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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 11:51 AM Mar 2014

UN demands explinations for repression in Venezuela (Spanish)

http://www.laverdad.com/politica/47717-onu-exige-explicaciones-por-represion-en-venezuela.html

Human rights experts of the UN demanded that the Ven government explain the use of violence and imprisonment to repress the protests. (Unbelievable that so called progressives on DU support the repression occuring in Venezuela)



Expertos en derechos humanos de las Naciones Unidas exigieron explicaciones al gobierno venezolano acerca del empleo de la violencia y las cárceles en la represión a las protestas.

Seis expertos del Consejo de Derechos Humanos de la ONU, en carta al presidente Nicolás Maduro, pidieron la “inmediata clarificación de las denuncias de detenciones arbitrarias y empleo excesivo de la fuerza y la violencia contra manifestantes, periodistas y trabajadores de los medios de comunicación durante una ola reciente de protestas en el país''.

La declaración firmada por los relatores especiales Frank La Rue, Maina Kiai, Mads Andenas, Juan Méndez, Christof Heyns y Margaret Sekaggya dice que las denuncias deben ser “investigadas de manera urgente y exhaustiva''.

Más de una decena de personas han muerto en las protestas desde mediados de febrero contra el sucesor del difunto presidente Hugo Chávez, en medio de una crisis económica y política que ha llevado a la ciudadanía a las calles.

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UN demands explinations for repression in Venezuela (Spanish) (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 OP
They have made HUNDREDS of arrests, and the wounded--they are using rubber bullets and MADem Mar 2014 #1
I nave Cuban friends. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #2
I think Maduro (they call him Maburro, a take off of my donkey or manuro--shit) MADem Mar 2014 #3
It is time for us to get over the Cuba situation. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #4
I've been asking that question for years, now. MADem Mar 2014 #5

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. They have made HUNDREDS of arrests, and the wounded--they are using rubber bullets and
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:10 PM
Mar 2014

steel pellets, along with the bean bags. Oh, and they are using real guns with real bullets too--that's what the colectivos are packing.

I don't understand the attitude by some here, either. They need to hear what the students are asking for. The people here are all viewing this as a binary exercise, when the things that everyone agrees on have little -- if anything -- to do with "politics" or "ideology."

They want the money to be worth something. They want to be able to go to the state run store and buy some state manufactured toilet paper (readily available, oddly enough, in neighboring countries' markets--what's up with that? They didn't even change the brand name), they want food on the shelves in the supermarkets, they don't want rationing and waiting in line for hours, and speaking of hours, they don't want murders by the hour, either...but that's what they are getting. An end to fear and scarcity, a bit of safety, security and economic common sense--that's what they want.

I heard yesterday that the death toll was at 18. Not sure if that's accurate or not.

 

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)
2. I nave Cuban friends.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:34 PM
Mar 2014

Their parents and or Grandparents came from Cuba.
They tell me that Ven is turning into something worse than Cuba right before our eyes.
They should know they watched Cuba change.
I do know that other elected national leaders have turned to totalitarian dictatorships in the past, it has happened many times. Some transitioned to strict communism or fascism, others to autocratic dictatorship. A few to strict Islamic theocracies.
I'm honestly wondering where this elected president is going by using force, fear, Death, financial manipulation with currency manipulation that has caused massive inflation. Then there is the control of necessary hygiene products and food. It is available in the areas that support him and scarce in areas that do not.
Everyday he has a different monster to blame, first his neighbors, then the US, now Panama and I'm sure there will be more. It appears he has going over the edge I just do not know what edge he is headed for.
Maybe we need to stop and take a step back and see exactly what is happening and not just listen to all the noise both sides are making.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. I think Maduro (they call him Maburro, a take off of my donkey or manuro--shit)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:08 PM
Mar 2014

has lost it. He's just a pisspoor manager and his cronies have taken advantage and robbed the place blind. He's also...what's the word? Stupid. And no one corrects him, because he's the "jefe" and he has that Big Fat Martinet attitude and he doesn't like to take advice.

I thought that any "coup" would come from the left--that he'd step down, the VP Rangel would step up, and maybe Cabello would angle for the job, but now I am wondering. The violence and the arrests, to say nothing of the injuries and deaths, are working against the ruling faction. The poor are coming from the slums to stand with those students; they are sick of this shit, too.

Speaking of Cuba, the Cuban flag fell to the ground yesterday during the arrival ceremonies for Raul. I'm sure "America" or "the CIA" or "Panama" was to blame, too...or maybe an underpaid Army private, being bullied, took a razor to the line holding the flag...?

Worst band EVER, too!!! Could this be a harbinger? Will Cuba's control over VZ fall, as well?

 

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)
4. It is time for us to get over the Cuba situation.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:14 PM
Mar 2014

Not sure just how it should come about but it needs to be done now. We have great relations with Vietnam why are we still playing games with Cuba?
Not all of it or maybe not even most of it is on us but we need to figure it out and normalize relations with Cuba.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. I've been asking that question for years, now.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014

I think the game changes when Fidel dies. He did something that was "unforgiven," I think.

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