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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Sun May 24, 2015, 03:25 PM May 2015

Pope Francis told Obama that relations with Latin America go through Cuba

Pope Francis told Obama that relations with Latin America go through Cuba
Submitted by: Juana



Cardinal Jaime Ortega

Cuban Cardinal Jaime Ortega y Alamino visited the state of New York to receive a Honoris Causa degree granted by Fordham Jesuit University , on Saturday May 16. The day before the ceremony, the Cuban prelate was interviewed by journalist Charles Rose, in his TV show.

Ortega y Alamino referred to the intervention of Pope Francis in the restoration of relations between Cuba and the United States; the possibility of lifting the embargo and the role of Francis in the process of dialogue between Havana and Washington. He said the Pope is interested in creating a new relationship between the countries, to have a way to solve problems through words.

There were previous contacts that created the conditions for dialogue between Obama and the Pope about Cuba. Pope Francis told Ortega that when he met Obama he mentioned the Cuban issue and the US president explained the situation with Congress, the laws (of the embargo) that were adopted before Obama was born.

Then the Pope told Obama it was time to change and to think about the role of Cuba in Latin America. The policy of his government (and governments coming later ) over Latin America pass through relations with Cuba . And Obama, says the Cuban Cardinal, was impressed by that vision.

http://www.cubaheadlines.com/2015/05/19/p13/pope-francis-told-obama-that-relations-with-latin-america-go-through-cuba.html

(Short article, no more at link.)

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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
1. I greatly mistrust the USA with regards to its intentions for Cuba
Sun May 24, 2015, 07:59 PM
May 2015

and I hope that the Pope has not started something worse than what we had. A stalemate is so much less dangerous than an active overthrow.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
2. I agree with you. The US Gov't has a horrendous history with the other Latin American countries.
Sun May 24, 2015, 10:35 PM
May 2015

The only ones who have escaped its wrath are those whose leaders sold out the people long ago, like Colombia, Peru. As soon as the people elect a leftist president, they can kiss their asses goodbye until they finally gain enough power to stand against the multi-level war which will be coming at them relentlessly to destabilize, and destroy him/her any way possible without provoking the wrath of the rest of the world.

As EFerrari has mentioned before, the words of Profirio Díaz, "Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States!"

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
3. Puerto Rico, island of lost dreams: People are leaving the debt-hit territory in droves as Cuba rise
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:09 AM
May 2015
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/puerto-rico-island-of-lost-dreams-people-are-leaving-the-debthit-territory-in-droves-as-near-neighbour-cubas-star-rises-10271083.html

Puerto Rico is billions of dollars in debt and its people are leaving in droves. But America is turning its back on the territory, focusing instead on its near neighbour Cuba, whose electorate want closer ties. David Usborne reports from San Juan...

The posh boutiques that once lined cobbled Calle Fortaleza are gone now, replaced by T-shirt and souvenir shops grasping for dollars from passengers swarming down the gangways of the Carnival cruise ships that dock here most mornings. Bars advertise “happy hours” lasting from noon till night, while old men pushing tatty ice-cream carts go mostly unnoticed. Old San Juan, the colonial gem of Puerto Rico’s capital San Juan, is tired but clinging on. Elsewhere on the island, the story is graver. Exhausted by a recession that has lasted for most of the past eight years and by talk of a possible default on government debt, Puerto Ricans are leaving in droves. Many who stay are jobless; doctors who haven’t been paid in months are downing their stethoscopes.

The pain that is Puerto Rico’s – and could soon be Wall Street’s if the debt crisis isn’t resolved – is poignant. Some blame its step-child relationship with America, neither a fully-fledged US state nor an independent nation. It hardly helps that Washington barely seems to care while at the same time it is suddenly lavishing attention on Cuba, its near neighbour to the west. The island has lost 20 per cent of its jobs since 2006. The unemployment rate stands at over 13 per cent. It’s no wonder people want to get out. “People who graduate from the university go straight to the airport and never come back,” lamented Christopher Torres, 25, an activist studying computer engineering at the University of Puerto Rico, who recently led a student protest against proposed spending cuts. Some 144,000 Puerto Ricans decamped for the US last year and a higher number may depart in 2015. A White House official privately described it as the biggest population displacement ever seen outside of a war. Among those packing their bags are disenchanted doctors. Victor Ramos, the president of the Physicians and Surgeons Association, noted in an interview that there are now only two paediatric neurosurgeons left on the island and also only two paediatric cardiac specialists. Of those one is 90 years old. “Last year we calculate that 361 doctors left the island, that’s one per day. This year we expect 500 or more.”

While the rest of the region and the US bounce back, the economic picture here could barely be more scary. Because successive governors, from either of its two main parties, have for years papered over budget deficits by borrowing, Puerto Rico now lies $73bn (£47bn) in debt, compared with the $18bn owed by Detroit when it declared bankruptcy. Moreover, while US laws allowed Detroit to get out of its hole by declaring bankruptcy they forbid Puerto Rico from doing the same. The debt hole is worse than anyone is admitting. Beyond what it owes to bond investors, the government is also facing a $34bn gap in money that should have been paid into the public workers’ pension system. If you reckon that its obligations therefore exceed $100bn that then translates into a jaw-dropping $100,000 in debt for every working person on the island.


AMERICA HAS NO BUSINESS TRYING TO BE AN EMPIRE....IT HASN'T THE NOBLESSE OBLIGE TO PULL IT OFF.

AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE ITS RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING, ACTUALLY.

MORE BAD NEWS ABOUT PUERTO RICO AT LINK

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
4. "Been there, done that." Sad, isn't it? You're right. Their forefathers caved in already,
Mon May 25, 2015, 07:28 PM
May 2015

or took the bribes and sold out the people.

It was too easy. Like Batista, who did bidness with everyone, including the Mafia.

This is something our own blessed corporate media won't ever mention, right? They just don't want to spoil the party.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. Cuba has no real choice
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:11 AM
May 2015

with the impending loss of billions of annual subsidies from Venezuela, Cuba knows their economic survival depends on aligning their economy with America. I don't see an active overthrow - the Castro's will soon be dead. I suspect the US is banking on the next generation of Cuban leaders being more pragmatic and less ideological - think China as a possible model.

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