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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:44 AM Jun 2013

Ecuador renounces trade benefits from US Congress

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ecuador-renounces-trade-benefits-us-congress

QUITO, Ecuador (AP) — Ecuador said Thursday it is renouncing tariff benefits on hundreds of millions of dollars in trade that are up for renewal by the U.S. Congress.

The announcement by Communications Minister Fernando Alvarez comes at a moment when Ecuador faces U.S. pressure to avoid granting asylum to National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden. Alvarez told a news conference that the trade deal had become "a new instrument of blackmail.

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The program, initially meant to help Andean countries aiding in the fight against drugs, was facing an uphill fight for renewal. Alvarado did not explicitly mention a separate effort to win trade benefits under a presidential order.

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Ecuador has been lobbying for continuation of reduced tariffs on hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of trade in products such as cut flowers, artichokes and broccoli. Nearly half Ecuador's foreign trade depends on the U.S.

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railsback

(1,881 posts)
1. Talk about kicking yourself in the teeth
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:24 AM
Jun 2013

I could imagine the thousands who would lose out on a lucrative, beneficial trade deal, cheering Snowden's 'freedoms' as he walked down their streets. LoL. And its not like the surrounding countries can make up that deficit, or they would have already. None really need that stuff, nor would be willing to pay such good prices for it, duty free.

Its too psychotic to be true, and expect some kind of clarification in the really near future.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
2. well to be realistic it wasn't going to be renewed anyway
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:29 AM
Jun 2013

but the link on LBN is amusing since apparently some think that Ecuador really showed the US up by kicking themselves in the teeth.

Unless there is a huge new worldwide demand for flowers and fruit, jobs will be adversely impacted in Ecuador NOT the US.

The thing to watch is whether Ecuador will become a member of the Pacific Alliance trade pact.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
3. There really was no reason NOT to renew the ATPDEA
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jun 2013

until now. And wouldn't it be blazingly hypocritical to join the Pacific Alliance when Mexico, Chile, Colombia and Peru ALL have free trade agreements with the U.S.?

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
4. oh they want to for sure. ALBA certainly doesn't cut it
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jun 2013

US importers simply aren't going to bother with Ecuadorian products when the same products are available from free trade agreement countries.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
5. It doesn't make sense at all
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:56 AM
Jun 2013

Currently, those countries already signed up offer up the same stuff. Ecuador has a special deal where they don't have to directly compete with these other countries.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
6. actually, Colombia, Peru, and Chile have FTAs with the US that supercede the Andean Pact
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jun 2013

so Ecuador was on the same playing field as those countries at least for some products. Now they no longer have any trade benefits with the US puting them at a competitive disadvantage.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
8. but again, they weren't going to get a renewed trade agreement anyway
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jun 2013

and Snowden is just a political football. The Pacific Alliance trade pact is the new thing to watch.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
9. Ecuador isn't currently a member of the bloc
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jun 2013

- so I assume they would have to be voted in. But why would the other countries vote in one so deep in debt and has reneged on billions it owes to other countries?

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
10. no, they are not currently a member
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jun 2013

The pact is growing steam from the US to Australia even France. Paraguay is an observer. The central american countries want in too. I believe Ecuador is the only Pacific nation in the region to NOT have any type of status. I do not know how a country gets into the agreement. Not sure if its by unanimous consent so to speak. They want in though.

Bolivia and Venezuela don't want Ecuador to join.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
11. Its all an interesting read
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jun 2013

Apparently, Ecuador is also an 'observer', but not a member. A European Union style Latin America, which does require an application for membership. MERCOSUR wants Ecuador to join their bloc, but that isn't going to cut if for a country like Ecuador, especially when its neighbors are embracing global free trade and MERCOSUR wants it all to be regional.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
12. As someone pointed out in GD this probably means China stepped up to take up the slack
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jun 2013

Ecuador taking Snowden takes the heat off China for the fact they let him go, kind of. At least it will be resolved.

China will at a minimum be able to get good terms with Ecuador now they've lost their trade with the USA.

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