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some of sanders supporters will not vote for hillary. (Original Post) DesertFlower Mar 2016 OP
They're probably not Democrats Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #1
and some don't have the guts to admit to being Ron Paul fanbois KittyWampus Mar 2016 #15
Yes. Pretty much all my friends who support Sanders supported Paul before. KitSileya Mar 2016 #20
So they say. Treant Mar 2016 #2
We will have to get the 1st female president all by our lonesome Her Sister Mar 2016 #3
here's a more recent link talking about DesertFlower Mar 2016 #4
I don't remember Hillary setting conditions to the Obama campaign.... Historic NY Mar 2016 #5
Well, to be fair, Hillary wasn't trying to destroy the Democratic party! Walk away Mar 2016 #22
If you're a Democrat, yes. Basic LA Mar 2016 #6
Here is what I find... quickesst Mar 2016 #7
i agree. nt DesertFlower Mar 2016 #8
I am gonna go ahead and agree with you there. nt Quayblue Mar 2016 #10
What are they going to do... quickesst Mar 2016 #19
Free country creon Mar 2016 #9
If you can't even vote defensively against the right-wing, you are no ally of ours. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #11
The 14% BernieOrBust voters make up only a small percentage of Ameridcan Voteres CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #12
They'll just go back to voting Green, or whatever. Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #13
one Nader voter ! Her Sister Mar 2016 #14
LOL! Thank you. That was great. Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #16
Yes! but says will vote for HRC in the General! Her Sister Mar 2016 #17
the night before that election my friend DesertFlower Mar 2016 #18
I voted for Nader in 2000 sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #21
Ay, but here's the rub: "IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT..." Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #23

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
20. Yes. Pretty much all my friends who support Sanders supported Paul before.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:03 AM
Mar 2016

They don't see the disconnect between supporting a libertarian and supporting a socialist. However, I guess the thing they have in common is that they are good for white people in liberal Oregon - the rest of the country not so much.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
2. So they say.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:04 PM
Mar 2016

Many will come around as election day approaches and Donald Trump becomes a frightening reality.

Some aren't Democrats, don't vote Democrat, have never voted Democrat, and we never had them in the first place. No loss, they'll claim they voted for Obama to try and sound relevant, but they didn't.

Some--a very few--really mean it and will stay home. But that would be true no matter who's the nominee and the magnitude is no greater than the reverse if Sanders were nominated.

At its heart, it's a scare tactic to try to get people to support Sanders and nothing more. Like most scare tactics, it deserves only the most base of answers that I can't repeat here. But I'm sure thinking it.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
22. Well, to be fair, Hillary wasn't trying to destroy the Democratic party!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:56 AM
Mar 2016

She was just an actual Democrat running for the nomination of a party she has supported for over 40 years.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
7. Here is what I find...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:51 PM
Mar 2016

... WTF-ish. It just seems weird to see those who will not vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the nominee get on this board and tell everyone how scary the DerTrumpenfeuhrer is, and how he's going to destroy our country out of one side of their mouth, then say they will not vote for the Democratic nominee if it's Hillary out of the other side.How the hell do they reconcile that bullshit? I will say it and I don't think it's out of line. Anyone who believes Hillary is as bad as Trump, is either being willfully ignorant, with a heaping helping of selfish ego, or dumber than a box of rocks.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
19. What are they going to do...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

... when Hillary wins the nomination? Are they going to suddenly stop attacking Trump? Really, if they are going to not vote for a democrat in the general election, we shouldn't have to sit here and listen to them cry, piss, and moan about something they could have had a part in stopping. If, er, when Hillary becomes the Democratic nominee, one can only hope they will do the honorable thing and leave DU, which as I understand it, is a place for Democrats to support other Democrats, and not a place to bemoan an independent's failed campaign who switched to democrat for convenience sake. This is a specific group I'm talking about and it does not include all of Bernie's supporters.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
12. The 14% BernieOrBust voters make up only a small percentage of Ameridcan Voteres
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:18 PM
Mar 2016

And even a good percentage of them will come around.

Most of those who will vote for the totally unqualified Green Party candidate, Jill Stein, haven't voted for Democratic nominees in a long time.

While polls showing that Hillary will beat Trump are too early to be truly meaningful, they are also not flukes. Almost a quarter of normally Republican voters claim they will not vote for Trump. While some white male workers who call themselves independents will probably vote for Trump, the cross over vote for Hillary will more than make up for those loses and the "Bernie or Bust" crowd.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
13. They'll just go back to voting Green, or whatever.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, people actually voted for Nader. Today, those same voters, never stop to think how they helped to defeat Gore (even though Gore won.) There's a blind naivete in that type of thinking that boggles the mind. I can accept that in 18 year old kids, but not in middle aged folks.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
14. one Nader voter !
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016
Bill Maher apologizes for supporting Ralph Nader




audio not great but could not find better

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
16. LOL! Thank you. That was great.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:53 PM
Mar 2016

Isn't he for Sanders? Oh, well...

Some people are highly susceptible to sloganeering. It seems to be a character trait.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
17. Yes! but says will vote for HRC in the General!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:59 PM
Mar 2016


Bill Maher: Clinton and Sanders fans’ attacks on one another ‘is gonna be the death of liberals’

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
18. the night before that election my friend
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:08 PM
Mar 2016

and i talked about voting for nader, but knew it would be the wrong thing to do.

sweetloukillbot

(10,974 posts)
21. I voted for Nader in 2000
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:31 AM
Mar 2016

I bought the line from Michael Moore, I didn't think Clinton had the balls to stand up for what was right and was too willing to compromise. I thought there wouldn't be much difference between Bush and Gore.
I learned how wrong I was on 9/11. And while it is easy to blame Katherine Harris, or Justice Rehnquist, it was absolutely Nader and the people who fell for the line that there was no difference between the Republicans and Democrats who cost Gore the Presidency.
But I also remember the hope I felt when Clinton was elected, it was the end of the Reagan/Bush years and I was full of idealism - and absolutism, and that was something that fueled my anger in 2000.

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