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A prediction model for NY (Original Post) TMontoya Apr 2016 OP
I just say thank you.. and Steady as she goes, Hillary~ Cha Apr 2016 #1
Read this is you've the time, Cha. It's good stuff. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #3
I started reading it in increments.. thank you for the suggestion.. it is really interesting! Cha Apr 2016 #5
I blasted it out to Twitter. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #6
9 more days! Cha Apr 2016 #7
I would HIGHLY recommend that people take the time to READ THIS CLOSELY. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #2
No problem! TMontoya Apr 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #8
That was the first thing I looked at! Lucinda Apr 2016 #21
NY is looking good for Hillary. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #9
Too generous to Bernie in Queens. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #10
Go team shenmue Apr 2016 #11
Looking at Erie and Monroe JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #12
Thank you for on-the-ground info! Haveadream Apr 2016 #20
Wall St enid602 Apr 2016 #13
Debate should do it! Her Sister Apr 2016 #14
Hill enid602 Apr 2016 #17
I see what you mean! Her Sister Apr 2016 #18
that's a great link! n/t DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #15
Should I TMontoya Apr 2016 #16
Overall, Treant Apr 2016 #19
Thanks for posting, very interesting article SharonClark Apr 2016 #22
I don't see anywhere a conversion for district results. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #23

Cha

(297,123 posts)
1. I just say thank you.. and Steady as she goes, Hillary~
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:26 AM
Apr 2016

The 19th is looming and that's when I'll know what exactly it will be.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
6. I blasted it out to Twitter.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:19 AM
Apr 2016

I may make a live spreadsheet -- if I've the time -- to track the results myself as they come in on the 19th. Naturally I'll be deciminating the results as they come in for my friends privately.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
2. I would HIGHLY recommend that people take the time to READ THIS CLOSELY.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:48 AM
Apr 2016

It will be crucial as we watch the returns come in on the 19th. If the analysis presented at the link is correct -- and from a first read it seems pretty solid to me -- then it's going to serve as an EXCELLENT GUIDE for how the race will proceed as the returns come in on the night of the 19th. This is the sort of hard analysis that I LOVE as a math nerd and programmer. GOOOOOOOOOOD STUFF!


Thank you, TMontoya for sharing. Thank you so much!


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Response to TMontoya (Original post)

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
21. That was the first thing I looked at!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

It will be interesting to see how they do in NY, but I'm cautious.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
10. Too generous to Bernie in Queens.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:11 AM
Apr 2016

Queens will be a 35% margin for Hillary.

And I think Hillary wins Manhattan.

I completely agree with the Brooklyn/Kings County numbers.

The Staten Island numbers are too generous to Sanders.

The Bronx numbers might be a tad high for Hillary but you never know.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
12. Looking at Erie and Monroe
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:16 AM
Apr 2016

Monroe I lived in for 30 years before moving to NJ -

The demographics themselves as well as the business reminds me a lot of Seattle however and thus I do believe this county will be hotly contests. Ideologically it is hard to place people especially those who are on opposite sides of the country since everyday life is so much different. If Seattle was any indication however this will be one of the better large counties for Sanders if he is able to channel the millennial, tech savvy voter bloc. The model is definitely kind to Clinton given the demographics and polling numbers, but they were also kind to her in Seattle. Watch this county closely when returns start to come in as it will tell us a lot about the young, tech savvy millennial vote and if they are turning out in the massive numbers they need to propel Sanders to a state wide victory.


It's not "upstate" - it's "West". Upstate is what people back home refer to as the Mountains or the Southern Tier . . .

We used to say "We are different out West."

There is heavy interaction with every day Canadians in Monroe, Erie, and Niagara County (just over two bridges from Erie). The Gen Xers are also Tech Saavy - many cut their teeth in the business world on the tech bubble and telecom alley. Their parents lost manufacturing jobs at Kodak, Xerox, B &L, etc etc. Those who stayed - have the example of Senator Clinton working with Louise Slaughter to keep the city alive.

This is the "Great Lakes" not NYC - but Detroit and Rochester could not be more different. Ditto Buffalo where it's not uncommon for Sunday dinner with family requires a border crossing.

IE these people are not isolated from rest of world.

Both go Clinton.

I canvassed for her in those three counties and even the Indie Republicans were for her in 2000. It's too late for those people to register as Democratic - but perhaps some Pataki Republicans that worked with my dad to get Obama elected didn't change their affiliation. My father was a precinct captain for Obama.

Just a little insight from someone from a local political household with parents who ran and won locally in a town/community in Monroe that was lavender - as Liberals.

Those counties on the 19th are going for Clinton. It's just a matter of how a margin she wins by. They won't want their financial come back put at risk. It relies heavily on global trade.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
20. Thank you for on-the-ground info!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:53 PM
Apr 2016

It is fascinating to find out about the demographics and political leanings of different regions even within a state. Many states in the northeast are incredibly diverse; NY being a very notable example. Great insights, thank you for that and for your family's support of Dems!





enid602

(8,610 posts)
13. Wall St
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:33 AM
Apr 2016

The author says regarding New York County (Manhattan): "There are some major issues that suggest Sanders will struggle to reach this benchmark. The main one is the message of his campaign and his distaste for Wall Street. This is after all the home of Wall Street and a lot of the people here make their living in an industry that he openly objects. " I think this will apply to all the Acela Corridor States; Hill needs to find a way to subtly and gingerly remind people of Sander's 'anti Wall St/business model for Wall St is greed' message.

enid602

(8,610 posts)
17. Hill
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

I think Bernie will play down that part of his message as he enters the New York market. Hill needs to remind the debate viewers of his historical stance with regard to Wall Street.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
19. Overall,
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

it feels a bit rosy and I do expect the race to tighten a bit--to around +10.

We should remember that I'm an eternal cynic because I like being pleasantly surprised. I had Clinton losing Wyoming 84-16, just passing the threshold of viability. I was ecstatic to be roundly wrong on that!

LiberalFighter

(50,862 posts)
23. I don't see anywhere a conversion for district results.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

The average congressional district size is about 710,000. Some of the counties will include more than one congressional district while there will be multiple counties in congressional districts for some.

163 delegates are awarded based on results in 27 districts. 84 delegates are awarded based on the results for the whole state.

At the very least it would be more helpful to know what districts might be in a county.

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