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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:30 PM Mar 2016

If Bernie Supporters couldn't understand the rules of the Arizona primary, just wait until....

they find out that (unless they are a registered Democrat) they are "shit out of luck" for New York State!

They would have had to change their affiliation six months ago in October.

here is the rule:

To Change Your Party Affiliation
You can change your party affiliation by obtaining a Voter Registration Form, indicating the change and sending it to the Board of Elections. We will process the information and send you a new voter card reflecting the change in party. You cannot CHANGE your enrollment and vote in the NEW PARTY of your choice in the same year. Please Note: a change of enrollment will go into affect one week following the General Election. The last day to change your enrollment is the same as the last day to register for the General Election (25 days prior to the date of the General Election).


The change won't go into effect until the middle of November....too late already!
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If Bernie Supporters couldn't understand the rules of the Arizona primary, just wait until.... (Original Post) Walk away Mar 2016 OP
Many have NO IDEA how this works bravenak Mar 2016 #1
Glad you can get to the caucus. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #33
They are complaining that there is something shady going on! pandr32 Mar 2016 #2
It's always everyone else's fault. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #5
When your candidate's campaign is premised on... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #6
The kids on my instagram account GusBob Mar 2016 #3
it's your duty to hold their hand and explain everything to them dlwickham Mar 2016 #34
No independents playing games in our primary. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #4
Absoutely! And if they pull this "demanding to vote" crap they will be arrested. Walk away Mar 2016 #8
In nyc we have police in the polling places. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #11
^^^ THIS ^^^. I wish it was this way nationwide. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #26
Same situation in PA. I work at the polls and every Primary election livetohike Mar 2016 #7
Maybe they can sue a week before the primary, just like they a week or two ago in Ohio.... George II Mar 2016 #9
Que the outgage workinclasszero Mar 2016 #10
Who wants to bet 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #12
Good luck in New Your State. They will probably be fined for... Walk away Mar 2016 #13
He's screwed in PA as well Trenzalore Mar 2016 #14
Does it seem to some those running his campaign either do not have knowledge to advise their Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #15
I just can't believe he had the balls to say he thinks he can win NY knowing that.... Walk away Mar 2016 #19
No it's on Bernie, life-long member of the You're Not Good Enough Party. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #30
Your right, Bernie the Quisling! Walk away Mar 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Bryan Mar 2016 #50
It explains why Bernie's senior advisor Tad Devine former campaigns have been losers. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #49
I was neutral until this central scrutinizer Mar 2016 #16
Oh bullshit. stopbush Mar 2016 #18
This rule was put in place to stop people from different parties from.... Walk away Mar 2016 #20
Well said. johnp3907 Mar 2016 #24
So I live in Missouri. Loki Mar 2016 #25
"Neutral until this"? Cool story, dude! Hekate Mar 2016 #28
(shaking head) Treant Mar 2016 #29
Anybody is welcome to express an opinion, absolutley free of charge bluestateguy Mar 2016 #31
When you try to fix an election and lose, guess what? William769 Mar 2016 #36
Howard Zinn - "You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train" eom fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #52
This just proves that DavidDvorkin Mar 2016 #17
Seems to me Bernie needed someone who could understand the rules for each states primary. Walk away Mar 2016 #22
isn't that one of the jobs of a campaign manager? dlwickham Mar 2016 #35
According to the Bernie Followers here, It was Hillary's job to make sure.... Walk away Mar 2016 #37
I remember reading that dlwickham Mar 2016 #39
Bernie Sanders followers rules...... Loki Mar 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Mar 2016 #38
Hey! He can name Post Offices.... Walk away Mar 2016 #42
Too Effing Bad They Can't Have It Both Ways Tommy2Tone Mar 2016 #21
Surely they're not children. How hard is it to actually learn what the rules of the road are? Hekate Mar 2016 #27
Hard to do Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #40
Thank you for this, Walk away~ Cha Mar 2016 #41
Hi Cha! Fun fact right??? Walk away Mar 2016 #43
So glad Arizona was Dems only.. why should Indies get to decide our Primary? Cha Mar 2016 #44
After we get through the next few caucuses and the states get bigger.... Walk away Mar 2016 #45
Quite well I would imagine. Cha Mar 2016 #46
K&R. nt UtahLib Mar 2016 #47
You really need a lot of groundwork... JSup Mar 2016 #48
And that groundwork begins years in advance of the election, not the weekend before. baldguy Mar 2016 #51

pandr32

(11,447 posts)
2. They are complaining that there is something shady going on!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

I suspect if Hillary does as well as we all expect her to we will run into a whole lot of accusations of wrongdoing.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. When your candidate's campaign is premised on...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:41 PM
Mar 2016

"politics is rigged and the system is corrupt" we can expect nothing less.

We need to keep our eye on the Sander's campaign managers.

This is smelling more and more like a "long con."








GusBob

(7,286 posts)
3. The kids on my instagram account
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

In a closed primary state.....

"If you are undecided, independent or unregistered #"FEELTHEBERN"

Registration had closed 3 weeks prior, and well it was party only vote.

Didn't have the heart to tell them

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
8. Absoutely! And if they pull this "demanding to vote" crap they will be arrested.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:46 PM
Mar 2016

New York is serious about elections, New Jersey too. You can not play stupid at polling areas. They will call the police and the police will come.

livetohike

(22,084 posts)
7. Same situation in PA. I work at the polls and every Primary election
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

we have a few Independents come in who think they can vote.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Maybe they can sue a week before the primary, just like they a week or two ago in Ohio....
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:46 PM
Mar 2016

............

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
12. Who wants to bet
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:59 PM
Mar 2016

that the "Revolutionaries" try to get the courts to count the independents.

'Cause nothing says REVOLUTION like filing a good lawsuit.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
14. He's screwed in PA as well
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

You need to change your registration a month before. Obama had people on the ground in PA 3 weeks before the requirement to facilitate some registration transfers. I don't believe Bernie has deployed here yet.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. Does it seem to some those running his campaign either do not have knowledge to advise their
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

supporters or just did not care.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
19. I just can't believe he had the balls to say he thinks he can win NY knowing that....
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:40 PM
Mar 2016

he rag-tag coalition of independents, republicans and naderites would not be able to vote for him at all. He would have had to have sent people in to NY October 1st in order to get registered voters to change.

That's the fault of the top tier in the campaign and that's Jeff Weaver. That is just amateurish!

LuvLoogie

(6,855 posts)
30. No it's on Bernie, life-long member of the You're Not Good Enough Party.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

Never involved in party organization, party dynamics, electoral rules. As a member of Congress, he could vote on a bill as an unaffiliated rep.

But his aim is not to lead, to govern. His aim is to fuel mistrust in the system and tear it down. To alienate a key demographic from the process. His aim is to DRIVE DOWN turnout, not raise it.

Response to Walk away (Reply #32)

LiberalFighter

(50,504 posts)
49. It explains why Bernie's senior advisor Tad Devine former campaigns have been losers.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

Dukasis
Gore
Kerry

central scrutinizer

(11,617 posts)
16. I was neutral until this
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:35 PM
Mar 2016

These "arguments" are indistinguishable from: "$5.00 is nothing, if a voter doesn't have it, he shouldn't be allowed to vote." Or anything thrown up to disenfranchise people. I would hope that my party, the democratic party (lower case was intentional, despite goddam autocorrect), wants to make it easier, not more difficult, to express an opinion.

stopbush

(24,378 posts)
18. Oh bullshit.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

Do people have no responsibility whatsoever when it comes to their voting?

Screw em. They've disenfranchised themselves.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
20. This rule was put in place to stop people from different parties from....
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

sabotaging primaries. NYS had problems with this and fixed them with this rule. If you are going to run for president you should hire someone to at least understand the rules.

If you can't hire someone who can keep your finances or primary rules straight, perhaps you aren't capable of running a country.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
25. So I live in Missouri.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

Our primary was an open primary. This was a close race here, you know that. But if you look deeper, all the counties that went to Mr. Bernie Sanders were in the deep red tea party abyss. All you had to do was show up at your polling place and ask for a ballot either Repuke or Democrat. Guess who got so many of those deep red tea party counties that Trump won by double digits? You know who don't you? So that kind of primary is just alright with you, as long as the other party sabotages your candidate. Live long enough,you learn politics isn't for the faint of heart or the clueless.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
29. (shaking head)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:38 PM
Mar 2016

Sorry, kids. In Pennsylvania, the Legislature (and I) say(s) that if you can't be arsed to register for the party a month before the election, you don't get to decide who the party's representative is in the election.

I've been registered Democrat(ic) for years. I get to vote in their primaries. I do not get to choose to carpetbag over to the Republicans and decide their elections unless I change my registration.

Independents have stated that they're NOT a member of either party. So guess what? They do NOT get to choose the candidates in either party. That's the price, and it's laid out quite clearly in the rules.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
31. Anybody is welcome to express an opinion, absolutley free of charge
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

Voting, however, requires one to register with the party.

That too is free of charge, but it requires a little initiative taking, and not excuse-making.

William769

(55,124 posts)
36. When you try to fix an election and lose, guess what?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:43 PM
Mar 2016

Tough shit. You want to run a Presidential campaign hire people that know what the hell they are doing.

The so called revolution just isn't enough. Don't believe me? Look who's winning!

DavidDvorkin

(19,406 posts)
17. This just proves that
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

We need a political revolution in this country!

And also

Wall Street money is corrupting our political process!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
22. Seems to me Bernie needed someone who could understand the rules for each states primary.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

Even revolutionaries need basic reading skills.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
37. According to the Bernie Followers here, It was Hillary's job to make sure....
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders' voters got a ride to the polls and had their voter registration cards printed up and laminated!

Loki

(3,825 posts)
23. Bernie Sanders followers rules......
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:49 PM
Mar 2016

You just don't like the rules when it doesn't go your way. You know, my way or the highway rules.

Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #17)

Cha

(295,926 posts)
44. So glad Arizona was Dems only.. why should Indies get to decide our Primary?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:43 AM
Mar 2016

Our Dem base should.. Indies are fickle.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
45. After we get through the next few caucuses and the states get bigger....
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:55 AM
Mar 2016

and more Democrats only in Democrat's primaries, things will go a lot faster. Bernie needs to get back to his day job. How are they functioning without him?

JSup

(740 posts)
48. You really need a lot of groundwork...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

...to win an election or you run into problems like this.

I am rather gladdened that to win a primary you need to prove not only your 'popularity' but also your hiring, planning, networking and organizational skills. Because without those skills you're really not going to know how to run a nation.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
51. And that groundwork begins years in advance of the election, not the weekend before.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 07:30 AM
Mar 2016

Groundwork is just too much - - work - - for the Sanders supporters.

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