, but we still have a long road to travel.

[PM Martin]

114. 100th rec' right here!

[Starry Messenger]

115. K&R

[stevenleser]

119. The fact that you got your 5th hide in a non offensive response under this OP of yours

shows how far DU has fallen.