Fascination with the comments from Bernie supporters regarding last night...

[trumad]

You guys know that they are going to have a rough time accepting reality and they won't go quietly.

[Loki]

1. Losing is never easy nor is it comfortable to see your champion go down.

But this is life, and this is what we all try to teach our children is how to be a good loser. Get knocked down, but get up to fight another day. The whole purpose is to keep this country safe from a Republican president, senate and house. That should be our #1 priority, and it will be for those who love this country.

[86derps]

12. You dont get it Hillary supporters

This is a Revolution to change establishment politics not just get a democract elected president. And yes that includes Bernie being president. This is why he will keep fighting in the primaries and beyond. He will keep Hillary from tacking to the center, because as long as Bernie is leading the Revolution it will expose Hillary as really not a liberal progressive democrat, but rather a Blue Dog democrat.

Keep the revolution going, this is just the beginning.

[Loki]

13. 2 posts, and this is all you have?

I've been around a lot longer and I've seen it all. You think this is a revolution, well revolutions have to start from the bottom up not from the top down. Without a 60 vote firewall, it's just so much chatter. Anyone with any political acumen knows that, and we've had it up close and personal for the last 8 years, and it won't change until we change the entire system. Work on that. It's hard work and believe me, I've worked on this in my state of Missouri and previously in Texas for a very long time.

[Cha]

14. You don't get it, derps. the Reality Revolution started in 2008 and it's still going on.. Hillary

will carry it through starting in 2017.

BS was late.

[KitSileya]

15. One candidate has used the last 30 years to work hard in order to keep Congress out of R hands

Supporting down-ticket races, fundraising, networking. The other gets angry enough to leave an interview when asked why that candidate refuses to endorse in any other races. And who is bringing the revolution again?

It doesn't matter if Bernie got a million people to do another Occupy DC outside of Congress.That means nothing so long as tea party candidates rule the House of Representatives and the Senate. If you want a revolution (a peaceful one, that is, and how bleeding privileged are those that want armed revolution that they do' care about any minorities) you work to elect the presidential candidate that works to make sure Congress is blue. You work to get blue state congresses. You work to get lawful change, both to the system if you don't like it, and to society. That is what the tea partiers did, and see how effective their strategy is. They successfully blocked almost all of Obama's progressive legislation. Do the same to them, and then, with a Dem president, you will get a proper revolution that won't kill women, children and other minorities.

[trumad]

16. 87 derps---

The 87th being you posted in this group.

[obamanut2012]

26. Mmeber since Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:15 PM -- two posts

Waited almost a year and a half to post?

[jmowreader]

31. You don't get it 86derps

This is a Protected Group for Hillary supporters only. Do not bring this kind of trash into it.

[charlyvi]

32. The Revolution kind of fizzled on 3-15, no?

You don't get it, do you? This is the Hillary group. Go join your revolutionaries elsewhere.

[book_worm]

2. Yep, and now the map for the next month

will favor them and they will get cocky again even though there victories will (again) be in smaller caucus states primarily.

[Lucinda]

4. I'm not so sure it will

Hillary will have momentum, and Sanders message is already out there now...I'm not sure it will be breaking any new ground.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. And I expect Sanders to go increasingly negative which serves only one purpose at this point, and

that is to help Republicans. Knowing that there's no plausible path to the nomination, it's a vanity campaign at this point. He can stay in as long as he likes, but he should reconsider the negative tone toward the inevitable nominee.

[BlueMTexpat]

29. Even where he wins, Hillary will

still pick up delegates.

The fact of "winning" is heartening, yes. But the accompanying fact of not being able to claw into Hillary's delegate lead by more than a comparatively few delegates will be less so once it really sinks in, as it will have to.

I remember how I felt in 2004 when my candidate, Howard Dean, was simply not going to make it. I of course regrouped and voted for Kerry. I was also disappointed in 2008, but I really liked Hillary and Barack about the same, so I wasn't heartbroken and Barack was an inspiring candidate to get behind for the general.

The mourning period will take some time before healing begins. Right now, they're still determined to go on - and that's fine, IMO. Just so long as they do not gratuitously trash Hillary when they do so.

[Bleacher Creature]

3. A lot will depend on Bernie.

He and his team look at the same map as us, and he's been in politics long enough to know that it's over. He's welcome to stick around to keep pushing his message, but at some point it's going to do more harm than good. It's also cruel to keep misleading your supporters and taking their money when you know it's a lost cause.

I really believe that he will ultimately do what's right in order to prevent a possible Trump or Cruz Presidency. BERNIE then needs to be the one to tell them that it's over, and he needs to tell them that anything short of affirmatively voting for HRC is lunacy.

This will define his legacy. I'm not 100% certain of most things, but I am absolutely positive that HRC would not be in the position she is in today had she chosen a different path in 2008.

[KitSileya]

5. I wish I was as optimistic as you.

Since he has no real loyalty to the Democratic party - he has not put years into building the party, nor does he intend to stay in a member of it, if his Senate campaign filing for 2018 is to believed - I am not sure that the welfare of the party and the future of the nominee is going to be a big factor in his decisions in the next couple of months.

I am definitely sure that HRC wouldn't be where she is today if she hadn't gone all in for Obama after her defeat, but for Sanders that is not important. This was his one and only shot at the nomination. In 4 years he'll be too old.

[Bleacher Creature]

6. I don't think it's about the next election.

Sanders isn't running again, but he also doesn't want to be known as the guy who gave us Trump or Cruz.

Ralph Nader made a number of really positive contributions to society before 2000. He is personally responsible for making cars safer and he founded Public Citizen, which is a very strong voice for progressive change (and which disavowed Nader after 2000).

And yet, he'll go down in history as the guy who gave us George Bush - and rightfully so. It's not that I have tremendous faith in Bernie. I just can't imagine that he's going to want a similar legacy.

[KitSileya]

7. That's a good point.

I guess only time will tell which of us are right I sincerely hope you are.

[wryter2000]

8. I have to agree

If Bernie had wanted to be Ralph Nader, he would have run as an independent. As much as I despise SOME of his supporters, I've listened to him for too many years on Thom Hartmann, and I can't believe he's in this for Bernie.

[MinnieBlum]

11. He's unlikely to go quietly

This is the first time in Bernie's life he has had anybody paying attention to him. A very heady experience. He started out as a protest candidate and must have been shocked by how many people were buying his message. You could see his ego grow as the primary season went on. I don't see him bowing out gracefully.

If he does mount an independent campaign, I think most of his support will disappear. The Nader example is too recent.

[pandr32]

19. I've noticed it, too.

He is human and the power he has never experienced before kind of went to his head.

[MinnieBlum]

22. Yeah I kinda feel sorry for him

He's been obscure for so many years and suddenly he's all over TV! His wife seems to be pushing him too. Good for him. He's had his brush with fame. But if he continues to try to undermine the Democratic candidate, he'll have a brush with infamy. Such a shame that Nader's sterling reputation was destroyed by ushering Dubya into the WH.

[obamanut2012]

27. Also betting he would loooove a cabinet post

Although, i'd rather a real labor activist at labor than bernie, but i could lie with him there.

[CajunBlazer]

10. It is really up to Bernie

Bernie will remain in the race, probably into the convention unless Hillary can earn enough pledged delegates to cinch the nomination without the super delegates.

I think what will be important is the tone that Bernie adopts going forward. The question is whether he is going to back off of the attacks on Hillary (like - show us a copy of the speeches you gave to Wall Street) are is he going to concentrate only on his message (all of the wealth is going to the top 1%) and attack the Republicans.

I'm guessing that for the time being at least he is going to keep up the attacks and may even intensify them because, like his supporters, I think that has always been a lot more enthusiastic about his chances than reality allowed and I don't think that is going to change now. Maybe later when Hillary's nomination becomes even more inevitable he will back off, but he will never drop out completely.

As for his supporters on DU, I think their approaches will vary. I see a few have read the writing on the wall and are already leaving DU. They were only here for Bernie and never intended to stay if Bernie didn't have a chance at the nomination. Others will need a lot more convincing before they leave or switch allegiances, and that switch will not be easy. Hopefully time will heal the wounds. Other will stay and keep the fact that they would never vote for Hillary hidden so that they can maintain their DU privileges.

The real question that remains is when will Skinner lower the boom and make it clear that criticism of the presumptive nominee will not be tolerated. That might be sooner than later, or it might be when Sanders has no mathematical chance of winning, or he may wait until after the convention. Who knows - certainly not I.

[trumad]

17. Oh Skinner will absolutely lower the boom.

He may give a day or two grace period---but he won't let anyone tear down the Dem nominee. That would have been the same if Bernie won.

[Treant]

18. I hope you're right!

Kos lowered the banhammer this morning as Clinton is the presumptive nominee at this point. Skinner will hopefully follow suit shortly.

[CajunBlazer]

21. The question is when will he consider Hillary the nominee

[Politicub]

9. They're sore when they win. They're sore when they lose.

I stopped trying to understand the Bern rash. Although I am still fascinated by it.

[JSup]

23. Well to be fair...

...while all of the Hillary supporters I have seen this cycle lose graciously, some of us don't win so graciously.

[Politicub]

25. That's true, too

I do think we lose more gracefully. But that's the pragmatism I guess.

[hamsterjill]

20. I fear your are correct, but I hope things work out better.

Hillary is the presumptive nominee. That is fact. She's not been nominated yet, but she is the logical possibility at this juncture. Sanders supporters seem to be fighting that truth.

I understand about losing. I remember supporting Al Gore and John Kerry, and having to live with George Bush.

But the degree of venom against Hillary has reached a new level and a new low. I think the numerous comments that I see on a daily basis about Sanders supporters refusing to support Hillary WHEN she is the nominee have greatly divided and weakened DU. Most Hillary supporters that I've seen have been quick to say that should the nominee be Bernie Sanders, that they would vote for him.

Hillary supports have the maturity to see that we must keep Republicans out of the White House. Many Sanders supporters (certainly not all, but many) don't seem to have the maturity to understand the ultimate goal.

I hope all of the venom and animosity changes soon once Hillary is the official nominee. These Sanders supporters will need to either get behind Hillary or get off this, a DEMOCRATIC discussion board.

[72DejaVu]

24. 350 bernie supporters attended my caucus in Maine

When asked who would like to serve on the county committee, 6 of them raised their hands.

There ain't no revolution.

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. "......6 of them raised their hands. There ain't no revolution." So, as many of us have suspected..

this was & has always been just about Bernie. Not the Democratic Party, or the country for that matter. Much like the Trump phenomenon, it's ALL about personalities. <<<<shakes head>>>>

[Stuckinthebush]

33. "There ain't no revolution"

Best line on DU today.