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riversedge

(70,077 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:32 PM Mar 2016

@BarbraStreisand - What's the issue about Secretary @HillaryClinton getting $225k a speech when Pres








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What's the issue about Secretary @HillaryClinton getting $225k a speech when Pres Bush 41/43 got $1m/Trump $1.25m. OK for men but not women?



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Robert Sandy ?@frodofied 41m41 minutes ago

@BarbraStreisand @HillaryClinton PREACH!
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Lesley Abravanel ?@lesleyabravanel 42m42 minutes ago Boca Raton, FL

@BarbraStreisand @HillaryClinton Yaaaas Kween! The double standard is infuriating. #ImWithHer


Linda ?@westcoastprof 4h4 hours ago

@BarbraStreisand @HillaryClinton sadly its her competitor on the democratic side that made it an issue.


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@BarbraStreisand - What's the issue about Secretary @HillaryClinton getting $225k a speech when Pres (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2016 OP
good point! LAS14 Mar 2016 #1
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #2
This is EXACTLY what I've been telling my BS-supporting friends! Light63 Mar 2016 #4
Hillary Clinton has said, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them." BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #23
+1! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #26
Thank you Barbra. sheshe2 Mar 2016 #3
Bernie is jealous. Doubt anyone would offer him half of that. n/t livetohike Mar 2016 #5
That's what I believe is the core reason for his whiny criticisms: envy. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #24
Bernie has been giving the same speech since 1960 cosmicone Mar 2016 #6
Great insight! Light63 Mar 2016 #7
Barbara Streisand just burned bernie! Take that.. dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #8
"@BarbraStreisand @HillaryClinton sadly its her competitor on the democratic side that made it an Cha Mar 2016 #9
Well duh. Such a screaming NON issue. Who falls for this simplistic smear? Rose Siding Mar 2016 #10
It's okay for men but not women. Also, all True Democrats wear sackcloth and travel barefoot.... Hekate Mar 2016 #11
K&R - Made my day! SharonClark Mar 2016 #12
This ... BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #27
KNR Lucinda Mar 2016 #13
The Sexism in American Politics by @BarbraStreisand riversedge Mar 2016 #14
Bookmarking this thread just to keep this essay and the classic list demonstrating... Hekate Mar 2016 #18
BS was a mediocre college student! Her Sister Apr 2016 #22
"sadly its her competitor on the democratic side that made it an issue." SunSeeker Mar 2016 #15
That is what happens when you let a DURHAM D Mar 2016 #16
Yep. nt SunSeeker Mar 2016 #17
K&R Durham D! This exactly! eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #25
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #19
Ummm, you are in the Clinton group... Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #21
I strongly suggest you take this to St Bernard's Group or to General Discussion: Primaries. Hekate Apr 2016 #28
I don't have a vagina and I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. George II Apr 2016 #29
So you're voting with someone else's vagina!?!? For SHAME, George!! PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #30
Sorry. George II Apr 2016 #31

Light63

(233 posts)
4. This is EXACTLY what I've been telling my BS-supporting friends!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:56 PM
Mar 2016

If a company wants to pay BS to give a speech at more than $200,000, I don't think BS is going to turn it away. All politicians get paid by giving out speeches. It might be that NO ONE or NO COMPANY has wanted to ask BS To deliver a speech for a large sum of money! BS looks very PETTY and SMALL when he criticized Hillary for George Clooney's fundraising dinner. I guess should Clooney approach BS to voluntarily provide a fundraising dinner for him, I really doubt BS would turn Clooney away.

BS, stop being so petty and small. You are much better than that. I guess this primary competition has really shown people of who you truly are!

And that is also the reason why I don't think BS will go gently away at the Convention after his defeat. Hillary and the DNC have to be prepared should BS run as a third party after the Convention.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
23. Hillary Clinton has said, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them."
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie's certainly showed his true self (petty, vindictive, loud, obnoxious, things the world evolves around him, narcissistic), and it ain't pretty.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
26. +1!
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

Scales have fully dropped from these eyes. I've always supported Hillary, but am now totally, thoroughly and completely disenchanted with Bernie.

Were the NV episode and the ongoing barrage of negative campaigning really worth it for him? IMO, he has lost a LOT of goodwill recently - and that loss is reflected in the people I know in real life, some of whom are Bernie supporters.

sheshe2

(83,642 posts)
3. Thank you Barbra.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016
What's the issue about Secretary @HillaryClinton getting $225k a speech when Pres Bush 41/43 got $1m/Trump $1.25m. OK for men but not women?


BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
24. That's what I believe is the core reason for his whiny criticisms: envy.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:26 AM
Apr 2016

He only wishes he could get that much for a speech! I seriously doubt he'll get anything anywhere near that after he loses the primaries. Aside from students, who'd want to listen to him??

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
6. Bernie has been giving the same speech since 1960
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

He needs new material to get more than ... say ... $27

Cha

(296,804 posts)
9. "@BarbraStreisand @HillaryClinton sadly its her competitor on the democratic side that made it an
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mar 2016
issue"

Thanks rivers~

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
10. Well duh. Such a screaming NON issue. Who falls for this simplistic smear?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

NO proof of quid pro quo. Zero! -neither historically or ideologically. SUCH a bill of goods Sanders is selling. He even has to use a joke to make the point. It's ALL innuendo and supposition.

And that 27 bucks he bellows about? He's not beholden to an army of those who expect a certain ideology? Much damage has been done to nations, including our own by being entrenched in ideological rigidity.

Hekate

(90,551 posts)
11. It's okay for men but not women. Also, all True Democrats wear sackcloth and travel barefoot....
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

...with a begging bowl for their meals. True Democrats spit on offers of money because it comes between them and God....or something.

riversedge

(70,077 posts)
14. The Sexism in American Politics by @BarbraStreisand
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

Just found this tweet.


The Sexism in American Politics by @BarbraStreisand http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbra-streisand/sexism-american-politics_b_9548016.html … @Hillary2016 #feelthebern #wipolitics




The Sexism in American Politics

03/25/2016 02:48 pm ET | Updated 3 days ago



Why is it that today even a woman as impressive as Hillary Clinton is judged not by her merits and extensive resume alone, but held to a pernicious double standard?

Twenty-two years ago, I had the honor of introducing Hillary Clinton at a Humanitarian Award dinner, given by The Elie Wiesel Foundation. I said of her then and it holds true today, “There is no one in this country who would deny the competence, intellect, stamina, warmth and courage of Hillary Rodham Clinton... But the criticism of Hillary Clinton has again demonstrated that the strong, competent woman is still a threatening figure in our culture. ...A man who graduated high in his class at Yale Law School and made partnership in a top law firm would be celebrated. But a woman who accomplishes this is treated with suspicion... Blanche Wiesen Cook, author of the acclaimed biography of Eleanor Roosevelt, said of Hillary Clinton, ‘I don’t think there is a First Lady who has been treated as rudely and meanly except for Eleanor Roosevelt.’” Both of these women boldly risked the scorn of “those threatened by the image of a woman carrying the fight for social justice into the public arena.”

It seems that nothing much has changed. It’s been 24 years since I said in a speech for Women in Film, “Men and women are clearly measured by a different yardstick. And that makes me angry. Of course, I’m not supposed to be angry. A woman should be soft-spoken, agreeable, ladylike, understated. In other words, stifled. Language gives us an insight into the way women are viewed in a male-dominated society.

A man is commanding, a woman is demanding.

He’s assertive - she’s aggressive.

He strategizes - she manipulates.

A man is forceful - a woman is pushy.

He shows leadership - she’s controlling.

A man is a perfectionist - a woman’s a pain in the ass.”

It’s been decades since those speeches, but there is still outright sexism in much of the commentary on Secretary Clinton’s campaign. The Women’s Media Center and Media Matters have done wonderful work documenting the explicit - and more importantly since it’s often unseen - implicit sexism of the political and media punditry. After Hillary Clinton won five primaries on March 15th, Fox News’ Brit Hume tweeted, she’s shouting angrily in her victory speech... “What’s she mad at?” When MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough tweeted she should, “Smile. You just had a big night,” should we have been surprised? Hillary Clinton has a great smile and smiles often. So does Barack Obama. So does Bill Clinton. But no one would tell those two men to smile.

Hillary Clinton is dealing with our current reality rather than the delusions of reality TV. Karen Weaver, the new mayor Flint, Michigan said in dealing with the water crisis that Hillary Clinton “has actually been the only candidate, whether we’re talking Democratic or Republican, to reach out and talk with us about, ‘What can I do? What kind of help do you need?’” It’s one thing to talk about something and another thing to do it. Clinton gave Weaver a roadmap on how to get the results.................



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbra-streisand/sexism-american-politics_b_9548016.html

Hekate

(90,551 posts)
18. Bookmarking this thread just to keep this essay and the classic list demonstrating...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:37 AM
Mar 2016

...what the double standard is.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
15. "sadly its her competitor on the democratic side that made it an issue."
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:53 AM
Mar 2016

Sad indeed. And he raised the issue after promising he would not run a negative campaign.

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Hekate

(90,551 posts)
28. I strongly suggest you take this to St Bernard's Group or to General Discussion: Primaries.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

I'm sure it will find a welcome there more suitable to your .... Insights. Or whatever they are.

I also suggest you read the TOS you signed on the way in to DU, and the rules for this Group at the top of the main page for this Group. Otherwise your stay will be brief.

Bye.

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