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Hillary for Hawai'i Results Thread (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2016 OP
Thanks Riversedge for setting up thread FloridaBlues Mar 2016 #1
Somehow I think HA will be the best one for HRC of the day book_worm Mar 2016 #2
because its an actual election ericson00 Mar 2016 #3
Results may not come in until late EST FloridaBlues Mar 2016 #4
I believe it is a caucus--at least that is what it's called on the NYT page book_worm Mar 2016 #5
my bad...tho its high amount of non-whites does bode very well for her ericson00 Mar 2016 #7
It's actually called a "Preference Poll" in Hawaii.. not a "caucus".. But, anyone can regisiter as a Cha Mar 2016 #11
It's actually called a "Preference Poll" in Hawaii.. not a "caucus".. But, anyone can regisiter as a Cha Mar 2016 #14
I just like that answer so much still_one Mar 2016 #42
And, I have to go around letting people know.. because Cha Mar 2016 #43
........ still_one Mar 2016 #44
Hawaii has a secret ballot caucus Her Sister Mar 2016 #6
there you go; its not a real caucus, which IMO, is great ericson00 Mar 2016 #8
Yes, i like the secret ballots riversedge Mar 2016 #24
OK, that is interesting book_worm Mar 2016 #9
It's confusing.. but here's a good explanation and I was there today so it's right on.. Cha Mar 2016 #12
Oh, that's a beautiful image question everything Mar 2016 #10
Mahalo for this beautiful H, rivers! Cha Mar 2016 #13
While we wait.. Treant Mar 2016 #15
So you were on the Big Island.. which I have never been to.. I hear it's great! Cha Mar 2016 #16
We did some island hopping! Treant Mar 2016 #17
Cool! you lucky dawg when you were just a young chap... Cha Mar 2016 #20
I hate to say it, Treant Mar 2016 #25
Those pics make me feel nostalgic. sufrommich Mar 2016 #18
My mom and dad Treant Mar 2016 #19
The most beautiful smell in the world,in my opinion. We had them sufrommich Mar 2016 #21
Wow.. that's so interesting, Su! I remembered you lived or had been to Maui but Cha Mar 2016 #22
Thanks,Cha. It's going to be a bittersweet sufrommich Mar 2016 #23
Eh, go anyway. Treant Mar 2016 #26
At least you got to experience it before it got overrun.. that's like me in the '90s Cha Mar 2016 #30
Looks beautiful! Lucinda Mar 2016 #28
Cool, Lucinda~ Cha Mar 2016 #31
Oh That's so beautiful! DesertRat Mar 2016 #32
It is beautiful, DesertRat! I love the desert, too.. lived there awhile in California. Cha Mar 2016 #33
Beautiful, Cha, thanks for posting these photos. spooky3 Mar 2016 #34
Mahalo, spooky! I know I'm lucky.. all thanks to my son the surfer dude.. or I never Cha Mar 2016 #35
I'm glad you made it through the hurricane. spooky3 Mar 2016 #37
Good Night! & Thank you! Cha Mar 2016 #39
Beautiful, Cha! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #40
Indeed! Chance to take my Cha Mar 2016 #41
Keep this in mind! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #45
some RESULTS riversedge Mar 2016 #27
Well, that's disappointing. Treant Mar 2016 #29
It won't be long until the campaign gets to NY, with 291 delegates, and PA with 210. spooky3 Mar 2016 #36
Yes, but... Treant Mar 2016 #38

FloridaBlues

(3,993 posts)
1. Thanks Riversedge for setting up thread
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

I haven't seen any polling on this state here's hoping she has a great turnout !

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
3. because its an actual election
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

not a caucus (ie a place for bullying).

Also, because its neither a state that gave Nader high vote totals in 2000, or that have so few Dems left that they're all far-left (like Utah, Idaho, etc.)

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
7. my bad...tho its high amount of non-whites does bode very well for her
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:00 PM
Mar 2016

but still, they gotta junk this caucus bit.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
11. It's actually called a "Preference Poll" in Hawaii.. not a "caucus".. But, anyone can regisiter as a
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016

Dem today and vote for BS.

Which I felt like so many were at my polling place. It felt like the Twilight Zone to me.

http://hawaiidemocrats.org/presidential-preference-poll/

Unlike Arizona's PP where you couldn't register Dem the same day you can in Hawaii.. so I pretty much know how that's going to turn out.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
14. It's actually called a "Preference Poll" in Hawaii.. not a "caucus".. But, anyone can regisiter as a
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:05 AM - Edit history (1)

Dem today and vote for BS.

Which so many @ at my polling place were doing. It seemed like the Twilight Zone to me.

Question: Why do you call it a Presidential Preference Poll and not a Caucus? •Answer: Because it’s not a caucus! The Poll has some similarities with other caucuses. The Democratic Party of Hawaii organizes and pays for the Poll. The Poll results will decide how Hawaii splits our 34 delegates to the Democratic National Convention. The polls are conducted at the local level. But unlike a caucus, the voting in Hawaii is by secret ballot.

http://hawaiidemocrats.org/presidential-preference-poll/

Unlike Arizona's PP where you couldn't register Dem the same day you can in Hawaii.. so I pretty much know how that's going to turn out.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
43. And, I have to go around letting people know.. because
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:35 AM
Mar 2016

it has been confusing.

I first thought we were going to be "caucuses" like the horror stories I've heard but I started researching the heck out of it when someone asked me on here if were going to caucus for Hillary?

I was happy to report that No.. Not a caucus.

stillone~

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
6. Hawaii has a secret ballot caucus
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:59 PM
Mar 2016
How states will dole out delegates

Alaska (16): Delegates will be rewarded by state House districts and determined by a caucus system. Candidates must receive at least 15% of votes in a district to be granted any delegates. The caucuses begin at 10 a.m. local time.

Washington (101): Washington uses a mixed system to appoint delegates from the caucus results by congressional district. Registered voters who attend must publicly attest to being Democrats if they want to participate in the caucuses, which begin at 10 a.m. local time.

Hawaii (25): Hawaii Democrats also hold caucuses, but unlike Alaska and Washington, it is considered a presidential preference poll and conducted by secret ballot. Delegates are doled out proportionately. Voting begins at 1 p.m. local time.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/26/politics/election-results-what-to-watch/

Cha

(295,929 posts)
12. It's confusing.. but here's a good explanation and I was there today so it's right on..
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

It's actually called a "Preference Poll" in Hawaii.. not a "caucus".. But, anyone can register as a

Dem today and vote for BS.

Which I felt like so many were at my polling place. It felt like the Twilight Zone to me.

http://hawaiidemocrats.org/presidential-preference-poll/

Unlike Arizona's PP where you couldn't register Dem the same day you can in Hawaii.. so I pretty much know how that's going to turn out.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
15. While we wait..
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:52 PM
Mar 2016

I've been to Hawaii twice and had a marvelous time on both visits. The weather is unbeatable. The surf and beaches, fantastic. Food, outstanding. People, friendly. Air, crystal clear.

Four weeks total there wasn't nearly enough.

My only regret was that we visited Volcano National Park both times, and both times some sections were off limits due to a volcano having the bad manners to erupt (gently) while we were there.

Hawaii was also the first time I experienced a minor earthquake...nothing serious, just enough to notice.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
16. So you were on the Big Island.. which I have never been to.. I hear it's great!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

I'm on Kauai, the Garden Island, way North.



Our bike trail further North than where I am..



The bike trail close to my hale where I run on the grassy beach part..



Aloha Treant~

Treant

(1,968 posts)
17. We did some island hopping!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

This was back in the 1970's and 1980's. We hit Kauai both times, and found it much more restful and far less frenetic than the Big Island--if a little less available in the way of things to do.

Not that we minded, your beaches are, if anything, far more lovely than the Big Island's!

Both times, I went with my parents (I was about 9 the first time, 16 the second), who had lived in Honolulu while my father was in the Navy. So they definitely knew what to see and what to do--and knew people who lived there who could show us the modern stuff to see and do.

I remember that entire trip quite fondly. We even capped it with a visit to San Francisco, CA, to break up the return trip a bit. There's another city I found I rather liked.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
20. Cool! you lucky dawg when you were just a young chap...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

I love San Francisco.. was there when I was 15 and 40!

Treant

(1,968 posts)
25. I hate to say it,
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:37 PM
Mar 2016

but picture a young gay fellow of sixteen in San Francisco in 1986 whose parents were really rather lax about what time he came and went with new young friends because "he's so responsible."

Well, that was true. Usually.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
18. Those pics make me feel nostalgic.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

We lived on Maui when I was a kid. My dad worked on the top of Haleakala. We moved around from Kihei to Paia and finally to Waihee. Walked to this school right down the street every day:



If you kept walking past the school you would see taro fields for miles. We'd walk down the road and pick Job's Tears to make leis. My dad and uncle both worked at what is now called The Science Center on Haleakala,myself,my brother and my cousins are all going back next year to visit our old haunts.

Thanks for the pics,Cha. Lucky you.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
19. My mom and dad
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:59 PM
Mar 2016

had a plumeria tree in their front yard.

I have a photo somewhere of my mom wearing a plumeria lei and plumeria in her hair.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
22. Wow.. that's so interesting, Su! I remembered you lived or had been to Maui but
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't know all this!

I've never been to Maui, either. I know Job's Tears for leis though.. my friend made them on Kaua'i I have an ankle bracelet he made me with them and bits of amethyst.. so pretty.

So many challenges here but some days I do feel lucky..

Mahalo, Su, for your pic~

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
23. Thanks,Cha. It's going to be a bittersweet
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:25 PM
Mar 2016

return when we go,my cousin,who also grew up there,went back to visit about 5 years ago and we she came back,she told us "our Maui is gone". Oh well,time marches on.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
26. Eh, go anyway.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

The part of Pennsylvania I grew up in is also long gone.

You know what? It's still very similar and still nice. I'm glad I went, and although the changes made me a little sad, that's just what time does. And it's not worse, it's just different.

Try to picture the memories the kids there are forming now...and how they'll mourn for the Kauai that no longer exists in thirty years while enjoying the new one.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
30. At least you got to experience it before it got overrun.. that's like me in the '90s
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:24 AM
Mar 2016

on Kauai when I lived here the first time.

And, then we got to here the locals talk about how it was in the '60s!

Aloha, Su..

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
32. Oh That's so beautiful!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

I've only been to Maui (on 4 separate vacations) and keep going back because we love it so much.
Someday I'd love to see the other islands as well.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
35. Mahalo, spooky! I know I'm lucky.. all thanks to my son the surfer dude.. or I never
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:31 AM
Mar 2016

would have started on this Kauai journey in the '90s.

Paid my dues, though.. went through the big hurricane, Iniki on 9/11/02.

Aloha~

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
45. Keep this in mind!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

YOU did your best!

Hillary is still FAR in the lead! For a comparison to 2008 where the race was MUCH closer, which is why Hillary stayed in as long as she did then, see http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html AND https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008

Bernie WILL win a couple more states, but Hillary will continue to pick up delegates even there, just as she did last night - even though she missed target goals. And in the states with the biggest delegate counts remaining with closed primary elections where independents and GOPers cannot skew the results so blatantly, Hillary will pick up the larger share of delegates. You know this, of course. I am merely repeating it to encourage myself as well.

Let us hope that Bernie will show even half as much class when he concedes and that he will also do so before the convention, as Hillary did in 2008. Based on what he's saying and doing now, I have my doubts. But I can still hope that his better nature will prevail.

spooky3

(34,303 posts)
36. It won't be long until the campaign gets to NY, with 291 delegates, and PA with 210.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:34 AM
Mar 2016

I don't think either will be lopsided, but unless something drastically changes, I think she will win both. If so, the Fauxmentum stops there as it will be virtually impossible for him to overcome her lead at that point.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
38. Yes, but...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

GD and GD-P, much less some other sites like DK, are going to be absolute torture until at least April fifth, and more likely April 19th.

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