Sanders cannot win; why the Superdelegates are sticking with Clinton

[Iamaartist]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/28/1507050/-Sanders-cannot-win-why-the-Superdelegates-are-sticking-with-Clinton




After big wins in the predominately-white Caucus states of Washington, Alaska, Idaho, and Utah, Bernie Sanders took to Sunday morning television shows spreading the idea that the superdelegates are going to eventually support his candidacy and dump Hillary Clinton. This is the path to success that he’s laid out to his supporters to keep them funding a campaign that is making his friends and family rich.

Before explaining how this will never happen, one needs to understand the purpose of the superdelegate and what s/he represents. Rather than embodying the establishment, the superdelegate system is designed to guarantee that a fanatical or a non-democratic candidate can’t overthrow the party. To better understand where the DNC is coming from, all you have to do is put yourself in the Republican’s shoes. If the RNC had superdelegates, they would effectively be able to prevent Donald Trump, a fake Republican radical, from taking over the party. As Devlin (2016) points out, “it should be abundantly evident that many Republicans now wish they had such an option to use against the obnoxious candidacy of Donald Trump.”

While Bernie Sanders is not to the DNC what Trump is to the RNC, there are two reasons that the superdelegates are not going to vote for Sanders. The first is because they are expressly designed to prevent a non-democrat from seizing the party. Sanders is not a democrat, has admitted that he is only running as a democrat to get media attention, to use DNC election databases, and to benefit from fundraising, and actually despises the democratic party.

[shenmue]

1. The comments over there are hilarious

[Iamaartist]

3. Havent read the comments as yet....

[Iamaartist]

2. cartoon

[LiberalFighter]

18. LMAO

[Surya Gayatri]

4. .../...

“...the superdelegate system is designed to guarantee that a fanatical or a non-democratic candidate can’t overthrow the party.”

[Iamaartist]

5. delegates.

To protect the delegates...........

[Cha]

6. The feeling is mutual.

"While Bernie Sanders is not to the DNC what Trump is to the RNC, there are two reasons that the superdelegates are not going to vote for Sanders. The first is because they are expressly designed to prevent a non-democrat from seizing the party. Sanders is not a democrat, has admitted that he is only running as a democrat to get media attention, to use DNC election databases, and to benefit from fundraising, and actually despises the democratic party."

[Iamaartist]

7. Agree For Sure.....

[Thinkingabout]

8. I am thinking several of the super delegates have endorsed Hillary for the same reasons

Many of Hillary supporters have, she is simply the most qualified and has the more realistic achievable agenda. Many have worked with Hillary and Bernie in Congress prefer Hillary. Hillary has great work habits and is most knowledgeable on many issues.

Yes the SD's are set up to is prevent a hostile take over by other parties. In other words keeping the DNC party nominee a Democrat who continues Democratic ideas.

[Iamaartist]

9. Hillary Is The Most Qualified Candidate To Be President!!

[Thinkingabout]

10. Yes she is!!!

[Gothmog]

11. Sanders will not be successful in appealing to super delegates

[Her Sister]

12. He is even threatening to not endorse the Democrats nominee

shows where his loyalties lie. Not with the Democratic party. Is he also going to sit out the General election if he is not the nominee?

[CalvinballPro]

15. Tad Devine needs to keep the money train rolling, so expect him to argue for a third-party run.

His consulting firm only gets paid its $500K per month as long as Bernie is running, after all. Same with the private jet rides.

[Her Sister]

16. but in some States he cannot do that

Against the sore loser's rule or something like that!

[LiberalFighter]

20. If that is the case he will be doing what Republicans do

playing checkers instead of chess.

The Senate Democratic leadership does not have to give him prime committee assignments let alone anything substantial. And if he doesn't like it what will he do? Align himself with the Republicans? Where will that get him?

[creon]

13. They are staying with Clinton

Unless there is a reversal of fortune.

Sanders has no political party; and, there is no socialist party in the USA.
In Congress, he must caucus with the Democratic Party in order to be at the table.
If nominated, he must use the DNC. He has no other real option.

If not nominated, he, and his associates, will have to try and create an organization for the long term.
Will they try to do that? I doubt it.
Sanders, and his friends, do not seem to think that there is a long term.

[Her Sister]

14. She wins with Dermocrats

While exit poll data is not available in a number of states, let’s take a look at the states where we do have this information in relation to the party affiliation of voters:

Iowa

Clinton won the state by 0.3 points. She won Democrats by 17 points.

Massachusetts

Clinton won the state by 1.3 points. She won Democrats by 20 points.

Ohio

Clinton won the state by 14 points. She won Democrats by 29 points.

North Carolina

Clinton won the state by 14 points. She won Democrats by 31 points.

Nevada

Clinton won the state by 5 points. She won Democrats by 18 points.

Arkansas

Clinton won the state by 36 points. She won Democrats by 61 points.

Georgia

Clinton won the state by 42 points. She won Democrats by 55 points.

Missouri

Clinton won the state by 1 point. She won Democrats by 11 points.

New Hampshire

Sanders won the state by 22 points. He won Democrats by 4 points.

Oklahoma

Sanders won the state by 10 points. Clinton won Democrats by 11 points.

Michigan

Sanders won the state by 1 point. Clinton won Democrats by 18 points.

In analyzing this data, it is extremely obvious that Clinton is dominating among Democratic voters. The superdelegates, who again are supposed to represent the DNC and the Democratic voters, are not going to betray the large majority of Democratic voters and support a candidacy that is only viable due to its strong non-Democrat support. Remember, this is what the superdelegates are designed to prevent.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/28/1507050/-Sanders-cannot-win-why-the-Superdelegates-are-sticking-with-Clinton


HRC GROUP IS AWESOME!
WITH HER!

[Gothmog]

17. I predict that very few super delegates will flip and support sanders

[MSMITH33156]

19. The important point

mentioned in the article is that she's kicking his butt in PLEDGED delegates and in votes.

Superdelegates exist, as the article stated, to keep in place a measure of control at the party level to avoid a disaster like they're seeing on the Republican side.

Not just to prevent an outside candidate from running, but to prevent malfeasance (let's say there was no Republican primary and a bunch of Republicans voted on the Dem side to nominate a weak candidate...that's where supers would come in and void that).

If Bernie won a majority of the pledged delegates, I'm pretty sure the supers would mostly line up with him, enough so that he would win the nomination.

But what he is asking is for the party leaders to overturn the will of the people, deny the person with the most votes the nomination, in his favor, because....actually, he doesn't even have a reason. It's absurd and he has nowhere to go. No one is even entertaining this possibility because it is so ridiculous.

[pandr32]

21. Aren't "superdelegates" people too?

They should be able to make their own decision who they want to support without Sanders and company telling them who to pledge to.