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The US Covert War on Venezuela in 2015 Diary: Jan 15-18
By Arturo Rosales reflects from Caracas
Monday, Jan 19, 2015
January 15 2015 Arturo Rosales
You want a Sunday chicken dinner and you cannot find the chicken in Venezuela.
This is because unscrupulous distributors are hoarding the birds for political reasons or to supply restaurants that specialize in roasted chickens. There are many of these restaurants in Venezuela, and all appear to be able to offer their juicy wares to the hungry consumer.
Today, January 15 2015, the Venezuelan Authorities detected a distributor hoarding nearly 27,000 tons of chicken, exclusively to be sold at usurious process to restaurants in the Andean city of Mérida. This is in complete violation of the law to supply the public before restaurants when it comes down to basic foodstuffs.
The 26.6 tons of chicken will be sold at regulated process to the public in Mérida via Mercal and PDVAL.
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Hoarded cooking oil
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Also today, at the Excelsior Gama super market in Los Palos Grandes East Caracas, a huge line formed inside as everyone scrambled for bath soap and corn flour. The limit was 6 kilos of corn flour per person and many people bought 10 bars of soap, which should last them for months. The psychological war in the media has sparked panic buying that deprives others of basic products and leads to reselling at speculative prices and actual hoarding in peoples homes. The only good side to this is that people have money in their pockets to spend but it is for this reason that one can see the same people day after day in line buying products they intend to resell at a profit.
More:
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_69080.shtml
polly7
(20,582 posts)It makes me so damn sick thinking what they've done, and are doing to a country whose people dared to choose a new way forward, one that did NOT include anyone returning them back to the suffering of their decades of horror.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)BTW, are we now to be treated to a daily whine about the disasters the Chavistas have wrought on the Venezuelan economy and people?
Judi Lynn
(160,520 posts)Anyone relying on the word of trolls has bigger problems than whether he/she had to be told what's involved repeatedly.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)and the OP will not even answer basic questions. Seems like another weird corner of this website
polly7
(20,582 posts)faux ignorance Judi Lynn .......... or maybe it's real, but either way - who cares.
delrem
(9,688 posts)The Bolivarian revolution interferes with their right to oppress the people, to maximize their profits. They don't like that one bit,
On DU those folk also pretend to be "progressives".
A lovely bunch all around.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)and standing in line all day. What would they do with all that free time?
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Am I getting this right? Please explain.
polly7
(20,582 posts)It's very, very simple.
No explanations necessary if you bother to give them even a cursory glance.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)If the US can be blamed for the scruples of food distributors in Venezuela, I am sure you can easily explain that to me. Just a brief summary will do. Thank you, I look forward to your reply
polly7
(20,582 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,520 posts)It's not normal to expect people to spend their time learning the information you won't bother to learn for yourself, then trying to translate it to "stupid" so even you will get it.
polly7
(20,582 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)I would also hesitate to spell out my view, if it was that obviously whacked.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 27, 2015, 04:08 PM - Edit history (1)
'whacks' that show you have no interest whatsoever in learning anything, why would anyone bother when you can't even bring yourself to read articles??? Don't you have some 'Pootie-lover!' statement to make, or have you now converted to 'Chavez-lover!'. You're not fooling anyone, as isn't anyone else here playing STUPID.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)That's one of the most ridiculous arguments I've seen in a while--"it's not normal" to state your case? Gee it seems that is done all day on DU and it's pretty normal. You tell me to "learn for yourself" instead of just telling me what the deal is? What???
You seem to know all about this subject, so why can't you even say what's up? Especially if you (theoretically) want others to know what you're saying.
Or is this some kind of secret handshake thing? Members only.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)I just figured out why you're so upset tonight that you came here to start insulting people for no reason, and clicked on a post of yours to reply to. No worries. But it'll all be ok, you'll see. Watch out for Spain though. The dominoes are toppling - just not the ones you want to. Seems like they're patterning a lot of their social programs after Venezuela's and going to be concentrating on the well-being of the actual people who voted them in - I can see why this bothers some so much.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Are you accusing me of being the same poster as Judi Lynn? I should be so lucky as to know 1/10th of what she does about all of this (and thanks for the unintended compliment!).
Derailing any thread that DARES to tell the truth with your stupid, fucking junior-high remarks and clueless accusations ...... it would be pitiful if it weren't so obvious why you do it.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)where the author posts a fair amount of Venezuela's major problems is accurate but the reasons behind those problems is the Ven government, not the US.
Good night Jud... I mean Polly.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,520 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)But if they got a dime for every nasty insult and post purposefully derailing threads that scare the crap out of them, they'd be rich!
Judi Lynn
(160,520 posts)instead of Latin American fascists' progress in stealing back the people's countries.
Disruption is their only intention, trying to involve posters in trying to defend themselves, their information, their sources, so people will forget about the subject, and consider following up on it by doing research to find out more, on their own.
We happen to welcome, and encourage people who wonder if they've been told the truth about US/Latin American relations to PLEASE take the time to start reading any and all material on the subject, reading for real comprehension, looking through real history, until you start seeing what has been missing: the truth.
Anyone who sees through the propaganda will NEVER see things the same way again. That's guaranteed.
polly7
(20,582 posts)The amount of information in this forum on all of this is astounding. Reading even just a part of it will show exactly what is happening to any country in Latin America daring to decide it's own future.
Truth is a wonderful thing, and as hard as it may be to swallow (I particularly hate with a passion Canada's corruption with our mining interests that displace indigenous people and ruin their environments, even being part of causing their deaths when they fight it), they are showing the world that countries do not have to be ruled by oligarchs, their IMF puppets and practices that have caused such poverty, inequality and brutality they suffered for so many decades before rising up. That there are govt's trying so desperately to undermine their success ......... using food now as a weapon in Venezuela, among other things, really is horrible.
I've learned so much by reading your threads. You're correct ........ even a child could see beyond the propaganda if they were given the opportunity to see the hundreds of articles showing what's really happening.
I admire these people so much, and everywhere else that's fighting for the right to equality, empathy for their own citizens, social safety-nets, reducing illiteracy and poverty, and on and on. It's terrifying and shocking that the so-called democratic leaders of the world are trying so desperately to stop it all. But we've seen it all before, time after time, and the horrific effects.
Anyway .... THANK YOU for providing so much information .... like I said, the opportunity to learn here is fantastic, this forum is my go-to place for anything on Latin America.
Judi Lynn
(160,520 posts)hoping the great DU'ers I respect will see it, and think about it, and keep their ears open for future material. It takes a lot of pieces to start getting the picture sometimes, when our own corporate "news" makes it a life's calling to "mold public perception" instead of sharing the truth.
We all are learning together. We're growing inwardly. Nothing else like finding our way out of the planned information black-out.
Thank you, so much.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)of the US and the opposition funded by the US. The underlying reason for all of this is that the US wants Venezuela's oil, which it already gets, and second the economic success of Venezuela which is seen as a model for the region. I kid you not.
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_69015.shtml
2014 was also a year here in Venezuela that was scarred by actions of the political opposition, funded by Washington and supported by the Western media. Bereft of support by the majority of Venezuelans and unable to gain power through a peaceful electoral process, the opposition resorted to: sabotage of the infrastructure (e.g. attacks on the electrical grid); hoarding and dumping food and daily household products to keep them off the retail markets; manipulating food distribution to create the appearance of shortages; smuggling subsidized products across the border into Colombia for huge profits; attacks on the economy with speculation and an illegal black-market dollar system, driving up a manipulated rate of inflation with spiraling prices in retail markets; causing capital flight by abusing the governments system of making dollars available for imports and leisure traveling and the violence we saw for 3 months from February to April in the guarimbas in which more than 40 people were killed under the pretext of student protests. The greater violence in 2014 ended with the assassination of the foremost leader of Venezuelan youth, youngest member of congress, Robert Serra along with his spouse in their home on October 1, 2014.
The attacks on the Venezuelan economy are manifold. The attempt to destroy the national currency, the bolivar, began in earnest in October 2012 after the re-election of former President Hugo Chávez Frías. At that time, the bolivar was trading at 13.4 bolivars to the dollar. By means of speculation and the illegal black-market dollar, the official exchange rate for most items was forced to soar to 50:1 and the black market dollar rate is currently at about 200:1 and increasing from week to week. By all these means, high prices, making food and products unavailable, standing in long lines waiting to purchase anything from laundry detergent to corn meal, electrical outages, etc, Washington is bent on making life as miserable as possible for the people to turn them against the government. Moreover, the violence is meant to cause fear and a climate of insecurity among the people in a word, terrorism, laying blame on the government and to portray Venezuela in the media as one of the most dangerous countries on earth.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)I would hesitate to explain it also, if the premise was that ridiculous.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)All you seem to use as sources are unreliable propaganda-spewing sites. You haven't even bothered to visit the country you pretend to know so much about. And even then, you still refuse to give your own take, as you understand it, in this forum, NUMEROUS times. If anything, you and the rest of the Chavistas here are the ones lacking in credibility the most, citing sources that could be considered the left-wing versions of Fox News.
I think you and the other right-wing talking point parroters haven't fooled anyone here for like ............ ever.
Venezuela - a people who chose their own future and sit on some of the world's most valuable resources. Bugs the fuck out of you, doesn't it.
Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)And ignorant folks like you don't see it due to your ideological blindness. Please, I invite you yo visit my home country when you can and see for yourself how the majority of Venezuelans live. Then let me know if you think these last 15 years have improved things in general for Venezuelans. I also recommend you learn Spanish before you go. Maybe that should help you gain a better perspective.
polly7
(20,582 posts)a bit of history of the Venezuelan people's fight and how hated their success has been by those wishing them to fail so bad, such as yourself.
So, no thanks for the useless advice.
Response to polly7 (Reply #32)
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Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)I only want what's best for my country, and that's not gonna happen ever under the current regime which is only becoming more radicalized and has done a terrible job of managing the country's resources and potential to be the best country in all of Latin America. The only reason you support the regime is because they share your own extreme ideology and because they say they're anti-US (even though US has been and is their biggest oil client, and is the one most responsible for the country having any actual income to support the government programs.) If you can't see this, like I said, you can take a flight to Venezuela when you want and take a walk in one the barrios there and ask the people yourself how confident they feel about their future.
And again, stop pretending you know more about Venezuela than someone who's actually from there, especially when you've never even stepped foot in that country.
If your post doesn't make these cult-like posters feel just a little bit embarrassed, there's something (else) really really wrong with them.
As you probably know, there is a segment of supposedly progressive American society that is a bit...confused. This article doesn't mention Venezuela but otherwise it's on the same phenomenon, the "Old Left" that saw things (and still see things) in certain black-and-white terms:
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/26/strange_bedfellows_putin_the_chomskyite_left_and_the_ghosts_of_the_cold_war/
polly7
(20,582 posts)And for all the haters of any people anywhere who have chosen by democratic vote their own destiny ............ Maybe start a 1%'er, YAY austerity/IMF club where you can congratulate yourselves over coups, sneaky and disgusting as this one's been, brutal as in Ukraine ..... whatever you like. Greed and ownership of others' resources has never been my thing, but start your own group and really get your groove on!
polly7
(20,582 posts)Supporting people who don't want to live under the thumb of right-wing policies, the IMF and World Bank and their suicidal austerity programs requires being in a cult??? You really, really need to think outside your narrow little vision of the world - there are actually countries that don't need to be owned economically by the same right-wing nuts that have ruined so many others. I question those who actually support it so much though -------- what do you call your cult?? I'd say what I think it should be, but I'd be banned.