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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:21 AM Mar 2016

Did You Notice Bernie's Major Insult To All Current Ds on TYT?

Did you happen to catch Bernie's interview on TYT wherein he said that he wanted to rebuild the Party (as if it needs rebuilding) and that he hoped the D Party would be a party that welcomed the little guy etc rather than being a party of the elites (as if the D Party in its present form and operation ignores the little guy, ie: lower and middle class, minorities, women, gays etc).

He basically said that all of us who are current members of the D Party and who are not wealthy or among the political elite (like Bernie Sanders, who as one of only 100 Senators is about as elite as you can get politically in this country) are not welcome in the Party.

Such an asshole.

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Did You Notice Bernie's Major Insult To All Current Ds on TYT? (Original Post) stopbush Mar 2016 OP
I like him less and less everyday. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #1
The more I see of him, the more I understand why so few of his Congressional stopbush Mar 2016 #35
Not surprised -Sanders is using the Dem. Party as a doormat right now. riversedge Mar 2016 #2
He has always had nothing but contempt for the party and most democrats as well workinclasszero Mar 2016 #36
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #3
OMG us DEMS have been waiting Her Sister Mar 2016 #4
He wants to reshape the Party in his image, stopbush Mar 2016 #13
Doesn't matter what he wants.. he gets nothing. Cha Mar 2016 #5
Purity tests shrink coalitions. I don't know why he's fooling himself and his supporters so badly. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #6
He doesn't know much about the Democratic party does he? I can't stand him. Let him create his own livetohike Mar 2016 #7
Yep! He doesn't know a damn about the Democratic Party. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #9
Right. It is so arrogant of him to tell the Democratic Party what needs done. It's like when one livetohike Mar 2016 #17
Which is classic millennial behavior LisaM Mar 2016 #19
Good point. I see that in one of my nieces. She is 27 and thinks she knows better than anyone else. livetohike Mar 2016 #20
My nephew and niece's high school has every student in AP classes sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #34
This millennial, for sure, thinks he's full of it... kjones Mar 2016 #30
Right, so I hate to lump a bunch of people together..... LisaM Mar 2016 #33
Hmm, he's arrogant, but I'm not sure how to parse it. kjones Mar 2016 #38
All good points. Thanks for adding to the conversation and perspective. livetohike Mar 2016 #39
It may also be cynicism. Finding fault, insulting, degrading... KittyWampus Mar 2016 #51
On why he says Democrats are losing white voters Her Sister Mar 2016 #8
seems to dismiss racial issues Her Sister Mar 2016 #10
He's full of shit DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #12
"Racial issue are unimportant..." kjones Mar 2016 #29
He has no skill or history of building consensus on anything Rose Siding Mar 2016 #11
Hey, that's TWO post offices! stopbush Mar 2016 #14
Surprised he didn't name one of them after himself. n/t livetohike Mar 2016 #18
Surprised KFC hasn't tapped him stopbush Mar 2016 #21
Hah! BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #24
LOL! I'll bet he leaves politics for a career in tv. Just like Palin. Maybe FOX will give him a show livetohike Mar 2016 #31
Such comments are really not working BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #15
The comments appeal to low-info types who have never before been involved in politics stopbush Mar 2016 #22
Exactly, stopbush. BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #25
He makes me really upset pandr32 Mar 2016 #16
Clearly, he doesn't understand how a country as large as ours works. And clearly he's suffered acute BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #23
I think this is how he as always thought. madaboutharry Mar 2016 #26
I just keep questioning that Democrat thing he recently associated with himself liberal N proud Mar 2016 #27
* kjones Mar 2016 #28
This was not lost on anyone Gothmog Mar 2016 #32
I also notice Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #37
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #40
Make no mistake, he's talking about white folks. He's always had an issue with AA allegiance to the Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #41
Notice that he's now saying Hillary won "in the deep South?" stopbush Mar 2016 #42
BS has a track record of trashing Democrats. Cha has a great quote by BS where he once said... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #46
oh I can hear that one Setsuna1972 Mar 2016 #48
This. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #49
If you need a reason to DONATE to Hillary..... KewlKat Mar 2016 #43
I already made my donation earlier today. stopbush Mar 2016 #44
He should get a like audience on The Yelling Turds show. eom fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #45
He may have let his guard down because he was speaking to fans. SharonClark Mar 2016 #47
catering solely to his unhinged supporters will cost him more in the end. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #53
People who've been working their ass off for decades to help people who work their ass off. baldguy Mar 2016 #50
+1 Kinda makes you wanna go pee in their Cheerios. fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #52

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
35. The more I see of him, the more I understand why so few of his Congressional
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:22 PM
Mar 2016

colleagues have endorsed him or signed on as his super delegates.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. He has always had nothing but contempt for the party and most democrats as well
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

Read this:

Can Bernie Sanders Win the Love of a Party He Scorns?
The long, troubled history of Bernie Sanders and the 'ideologically bankrupt' party whose White House nod he now seeks.

By MICHAEL KRUSE and MANU RAJU August 10, 2015

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181

Oh and a big FU to TYT, I washed my hands of their anti-Hillary smear show a while back!

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
6. Purity tests shrink coalitions. I don't know why he's fooling himself and his supporters so badly.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

A person going around saying "My way or the highway" quickly finds themselves encouraged to hit the road.

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
7. He doesn't know much about the Democratic party does he? I can't stand him. Let him create his own
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

party. He can call it the Sanders Party of Egotistical Wannabes. SPEW. Honestly, I cannot stand to look or listen to him and his B.S.

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
17. Right. It is so arrogant of him to tell the Democratic Party what needs done. It's like when one
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

starts a new job. No one likes the newbie to spout off on day one what needs improved.

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
19. Which is classic millennial behavior
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

and which is why he appeals to some millennials. I should hasten to add, not all millennials are like this, I work with one in particular who's as hard a worker as I've ever met, but there is definitely a vocal contingent of millennials who do think that their first order of business in the workplace is to set everyone else straight on how to do things better.

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
20. Good point. I see that in one of my nieces. She is 27 and thinks she knows better than anyone else.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

She is a nurse. My first wake up call to this was while attending my nephews and nieces high school graduations. They had more than one Valedictorian! Now isn't that special? One graduating class had 14 Valedictorians.

sweetloukillbot

(11,008 posts)
34. My nephew and niece's high school has every student in AP classes
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:16 PM
Mar 2016

They have to grade on the curve to make sure that the students pass. My niece was excited because she had 100% in one class, and then said how she couldn't complete half the test. Apparently that's an artifact of No Child Left Behind...

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
33. Right, so I hate to lump a bunch of people together.....
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

But there is definitely a mindset among some millenials that Bernie Sanders appeals to.

There are many wonderful millennials, and I work hard - not always successfully - to separate the great ones from some of the things I see trending in the group as a whole.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
38. Hmm, he's arrogant, but I'm not sure how to parse it.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, I've never agreed with the stereotype of the "arrogant
youth/greenhorn/newbie/whatever" all the same as I've never
agreed with the flip side...the arrogant, inflexible, stay the course
long-timer. Arrogance is a trait, and like Bernie, I'm sure most who
exhibit it carry it throughout their lives.
Bernie's not arrogant because he's, in effect, making suggestions
(not really) or pointing out problems in the D party (maybe a bit)...
he's arrogant because that's just who he is...and that makes his
non-suggestions and statements as obviously empty and
disingenuous as they really are. His attitude regarding what
he thinks the party should do leaves a bad taste in the mouth,
not because the arrogance (though it sure doesn't help) but
because it's becoming obvious he doesn't actually give a damn
about the party.

In the general, what pisses me off about the "know it all" newbie
isn't that they are new, complaining, or making suggestions...but
when their motivations for doing so are questionable...when really,
they're just nitpicking to score points.
Bernie's motives for all this are pretty questionable...his comments
strike as empty, and we all know he's desperate to score any points
he can.

A newcomer with a new perspective can be very useful...valuable...
when their comments are genuine.
I will admit, there are many in my cohort that do not yet get this,
and I feel like there may be something about the times we've grown
up in that has fostered this "nitpick for points" attitude, especially
in those predisposed to arrogance.

In fact, someone might argue that my own post walks that line,
or close to it...though the comments are meant in good faith.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
51. It may also be cynicism. Finding fault, insulting, degrading...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:30 PM
Mar 2016

Being ABOVE IT ALL.

Not in the sense of being objective and making observations and insightful critiques.

It's assuming an air of superiority by being detached and cynical.

It's tearing others down to build oneself up. Demonization.

Sanders is essentially saying Democrats are self-interested and lack proper motivations.

He then proposes empty pseudo-suggestions whilst using demagoguery to stir angry emotions.

And he will fail because Democrats are by nature coalition builders and pragmatic.





 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
8. On why he says Democrats are losing white voters
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is one of two independents in the Senate. Now, the self-described socialist says he may run for president.

Sanders is aligned with Senate Democrats, but he has spoken lately of a problem with the Democratic coalition that elected President Obama. He says working-class white voters have abandoned Democrats in large numbers. The party, he says, has "not made it clear that they are prepared to stand with the working-class people of this country, take on the big money interests."

NPR's Steve Inskeep sat down with Sanders in his office and talked about the senator's plan for the middle class, how he says the Democratic Party lost its way, and American action against the Islamic State.


http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2014/11/19/365024592/sen-bernie-sanders-on-how-democrats-lost-white-voters

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
12. He's full of shit
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a DEM who makes less than 30K a year, thank you. Not rich by any stretch. I work VERY hard for what I make. This man does not represent my interests, and he certainly does not belong in our party.

livetohike

(22,140 posts)
31. LOL! I'll bet he leaves politics for a career in tv. Just like Palin. Maybe FOX will give him a show
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
22. The comments appeal to low-info types who have never before been involved in politics
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

and who have no idea what a political party does.

Their view is "here's what I think - your party needs to conform to what I think."

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
16. He makes me really upset
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

I am so proud to be a Democrat, and then this ambitious wanna-be socialist decides he wants to destroy the party and run as its leader

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
23. Clearly, he doesn't understand how a country as large as ours works. And clearly he's suffered acute
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

and debilitating amnesia for the past 7 1/2 years when this incredible president worked his behind off to save this country from the brink of disaster and helped "the little guy and gal" to get back to work and to do FAR BETTER than we've been doing under
Duhbya Bush and the Republicans' economy.

I'm not out for purity. I want us to improve incrementally but steadily. That's what President Obama has and continues to work extremely hard for, and what Secretary Clinton has promised to carry on and expand upon.

Bernie wants to try and rip our gov't up from the roots and turn this country into a more Cuba-style socialist country. Sorry, but I won't sign on for that. Nope.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
26. I think this is how he as always thought.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

He just never before had the opportunity or platform to speak about his ideas so clearly.

I really hope Hillary is able to clinch this nomination soon.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
27. I just keep questioning that Democrat thing he recently associated with himself
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

Is he really? Does a lot of things to make it look like he isn't.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
37. I also notice
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

that you don't see them getting behind issues that affect voters like me. I'm one of the rare black men who support Hillary Clinton. But yet the moment they find out I'm going for Clinton, I get hated on

Response to stopbush (Original post)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
41. Make no mistake, he's talking about white folks. He's always had an issue with AA allegiance to the
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

Democratic party. It's the reason why he frequently tosses out the term "identity politics". We know exactly what that means, and it's not good.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
46. BS has a track record of trashing Democrats. Cha has a great quote by BS where he once said...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:48 PM
Mar 2016

"it would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat, because I've trashed them in the past", or something to that effect. So, AFAIC, he's a full fledged phony & apparently has problems with truth-I-ness.

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
48. oh I can hear that one
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:04 PM
Mar 2016

It's his "polite" way of saying , " those stupid black people didn't vote for me" And I'll never forget seeing so many of his fucked up supporters repeating the same damn thing over and over again here and elsewhere online !

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
43. If you need a reason to DONATE to Hillary.....
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

this is it! I find a reason nearly everyday. As a former smoker, that $5 a day habit is now for Hillary. Anyone care to join me? I just gave her $50 today because the DINOs are really pushing my buttons!

Tomorrow ends the quarter and BS raised another 4 million the other day....she needs our help and the alternatives having me dusting out my passport and looking at other places to live...........Drumpf and BS scare the H out of me.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
44. I already made my donation earlier today.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

That's three this week, about $45 this week alone.

Gotta give. $ is the lifeblood of politics.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
53. catering solely to his unhinged supporters will cost him more in the end.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:37 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary has even said to the millennials that even tho they may not be FOR her, she was definitely FOR them.
Bernie is a bitter old man with a single agenda...destroy the Democrat party as we know it.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
50. People who've been working their ass off for decades to help people who work their ass off.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

Being told by a johnny-come-lately carpetbagger that they're not enough of a Democrat.

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