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MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:23 PM Mar 2016

On revolutionary fantasies

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/28/on-revolutionary-fantasies

By Liberal Librarian


Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillary Clinton's.

Noted Bernie Sanders supporter Susan Sarandon had this to say about the prospect of a Donald J. Trump presidency:

https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/714612094843404288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Let me tell you a bit about revolution.

As anyone who reads my profile on Twitter knows, I'm a son of Cuban emigres.

Both my mother and father were sick of the Batista dictatorship. My mother was sanguine about the possibility of a Castro takeover. My father was a bit more perspicacious.

The Revolution happened, and within a couple of years my lower middle class father had his barber shop expropriated by the Communists. Private enterprise was an enemy of the people.

My family escaped Cuba, but I have no doubt that the stress brought about by the loss of of his livelihood and fleeing to a new land led to his ill health later in his life.

I have pictures of my dad when he lived in Cuba. He was a big, strapping man, full of life and vigor. Within a year of arriving in New York City, he suffered a heart attack and stroke. I never knew the man in those pictures.

People like Ms. Sarandon who speak cavalierly about "revolution" are the same type of people on the Right who speak about sending troops to every brush fire war across the globe. They have no knowledge on what they're speaking about, but they think their fantasies accord them a special insight.

Revolutions are brutish, violent things. Revolutions are more often like Petrograd 1918 than Berlin 1989. Unless you have no other choice, they're not things to be wished for.

The likes of Ms. Sarandon think that we're like Paris in 1789, pushed to the brink, ready for revolt.

We're not. We're the richest country in the world. Aside from the screeching on the fringes, most people are content with their lives. And the idea that a country which can't muster above a 40% turnout in off-year elections would be ready to take to the streets to overthrow a Trump presidency is laughable in the extreme.

If those of us on the left were more concerned with voting in every election rather than engaging in revolutionary fantasies, we wouldn't be in the current parlous state. People like Ms. Sarandon prattle on about revolution; it won't be their bodies on the front line.

Voting for Donald J. Trump, or not voting out of pique, will not engender the Revolution. It will merely be a replay of Ms. Sarandon's most famous movie, where she drives a car off the cliff. It's a fantasy, from which she won't suffer consequences. The rest of us will rue our lot.
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On revolutionary fantasies (Original Post) MrWendel Mar 2016 OP
Susan Sarandon probably has an IQ of an olive pit n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #1
HEY! MrWendel Mar 2016 #2
And about as popular as a head of lettuce. leftofcool Mar 2016 #4
Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillar Her Sister Mar 2016 #3
But Edwards was cute! 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #6
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #5
I lost respect for her when she said she was going on hunger strike... sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #7
... MrWendel Mar 2016 #8
Clinton and Edwards both voted yes on Iraq. Sarandon endorsed Edwards in 2008, if you recall. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #9
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
3. Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillar
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillary Clinton's.

Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillary Clinton's.

Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillary Clinton's.

Somehow Sarandon did not find John Edwards' support for the Iraq war so repugnant as she does Hillary Clinton's.



http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/28/on-revolutionary-fantasies


HRC GROUP IS AWESOME!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. +1 ...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016
The likes of Ms. Sarandon think that we're like Paris in 1789, pushed to the brink, ready for revolt.

We're not. We're the richest country in the world. Aside from the screeching on the fringes, most people are content with their lives. And the idea that a country which can't muster above a 40% turnout in off-year elections would be ready to take to the streets to overthrow a Trump presidency is laughable in the extreme.


The evidence is, also, found closer to home ... the results of this primary thus far.

sweetloukillbot

(11,004 posts)
7. I lost respect for her when she said she was going on hunger strike...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

To end the Iraq war.
There were prisoners of war in Ireland who were willing to die for their rights using that last resort. They became martyrs. There are people in Guantanamo on hunger strike who are being force fed.
There were prisoners in California who used it in recent years.

Sarandon is none the worse for wear, and most of all, she's not dead. I don't even recall seeing her emaciated body from starving herself.

Her statements cheapen the actions of those who were willing to die for their beliefs.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
9. Clinton and Edwards both voted yes on Iraq. Sarandon endorsed Edwards in 2008, if you recall.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

Seems kind of duplicitous to cite that as a reason not to vote for Clinton now, doesn't it?

Speaking on your French Revolution analogy, Sarandon also clearly believes she'll be on the right side of the guillotine, forgetting that the Reign of Terror started killing its own revolutionaries when there were no more aristocrats to behead. Good luck, multi-millionaire Susan Sarandon.

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