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COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:50 PM Apr 2016

OMFG, Rachel on now, giddy

as a schoolgirl because 17,000 people have said on Facebook that they're going to show up for Bernie's rally at Washington Sq, in New York City tomorrow. To quote Rachel "Something's up - watch this space". She did feel compelled however to at least admit that when Obaman in 2008 he rallied 24,000 at the same place - and then proceeded to lose the NYState Primary. As she grudgingly had to recognize, "rallys aren't votes".

Apparently he MSM (and MSNBC in particular) feels that they have to keep pushing "this is a horserace", come hell or high water until they've squeezed the last possible viewer out of the programming, facts be damned. I for one will be thrilled when April 19 comes and goes and even the most diehard Bernie fan will have to recognize that Hillary will be our candidate for President.

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OMFG, Rachel on now, giddy (Original Post) COLGATE4 Apr 2016 OP
Until they've squeezed the last advertising dollar out. Kber Apr 2016 #1
Yep SharonClark Apr 2016 #2
Yep. Keep the public in a state of anticipation, even COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #3
Bingo workinclasszero Apr 2016 #34
What surrounds Washington Square, besides The Village? Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #4
Free tuition at NYU liberal N proud Apr 2016 #5
Free? I wonder how long the waiting list will be.... 10 years. Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #7
You hit the nail on the head. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #8
Good one! :-D NurseJackie Apr 2016 #31
No doubt workinclasszero Apr 2016 #35
Private romana Apr 2016 #9
Does he actually have a plan? liberal N proud Apr 2016 #10
Yep, it's private... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #12
What plan? DawgHouse Apr 2016 #32
Yep. Maybe there's free pizza, too. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #6
I only 1/2 way agree with you. :) Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #11
Yes, I agree, but keep in mind that many of the older ones have more on their plates Iliyah Apr 2016 #13
Right!!!! Absolutely! Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #14
and those of us past 50 "go" too - but in a different way. :-) Can't attend big rallies with spooky3 Apr 2016 #17
LMAO!!!!! Thanks :) Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #18
No, I don't belittle them. But I also don't take the hyper COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #22
Plus The New School up the block and Columbia and Barnard are... Walk away Apr 2016 #26
I forgot... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #29
I believe I've linked to this before about 'does rally size matter.' Nutshell, no. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #15
I'd rather have several million New Yorkers reading my NY Daily News endorsement than... Walk away Apr 2016 #27
Absolutely correct! nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #33
I wish I could agree with you on your last sentence, but I think the diehards will soldier on. spooky3 Apr 2016 #16
I'm afraid you're right. That was just COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #19
Yes, they'll soldier on. Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #20
Today has been a particularly hard push for Sanders...which seems strange anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #21
The only thing that occurs to me is that they have their COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #30
For me I didn't hear Rachel announce it grudgingly. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #23
I hear Rachel as a Hillary supporter... Skid Rogue Apr 2016 #24
Same here. She made very good comparisons. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #28
Thank you for that, LiberalFighter~ Cha Apr 2016 #25

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
3. Yep. Keep the public in a state of anticipation, even
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:57 PM
Apr 2016

when there's not really much to anticipate.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
4. What surrounds Washington Square, besides The Village?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:01 PM
Apr 2016

Answer: New York University, also known as NYU.

(edited to add) Enrollment = 57,245

romana

(765 posts)
9. Private
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:11 PM
Apr 2016

Isn't NYU a private non-profit institution? I thought Sanders' plan just covered public colleges and universities.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
11. I only 1/2 way agree with you. :)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

My pet theory is, young people are hyper-social creatures. I certainly was at that age.

A caucus, a rally, a march, Facebook, Twitter... those 20 somethings show-up. It's a social event. "Let's all get together and go to the ____!!!!!!" I don't belittle millennials for that attitude. Maybe we should be a bit more like them. It's just a different mind set.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Yes, I agree, but keep in mind that many of the older ones have more on their plates
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:31 PM
Apr 2016

such as providing for their families and supporting their love ones in many situations, like I do and I'm 33 years old. As to supporting my candidate HRC, I'm gun ho but show it differently.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
14. Right!!!! Absolutely!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

That's the backside of my point. My partner and I are in our 50s, so I understand where you're coming from.

I work with a truck load of 20 somethings. I honestly remember being like them. They "go" at the drop of a hat. That doesn't mean they vote.

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
17. and those of us past 50 "go" too - but in a different way. :-) Can't attend big rallies with
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016

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insufficient "comfort stations."

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
22. No, I don't belittle them. But I also don't take the hyper
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016

participation too seriously, either. Social events are social events and, with NYU all around Washington Square it should be a piece of cake for him to draw a respectable crowd. Whetoher that translates into actual voters is a separate question.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
26. Plus The New School up the block and Columbia and Barnard are...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:09 AM
Apr 2016

a 20 minute subway ride away and Brooklyn schools even closer.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
29. I forgot...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

New School's there. Nice. Thanks.

It's been a few years. Although, one of by best friends graduated from New School.

Damn, what an amazing city. I so freaking proud of NY. Heart of the Empire. (I'm not using the word "Empire" as a compliment, just a statement of fact.... or a state of the mind.)

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
15. I believe I've linked to this before about 'does rally size matter.' Nutshell, no.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016
Beware the crowdsmanship: Does the size of political rallies really mean much?

By Robert Mann

"...I have bad news for Sanders, Trump, their supporters and some in the news media fixated on the numbers at candidates’ rallies: The size of rallies has long been a flawed measure of a campaign’s vitality...."

https://bobmannblog.com/2015/07/20/beware-the-crowdsmanship-does-the-size-of-political-rallies-really-mean-much/

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
27. I'd rather have several million New Yorkers reading my NY Daily News endorsement than...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

a couple of thousand students (most of whom are not NY residents) showing up at a rally.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
19. I'm afraid you're right. That was just
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:44 PM
Apr 2016

a moment of wishful thinking on my part. Never thought I'd be so sick of Primary season.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
20. Yes, they'll soldier on.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:46 PM
Apr 2016

Remember, "Democrats fall in love while Republicans fall in line?"

Personally, I don't fall in love with politicians. However, there's a lot of young voters who are about to have their hearts broken. Awwwww. I feel bad for them, but not bad enough to risk the Nation.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
21. Today has been a particularly hard push for Sanders...which seems strange
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

with all the polls coming out that showed Hillary leading.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
30. The only thing that occurs to me is that they have their
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

marching orders to "keep it a horserace" in order to get the max number of viewers. Otherwise it just doesn't make sense.

LiberalFighter

(50,794 posts)
23. For me I didn't hear Rachel announce it grudgingly.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

To me it was she was stating a fact. Possibly, trying not to dampen their feelings. It usually is also not a good idea to gloat in her position. And when I am using Facebook as myself or not in this group I don't gloat either.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
24. I hear Rachel as a Hillary supporter...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

That whole segment went...

Bernie has big crowds, so did Obama. Obama had the crowds, but Hillary carried the vote in NYC. Despite the crowds, Hillary won.

To me she's saying, "don't worry."

That's what I heard.

LiberalFighter

(50,794 posts)
28. Same here. She made very good comparisons.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

On the crowds it seemed they are getting smaller compared to what Bernie had in the past.

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