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HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:10 PM Apr 2016

Does Bernie have the temperament to be President?

Nope.

But that's not my opinion alone. Here, from an October 2015 article by Mickey Hirten, a former editor of the Burlington Free Press:

Considering that the Free Press' editorial positions were very liberal, reflecting the nature of a very liberal Vermont community, one might think that meetings with Sanders were cordial, even celebratory.

They weren't. Sanders was always full of himself: pious, self-righteous and utterly humorless. Burdened by the cross of his socialist crusade, he was a scold whose counter-culture moralizing appealed to the state's liberal sensibilities as well as its conservatives, who embraced his gun ownership stance, his defense of individual rights, an antipathy toward big corporations and, generally speaking, his stick-it-to-them approach to politics.


(Snip)

I'm not alone in my opinions about Sanders. Chris Graf, long-time Associated Press bureau chief in Vermont, in an article published Sept. 30 in Theweek.com, had this to say about the senator.

“Bernie has no social skills, no sense of humor, and he's quick to boil over. He's the most unpolitical person in politics I've ever come across,” Graf said. Others who have covered Sanders agree.


Comments by pro-Sanders supporters argue that was over twenty years ago, he's mellowed since then. I would put forth that "mellow" is not a word anyone would use to describe candidate Bernie Sanders.


http://lansingcitypulse.com/article-12189-the-trouble-with-bernie.html

((With thanks to littlegirlblue over at TPM for posting the link initially ))
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Does Bernie have the temperament to be President? (Original Post) HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 OP
Sanders, party of one. IamMab Apr 2016 #1
Agreed HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #3
Let's ask his colleagues 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #2
Oooh, good analogy HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #4
Right ~a person not seemingly highly recommended Her Sister Apr 2016 #5
Clearly he has no sense of humor! He can't even deliver his Hillary jokes in a humorous way. anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #6
And two dispositions: HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #7
He's a control freak who doesn't know how to delegate properly. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #8
I was really surprised by that until I started digging into his record Lucinda Apr 2016 #10
Not remotely. Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
Almost goes without saying... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #11
Yep. It isn't at all debatable for me. But at the same time, Lucinda Apr 2016 #12
I know... HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #13
Ha! Lucinda Apr 2016 #14
The first time the media said something negative he would demand apologies liberal N proud Apr 2016 #15
Yeah, foreign policy...THAT he'd delegate HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #16
From my research years ago into aging, one simply becomes more like the person they were, Native Apr 2016 #17
Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #18
No way! SharonClark Apr 2016 #19
Sanders has not been effective in the Senate due to his personality Gothmog Apr 2016 #20
This seems to be a consensus HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #22
Call it like it is Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #25
I think he adds "democratic" to "socialist" HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #26
What most people don't know is, Democratic Socialist IS Socialist. Period. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #30
He's trying to sugarcoat his true identity Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #31
And I can totally picture the run of the mill tea partier HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #33
they're probably the same people Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #34
Absolutely not! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #21
So I'll mark you as 'undecided' then? HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #23
Ha! :-D NurseJackie Apr 2016 #24
This is exactly how I would size him up. Couldn't have said it better. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #27
Well kudos go to littlegirlblue over at TPM HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #28
"Does Bernie have the temperament to be president?" In one word? BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #32
 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
1. Sanders, party of one.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016
My suspicion was that he resented others for assuming his mantle of progressive leadership and wouldn't acknowledge them.

This would not surprise me at all.
 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
3. Agreed
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

So many of the characteristics attributed to the Bernie Sandrs of 1990 are evident in today's
Presidential candidate.

I don't think he's up to the job. I really don't.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
2. Let's ask his colleagues
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

If you were looking for a doctor or a lawyer or a guy to fix your roof, and you asked dozens of his colleagues if they would recommend him, and not a single one would, would you hire him?

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
4. Oooh, good analogy
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

True and you've reminded us once again of the HUUUGE lack of endorsements from his colleagues Is it: a silent comment on his capacity to be president OR the vast majority of the elected officials who've worked with him before are corrupt.

Not tough to read between those line.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. Right ~a person not seemingly highly recommended
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

by many of his/her previous employers, employees, colleagues...

You call them but they have nothing to say or don't want to say b/c they got little positive to share. They say "Yes I worked with him, He was always on time!" and that's about it!

Kinda makes your radar go up ~ start buzzing a little...

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
6. Clearly he has no sense of humor! He can't even deliver his Hillary jokes in a humorous way.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

And he has just two volumes, loud and louder.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
8. He's a control freak who doesn't know how to delegate properly.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

His campaign is run so badly, in terms of organizing/winning is so bad I question his judgement in choosing personnel.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
10. I was really surprised by that until I started digging into his record
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016

Less co-sponsorship on his bills than anyone else you would remotely consider a congressional leader
Few bi-partisan sponsored legislation, and none last year at all.
And those mayoral speeches!

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
11. Almost goes without saying...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

and I have no trouble taking "The Pledge". I absolutely will show up and vote for him if Hillary doesn't win the nomination.

ANY democrat is light years better than a republican at the helm.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
12. Yep. It isn't at all debatable for me. But at the same time,
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

I say that while really damn sure I won't ever have to!

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
13. I know...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

...I always leave off the second line of "The Pledge" which is:

" but please, please, please God, don't make me hafta do it...uuuuuuh"

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
15. The first time the media said something negative he would demand apologies
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

Not to mention all those foreign policy tasks he isn't prepared for.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
16. Yeah, foreign policy...THAT he'd delegate
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:48 PM
Apr 2016

along with the task of just HOW to break up the banks. You get people to figure that out, he said.

Native

(5,936 posts)
17. From my research years ago into aging, one simply becomes more like the person they were,
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

not less, as they age. I doubt seriously if he's mellowed with regard to his basic character traits. Then again, they have pills for everything now.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:58 PM
Apr 2016

Just confirms every gut feeling I've had about the guy. Totally and utterly unfit.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
22. This seems to be a consensus
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:38 AM
Apr 2016

Certainly demonstrated by his dearth of endorsements. Unless you believe the spin that EVERYONE who doesn't share his socialist vision, pardon, his "democratic socialist" vision is corrupt and/or evil.

What I find particularly galling about the man is this sense that he invented empathy.

Like NO ONE on the established Democratic side has been aware of climate change or social injustice or the cost of things until he spoke of them. Galling!

And what some would call: "the establishment"
I call: "people-actively-engaged-in-fighting-for-democratic principles-and-goals-for-longer-than-a-presidential-election-cycle"

I know, it's too long to fit on a hat but dammit, it's true!

Like we've all been sitting around doing nothing to fix what republicans have inflicted.

(Long rant, I'm having a tough morning...)

Peace!

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
25. Call it like it is
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:56 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie is a SOCIALIST! He does t give a damn about the Democratic Party, he'll, I'd say he's trying to destroy it from the inside and have a revolution which would be all about him and him alone .

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
26. I think he adds "democratic" to "socialist"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

To make it more palpable to the masses. Error in judgement if you ask me.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
30. What most people don't know is, Democratic Socialist IS Socialist. Period.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders has said, continuously for many years prior to running under the Democratic Party banner "for media exposure" (and illegal access to data files):

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
31. He's trying to sugarcoat his true identity
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:31 PM
Apr 2016

By slapping Democratic in front of Socialist, he wants to make it seem like he's part of the DNC when he's not .

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
33. And I can totally picture the run of the mill tea partier
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:50 PM
Apr 2016

Understanding the difference.

Particularly after the Koch brothers millions have been spent explaining the nuanced difference.




(I read today that the K bros have got $900 million earmarked to take aim at dems! Daunting)

Fla Dem

(23,586 posts)
27. This is exactly how I would size him up. Couldn't have said it better.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016
Sanders was always full of himself: pious, self-righteous and utterly humorless. Burdened by the cross of his socialist crusade, he was a scold whose counter-culture moralizing appealed to the state's liberal sensibilities as well as its conservatives, who embraced his gun ownership stance, his defense of individual rights, an antipathy toward big corporations and, generally speaking, his stick-it-to-them approach to politics.


Thanks for finding that article.

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
28. Well kudos go to littlegirlblue over at TPM
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

For posting the link but I knew it would be a welcome addition to the conversation here at DU.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. "Does Bernie have the temperament to be president?" In one word?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

[center] [font color="red" size="12"]NO! [/font][/center]

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