They-Sanders- lost because they did not try to compete!! ha ha Maddow is

[riversedge]

giving a seething report on all the reasons they have lost certain states.


She is saying they will have to walk this excuse back.

[Legends303]

1. I like the excuse they give

is that Hilary is only winning conservative states but yet Sanders still lost in the most deglate rich northern and western states.

[lunamagica]

2. Maddow is on fire! I love how she just showed Sanders had more offices than Hillary in those states

"he wanted to lose"!

Now she'll be thrown under the bus for stating irrefutable facts

[DesertFlower]

4. as usual she's great.

[riversedge]

5. Tad Devine is....stupid for saying such a thing. YES, Maddow was on Fire.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

20. Your first four words were enough

[NurseJackie]

29. Ha! :-D

[cosmicone]

54. Tad Devine wants that money coming in

His paycheck and 15% on ad buys is at stake!

[SharonClark]

15. She nailed it

[MADem]

40. Thing is, she was a supporter of Sanders--she was in tears when he lost NV.

Maybe she's tired of the shit she's getting (and she has been getting some shit for not being sufficiently enthusiastic or partisan while covering this primary), and has applied some ointment to that "bern."

[Cha]

44. "He wanted to lose".. ?!

[lunamagica]

48. Yes Cha. The story now is that he never meant to win those states, and had he wanted to win them

he would have. Really, they are going with that.

But Rachel didn't let them get away with it. He really crushed their lies with facts!

[riversedge]

3. Sanders camp is saying they lost because they were not trying but now will try hard....

she says that will not fly. --Tad Devine said this--per Maddow


She briefly went thru how the Sanders camp had during the time or BEFORE the time of the states they lost--mostly the Southern states--had put out press releases of how they were opening up offices in these states, hiring staff. ect ect....


They DID try and put lots of resources in many of these states --so much for 'not trying'

[nolabear]

6. "Bull puckey!"

[DesertFlower]

8. bernie's people are going nuts

over this reporting.

[riversedge]

13. yes, I saw some of those out there. TAD is foolish for making up stuff.

[Cha]

45. Stupd excuse and it so figures!

[Iliyah]

7. Oh my gosh

[Trenzalore]

9. Her social media team is going to be busy tonight

The Super Delegate Army might take a break from pissing of Super Delegates to voice their displeasure.

[KewlKat]

10. where's the ad campaign bills for those states?

perhaps we can look at the FEC summary

[Trenzalore]

11. I will say..she really upset the Sanders peeps in GDP

She has been labeled an enemy to the revolution for ever now.

[DesertFlower]

19. any time someone says something they

don't agree with they throw them under the bus. i've been here a long time and watched them do it. they did it with keith olbermann who they allegedly loved. they do it to anderea mitchell, chris matthews, etc. some people are very immature.

watch, if she seems to side with bernie she'll be back in their good graces.

[Trenzalore]

22. Didn't she do a flattering interview with him last week

They loved her a few days ago.

[DesertFlower]

24. they're very fickle and immature.

don't realize people are just doing their jobs reporting.

[Trenzalore]

27. Looking back at 2008

and the Obama campaign, I wonder if we were this bad...and at times maybe...but not this consistently. The Bernie people I've encountered seem to be unhinged.

[DesertFlower]

30. it was bad, but not like this. i

supported obama back then, but would have voted for hillary if she were the nominee. we seem to have way more people posting now too.

the bernie people seem to be very "cult" like.

my sister thinks many of them are trolls.

[Trenzalore]

32. He attracts interesting people

The friend from High School that was posting Ron Paul shit that now posts Bernie shit makes me scratch my head.

[DesertFlower]

33. lol. back when i joined DU in '05

(different name) we were all united against bush. the biggest argument was whether mark warner should run for prez.

[Thinkingabout]

39. The campaign is run on the Ron Paul model.

[riversedge]

34. flip floppers comes to mind

[Trenzalore]

36. Evidently this goes back to the Bird

She rankled their feathers last week by saying it was adorable and cool and not a sign from God.

[Rose Siding]

12. Devine lied and here's proof

[riversedge]

35. Whow--love those screenshots. thanks.

[MADem]

41. IN SC, Sanders hired 240 paid staff, and opened 14 offices.

I think Clinton had 10 paid staff and 2 offices.

He also outspent her massively in ad buys.

[Cha]

53. And, he went to the Brooklyn Baptist Church with Ben Jealous where the parishioners

were having their Sunday Feast.. was he not even trying?

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/21/muted-response-to-sanders-at-south-carolina-church/

[MADem]

58. There's video of that.

He gave a speech at at least one HBC. The crowd shots were rather salt-n-peppa.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/13084/

He spent quite a bit in SC on ads, too. The return on his investment is poor.

[livetohike]

50. Thanks Rose!

[Cha]

52. devine knows if he lies.. the BS crowd won't care and he might get some gullible

fish to believe his whiny tale.

[riversedge]

57. Tad Devine just made a fool of himself.

[sheshe2]

14. Wait what. wasn't she a yuuuuuge Sanders suppoter?

[Beaverhausen]

16. She's reporting the story

She lives for elections. She loves this.

But she's just reporting the facts here, not taking a side.

[sheshe2]

17. K

[DesertFlower]

21. that's how she got her own show.

she was an analyst back in '08. sat in for keith olbermann a few times. he was the one who recommended she get her own show. she's one of my favorites.

[Satch59]

18. Oh this made my night...

Went over to the dark side to read the BS'rs exploding over Rachel the Hack...wasn't she gold last week for showing an entire Bernie speech? Hmmm...fickle group...

Tad made another stupid comment...and glad Rachel is calling him out. Can't wait for his reaction when she wins NY, PA, MD... What will the excuse be then?

Hey, do we have a shot at WI??

[DesertFlower]

23. let's hope so. i'm getting a little worried.

i like bernie but if he were the nominee the repubs would tear him apart. right now they're very dismissive of him.

and, if he were elected i don't think he get much done. who's going to work with a guy who constantly puts them down?

[Treant]

25. If they weren't trying,

it's getting a bit late to start. We're only 2 1/2 weeks out from New York, and that's a lot of "trying" to catch up with Clinton...you know, the two-term New York Senator.

[UtahLib]

26. Good on Rachel!

Sometimes the smell is just so overwhelming that discussing it can't be avoided.

[jsmirman]

28. Good, because Tad Devine SHOULD DONATE HIS ENTIRE SALARY TO CHARITY

if this is his fucking excuse!

Seriously, you fucking piker! The irony of what he pulls down to run that campaign while blasting anyone who has two nickels to rub together is too much.

I'd find Tad Devine a few million times less grating if he put his money where his mouth is and gave all the millions he's made on the campaign to people who actually need it.

[UMTerp01]

31. Go Rachel

Maddow has always been pretty fair and balanced.

[riversedge]

37. #Maddow I heard Devine's argument in Jr. High. "You only won because I didn't try."

Tweet:
Pat Fuller ?@bannerite 1h1 hour ago

#Maddow I heard Devine's argument in Jr. High. "You only won because I didn't try." What a #weeniewhiner

[dubyadiprecession]

38. Bernie is his own worst enemy...

Hillary has 237 more pledged delegates than bernie. These are what she has won outside of the superdelegates.

Bernie's message has been lousy of convincing the majority to vote for him. He's just not the best candidate and he has only two caucus states left where he can do good. which is not good enough.

[DarthDem]

42. Sanders Is Impressing Me Less and Less . . .

. . . as this primary goes on. He's coming off as a misogynist bully, an egotist only slightly less taken with himself than Trump, and now a sore loser. Then there's his failure to do squat for downticket Democrats and the very, very Tea Party-like nature of his supporters. I am absolutely relishing the prospect of the imminent end of his campaign.

[Gothmog]

43. Bernie Sanders’ campaign offers awkward take on state of the race

This is a good report on the silliness of the Sanders campaign claim http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bernie-sanders-campaign-offers-awkward-take-state-the-race

But as a rule, presidential campaigns don’t get to lose a whole bunch of key primaries by wide margins and then declare, “Yeah, but we weren’t really trying.” If these eight nominating contests have left the Sanders campaign at a disadvantage they’re unlikely to overcome, it’s actually incumbent on his top aides and strategists to explainwhy they didn’t make more of an effort in these states.

It’s easy to imagine folks from Team Clinton saying they weren’t exactly going all out to win in Idaho and Utah – states Sanders won easily – but competitive candidates for national office don’t get to use that as an excuse when things aren’t going as well as they’d like.

At its root, Devine’s argument is that Team Sanders identified a series of early, delegate-rich states, but they chose not to bother with them. That’s not just a bad argument; it’s the kind of message that’s probably going to irritate quite a few Sanders supporters who expect more from their team.

Making matters slightly worse, Tad Devine’s pitch isn’t altogether accurate. In Virginia, for example – one of the eight primaries in which he says Team Sanders chose not to compete – plenty of campaign watchers know the senator actually made an effort in the commonwealth and lost anyway. The senator also campaigned in Texas, which is another one of the states Devine said the campaign wrote off.

As for the argument that Sanders wins “in every place that we compete with her,” even taken at face value, it’s not an especially compelling argument: Team Sanders made a real effort to win in states like Arizona, Nevada, Ohio, and Massachusetts, but he lost in each of them.

Don’t be too surprised if Devine walks back his comments today. It’s just not a message that does Team Sanders any favors.

Update: Devine also said the Sanders campaign chose to compete for state victories, rather than compete for delegate victories. I have no idea why the campaign would deliberately choose to compete by the wrong metric that would lead to defeat, but if I were a die-hard Sanders backer, this kind of rhetoric would be incredibly frustrating.

This excuse is so very weak

[riversedge]

47. That is a very weak headline

[livetohike]

51. "Compete for state victories"? That sounds even worse. Hillary swept the

South. Including TX and Arizona. So Devine is saying they ignored ALL of those states.

[stopbush]

46. I was surprised at this major take down of the BS campaign

especially after MSNBC spent all of last week shilling for Sanders.

She was laughing at Tad Devine.

[baldguy]

49. And notice how telling the truth - quoting the Sanders guy in full & in context

Gets Maddow tossed under the bus & placed on the BoB's enemies list.

[cosmicone]

55. As time goes by, Bernie is making me puke

Dishonest, disingenuous, pandering, egotistical and authoritarian. "Don't stand there" guy

[giftedgirl77]

56. The Sanders campaign is one big ponzi scheme.